4 hours ago, vbazillio said:

Did the taxi clearance matched the real taxi layout of this airport

So far all taxiway routings have matched Foreflight airport diagrams.

5 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I use Foreflight as my EFB - all taxiway routings have matched Foreflight airport diagrams so far.

 

 

Yeah, Ive only just recently decided to give it a whirl for a month, but the taxi routing is *mostly* right.  And when they're not, I've asked for confirmation and they get it right the second time, even apologize!

 

Its pretty cool. 

6 minutes ago, JughedJones said:

And when they're not, I've asked for confirmation and they get it right the second time, even apologize!

 

 

The well-known "oh you're right, I'm sorry for the confusion" is a symbol of all this AI affirming something totally wrong, then say the opposite and apologize. At least with all the public LLM you have the "check for mistake" warning 😉

 

It happened a lot during the Beta, clearing to runway that doesn't exist and giving taxi route based on default MSFS 😉

 

49 minutes ago, vbazillio said:

 

The well-known "oh you're right, I'm sorry for the confusion" is a symbol of all this AI affirming something totally wrong, then say the opposite and apologize. At least with all the public LLM you have the "check for mistake" warning 😉

 

It happened a lot during the Beta, clearing to runway that doesn't exist and giving taxi route based on default MSFS 😉

 

 

 

Well... I choose to believe I'm helping it learn. hahahahaha

 

I'm enjoying the service so far, warts, niggles, and all. The dev Brian is insanely responsive. 

Edited March 8, 20242 yr by JughedJones

44 minutes ago, vbazillio said:

The well-known "oh you're right, I'm sorry for the confusion" is a symbol of all this AI affirming something totally wrong, then say the opposite and apologize

Yes, very human.  Just listen to thousands of ATC vids on Youtube to hear ATC or pilots getting it wrong and apologizing.

24 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Yes, very human.  Just listen to thousands of ATC vids on Youtube to hear ATC or pilots getting it wrong and apologizing

Unfortunately, it doesn’t match my 900+ IRL VFR hours experience flying in France and US. Of course, errors are human.But not the way it’s happened with this AI LLM playing ATC: stating totally non-sense clearance like providing a routing with taxiway names that don’t exist on their field, then recognizing « oh, you’re right I apologize& then shooting another clearance guess from whatever sources to make it credible… but no 🙂 Don’t misunderstand, I love these tech, I test it, I love ATC phraseology and it should be way better in MSFS. There are some immersion killing features for now. I can’t wait for the next competitor in this area.

Edited March 8, 20242 yr by vbazillio

Maybe I have been lucky. Have had no taxi issues at all so far. Mostly positive.

Most of my flying out of California however.

Even IFR is getting way better.

Only loading up for a month or two. Really going to miss it.

 

For around $30 a month  you cold have ATC from real controllers. https://www.pilotedge.net/

I don’t pay for using ATC IRL I don’t think should pay for virtual one . lol
The thing is ATC is not just human like sounding voice -  it’s specific to aviation talking culture . When I learnt to fly, as foreigner, I struggled a lot with understanding English speaking  ATC. But over the years I found many native English speaking student struggle as well . Real life ATC always have it own specific and right now I don’t see how generic  AI could ace it

51 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

For around $30 a month  you cold have ATC from real controllers. https://www.pilotedge.net/

Agreed, PilotEdge is superb, but limited coverage.

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

For around $30 a month  you cold have ATC from real controllers. https://www.pilotedge.net/

Actually, using this before going to Pilot Edge.

Very intimating Pilot Edge, but seeing as I do almost all of my VFR flying in CA it only make sense.

 

 

2 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

For around $30 a month  you cold have ATC from real controllers. https://www.pilotedge.net/

 

 

Yeah...  It's true. They're great, but the anxiety I have of getting everything perfect limits me from getting as much as I'd like out of it. 

I know I'm not gonna get fired or anything, but man I'm on edge when I think about flying when it's real interactions with trained people.  

The idea of non judgemental AI, if and when the tech fills out, makes it so I get just the right amount of nervous about getting things right. 

 

Been trying SAI last couple of weeks, in all kinds of scenarios, also getting feedback from Brian (CEO). He wasn't very happy with what I had to say, but I'm not a sales representative...

https://www.icefireair.com/sayintentions-ai-analysis-and-review/

Thanks for taking time to do the article. It's really helpful. I haven't simmed with ATC for maybe 15 years but I'm curious again recently. The Generative AI It's such a fluid space at the moment. I'm just a A to B airline flyer so I'm hoping this kind of IFR structure is where it excels.

Having a ball currently with the 24hr demo on short Fenix flights. I am basically thrilled at how much fun SI is. It even seems to integrate flawlessly with FS2Crew. Really amazing all round. I would pay the full yearly sub on this and likely will do so.