SayIntentions has a 24 hour free trial it starts counting down on the first flight.

Tried it out, it's neat, but not for me. Especially without the option of a free voice like beyondATC

Their site says the free trial will also reset every few months whenever there's major updates so you can test it again.

Edited March 6, 20242 yr by Tuskin38

It's basically a VFR only. IFR doesn't work, also there is a 1 minute delay after each transmission, I will not pay for this. Instead of releasing raw alpha version with half of things not working, just finish your product and then sell it.

20 minutes ago, camrad1983 said:

It's basically a VFR only. IFR doesn't work, also there is a 1 minute delay after each transmission, I will not pay for this. Instead of releasing raw alpha version with half of things not working, just finish your product and then sell it.

There is a delay but nowhere near 1 minute.  And IFR does work.  It’s new and not bug free.  I just tried it all myself this weekend and signed up.  For the flaws it has which are being tweaked at an amazing pace it’s miles better than the default ATC and feels like you’re talking to a human on VATSIM or on a radio.  I’m impressed.  Your post sounds very much like exaggerating flaws to put down the product.  I can’t wait to try BATC when it comes out as well and make a decision what to stick with.  It might be that I wait on BATC to mature a little bit because right now SI has both VFR and IFR and it seems BATC is going to be IFR only at release.

5 hours ago, camrad1983 said:

It's basically a VFR only. IFR doesn't work, also there is a 1 minute delay after each transmission, I will not pay for this. Instead of releasing raw alpha version with half of things not working, just finish your product and then sell it.

I just made a perfect EDDH EDDL run with full IFR including SID/STAR, only thing that is missing are the taxiways. So with all respect - your statement is wrong.

8 hours ago, camrad1983 said:

It's basically a VFR only. IFR doesn't work, also there is a 1 minute delay after each transmission, I will not pay for this. Instead of releasing raw alpha version with half of things not working, just finish your product and then sell it.

The only part of that statement that is true is that this is still a beta version. They even call it a Beta version.

VFR works very well. IFR is making good progress and the delay is no worse then real ATC and way under 15 seconds when its not not right away.

Its already very impressive compared to what we have lived with for the last 25 years.

I was very impressed.

Expensive. You bet. too expensive for me.

Does not make it a bad product, just one that will be out of reach monetarily for most people, myself included.

I agree, lots of money for a half baked product. No different then most add-ons these days sadly.

and then there is the very big issue of it only considering your plane. That will turn a lot of people off.

I wonder if Microsoft could achieve  this in house without breaking the bank.

Getting a flat rate for the voices someway. Wonder if this will be part of 2024.

 

 

Edited March 6, 20242 yr by Ron Lefebvre

8 hours ago, thetford569 said:

feels like you’re talking to a human on VATSIM or on a radio

Admittedly I'm a relative newcomer to flight sim so forgive me if I sound naive but what is the advantage of (expensive) software like this when you can actually talk to a real human on Vatsim and it's infinitely more immersive?

1 minute ago, El Diablito said:

Admittedly I'm a relative newcomer to flight sim so forgive me if I sound naive but what is the advantage of (expensive) software like this when you can actually talk to a real human on Vatsim and it's infinitely more immersive?

Does that really require an explanation, the difference between an online service with rules and regulations that can't be paused, where you have to engage with another human, and an offline ATC where you can take everything at your own pace, make the mistakes you want and in general just be way, way more relaxed?

7 minutes ago, El Diablito said:

Admittedly I'm a relative newcomer to flight sim so forgive me if I sound naive but what is the advantage of (expensive) software like this when you can actually talk to a real human on Vatsim and it's infinitely more immersive?

Coverage:), especially for VFR, because its mostly big aiports that have coverage, smaller GA airports is just unicom…. And not all of us is confident enough too use vatsim:).

And this software even does VFR better.. e.g FSS wich isnt even available on vatsim.

Edited March 6, 20242 yr by Kaboki

1 hour ago, El Diablito said:

Admittedly I'm a relative newcomer to flight sim so forgive me if I sound naive but what is the advantage of (expensive) software like this when you can actually talk to a real human on Vatsim and it's infinitely more immersive?

My issues with VATSIM:

1. The VATSIM ATC controller can log off anytime they want, they are not obligated to stay on. When I was on VATSIM my first time, I had spawned in, was preparing a flight and asked for preliminary instructions from the VATSIM controller. Before I was able to even start taxiing to the runway though, the VATSIM controller logged off.

