2 hours ago, polosim said:

To give you an idea of what the visual approach in Cusco looks like in real life, you can watch this short video.

Thanks, I'll have a look!

And btw sadly my epic video recording of the autoland has been delayed as shadowplay refused to record audio. Being a perfectionist I refused to accept that, but after troubleshooting for more than an hour and still no sound, I'll admit defeat and do it some other time. 

2 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Wait, what you're saying about fail-passive. I just saw this on the ILS approach chart. Before you mentioned it, coincidentally. I was wondering what it meant. 

 

CAT3A - fail passive. A failure during your approach where you intend to autoland will result in a Go-around. 50ft Radio DH.

CAT3B - fail operational (cat 3 dual). No Radio DH. A failure below alert height (100ft in the A320?) will still accommodate an autoland - you can continue.

Alert height is key definition that basically act as a divider between fail passive and fail operational landing systems. It's determined by the manufacturer. Airlines can choose to use lower AH but not a higher (which is more attractive from performance standpoint obviously)

Disclaimer: not an airline pilot.

 

so in short cat1/2/3... defined by enviromental conditions, like airport, weather, flight crew training and so on and land/autoland is depending upon aircraft capability e.g. 2 or 3 radio altimeter operational for the  difference btwn. fail passive and fail operational (at some boeings). Best regards

8 hours ago, polosim said:

When an AUTOLAND will be performed at 40 ft you must check and announce FLARE mode is active. If the FMA does not display FLARE, perform a go-around, or a manual landing if visual references are sufficient.

Alright, but in itself it's not an indicator of an Autoland. That's what I was trying to say.

6 hours ago, SAS443 said:

CAT3A - fail passive. A failure during your approach where you intend to autoland will result in a Go-around. 50ft Radio DH.

CAT3B - fail operational (cat 3 dual). No Radio DH. A failure below alert height (100ft in the A320?) will still accommodate an autoland - you can continue.

Alert height is key definition that basically act as a divider between fail passive and fail operational landing systems. It's determined by the manufacturer. Airlines can choose to use lower AH but not a higher (which is more attractive from performance standpoint obviously)

Disclaimer: not an airline pilot.

 

Using more accessible words, the fail passive thing is using the autoland on 2 axis (the third axis on the rudder are you!), and the fail operational is using 3 axis. You have to be certified for a fail operational CATIII autoland. All the A320 and many B737 have a fail operational 3 axis autoland, this was told me by an Alitalia specialist operating in LIRF. In these days I'm autolanding the Fenix A320 everywhere in Europe without any problem, MSFS20 bug or A320 ability to do it?

Edited March 14, 20242 yr by Claudius_

4 hours ago, Fiorentoni said:

That's what I was trying to say.

I know what you feel, sir. It is quite difficult to try to explain an operation that involves so many things and factors in a single comment.😃

Edited March 14, 20242 yr by polosim

3 hours ago, Fiorentoni said:

Alright, but in itself it's not an indicator of an Autoland. That's what I was trying to say.

Come to think of it - are there any indicators of an autoland? 

10 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

there any indicators of an autoland? 

in short, we could mention the following:

At 350 ft, LAND must be displayed on FMA. This ensures correct final approach guidance

‐ Below 200 ft, the AUTOLAND warning is triggered if:

• Both APs trip off

• Excessive beam deviation is sensed

• Localizer or glide slope transmitter or receiver fails

• A RA discrepancy of at least 15 ft is sensed.

1 hour ago, polosim said:

in short, we could mention the following:

Thanks!

I was under the impression that the FMA indicators would be there anyway, whether the PIC decides to auto land or not. 

Even though the recording from last night doesn't have any sound (gave up troubleshooting), I decided to resurrect it from the recycle bin. So without further ado, I hereby (humbly) present the fabled... previously not considered possible... drumroll... CAT1 auto land!

 

Edited March 14, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett

53 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

CAT1 auto land!

Nice vid!

<FAA and DGAC have entered to chat> 😃

4 hours ago, polosim said:

Nice vid!

<FAA and DGAC have entered to chat> 😃

Thanks. Haha good one! Btw I’m writing this from a high-security prison in Lima 😅

Of course NVidia decided to allow sound recording today as I was set up for a ILS Rwy 17 CATII approach into ENBR Bergen. Go figure! CATII was of course completely unnecessary as low-visibility procedures were not enforced. Feel free to correct me on that phrase! But I guess it’s the PIC’s decision to decide which approach to use based on weather conditions?

Beautiful approach btw with lovely winter scenery and an absolutely awesome freeware ENBR. I might share the video as I got it in 4K HDR up to 120 FPS at 150Mbps in all its glory. I guess it’s a nice demonstration of the updated Fenix V2.

Looking back I realized I had incorrectly set radio DH for category AB aircraft… I always forget something - need to track down my FO (she hasn’t been seen in days…)

And I have to say that with latest update, the aircraft handles beautifully in all stages of flight. I’ve tested her extensively over the last couple of days, including some very hairy go-arounds!

And lo and behold: 0% AP disconnect issues! 🥳

EDIT: here’s the video. Quite strong winds today at ENBR. METAR:

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METAR: Wind 220° 15kt, gusting 27kt. Visibility 10km or more. Clouds few 1200ft, scattered 2000ft, broken 3500ft. Temperature 8°C, dew point 5°C. QNH 998hPa

Seatbelt sign on at 3000ft lol!

Edited March 14, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett

@Cpt_Piett what kind of scenery is that? it remember me FSX 😅 

Jokes apart, I have serious doubts on the asset when autolanding the Fenix A320, the flare is too long and the nose is floating up for many meters in the sim. The videos are showing another story, this one is an autoland made with an Eurowing A320 (probable CFM) at 7.50min. Maybe I'm wrong with the throttles, or this Fenix A320 is floating like a butterfly on the flowers?

 

Edited March 14, 20242 yr by Claudius_

14 hours ago, solito said:

Why is it that at my C414, the altimeter first digit is a 