2. You have to do a lot of preparation before you go on VATSIM. So you really have to study the SID and STARs properly, the taxiway and layout of the airport, etc, before you go on. I suppose this is just like real life too so this part of VATSIM makes it realistic. The reason is, if you go in unprepared, the ATC controller, being a human being, may not be happy with you, if you come in unprepared. You can't go in half prepared. But for an ATC program like SayIntentions.AI/BeyondATC, I can go in unprepared, and learn on the fly.

3. Somewhat related to #2 above, I haven't been on VATSIM for a few years now.  I have forgotten some of the phraseology, and the NATO alphabet.  Something like SayIntentions.AI/BeyondATC is perfect for me, because I can gradually ease myself into ATC phraseology again.  It's kind of like an in between knowing nothing, and having to know everything for VATSIM. So I would love to just practice with SayIntentions.AI/BeyondATC, get good at the phraseology again, at my own pace, and then when I feel comfortable with my level of ATC phraseology, I can then try VATSIM again.

4. As someone already mentioned already, I can pause SayIntentions.AI/BeyondATC, wash my dishes or mow the lawn, and then come back and resume where I left off. You can't do that with VATSIM. If you are gone for even a few minutes I think, you need to log off and discontinue your flight (unless you get permission to pause your flight from the VATSIM controller).

There are so many benefits with something like SayIntentions.AI/BeyondATC for a VATSIM newbie like me.

Edited March 6, 20242 yr by abrams_tank

On 12/16/2023 at 10:59 AM, Gazzareth said:

100% not a product for me then, good to know...

$10 to $25 a month.... just wow...

$10 is just £7.80 in the UK, surely amazing value if the product takes a step forward in ATC realism.

On 12/31/2023 at 1:11 AM, JYW said:

But I'm not aiding someone else's easy residual income, by draining my hard earned funds.

How is this any different to buying an addon aircraft or scenery - you are aiding their income whatever you buy?

 

1 hour ago, El Diablito said:

but what is the advantage of (expensive) software like this when you can actually talk to a real human on Vatsim and it's infinitely more immersive?

This is quite an interesting question.

From my own personal perspective I much prefer the AI ATC. I fly professionally so am very used to ATC transmissions, and even before flying I held a RT licence in the U.K. as when I was 18 I worked in the tower at a small airfield doing the air/ground radio service.

However, for some strange reason I find vatsim somewhat intimidating and don’t like it , I’ve only used it on one occasion on my own sim, and also used it when flying a 747 simulator as part of the world flight event, but it just feels a little strange to me.

Also, and this happens in the real world when I’ve hired a GA aircraft, as I’ve been flying for the same airline for almost 30 years, I start every transmission with my airline call sign by mistake , it’s a very hard habit to break, that would be sort of embarrassing with everyone listening in.

To be fair I also found talking to the say intentions AI a little strange to start with but am now quite used to it and I enjoy that you can exchange pleasantries when checking in or out of a frequency, like the real world. I also like I can make a nuisance of myself by practicing and declaring emergencies at my leisure without inconveniencing anyone else of having other people listen in.

I think there’s still a long way to go with these AI ATC programs , but I think they’ll get to where they need to be very rapidly indeed.

As I’ve mentioned before it’s nice to have the background chatter of ATC talking to other aircraft but you don’t really listen intently, you tune it all out just picking up on your own call sign, a bit like having a radio playing in the background while you do the washing up. So as long as you aren’t hearing repeats of the same thing or something that locates traffic to being 100s of miles away ,generic ATC background chatter would work fine for me.

11 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

How is this any different to buying an addon aircraft or scenery - you are aiding their income whatever you buy?

Income wasn't the key word in my quotation. residual was.

When we buy an addon aircraft, we pay once for that one product.   If the develop would like more funds from us, they develop a further product.

Residual income is where you pay a subscription, "forever" for something.   So 'Dev A' develops an ATC programme. And (unlike an aircraft or scenery addon), we keep paying monthly for it.

2 hours ago, Sethos said:

Does that really require an explanation

Well yes because the poster wrote "it’s miles better than the default ATC and feels like you’re talking to a human on VATSIM or on a radio."

If it feels like Vatsim then why pay 30 dollars for it when you could just use Vatsim? I thought maybe there was another reason for this rather than the obvious ones you have given.

I can see why GA users would like this and it certainly sounds like a better option than the stock atc in the sim.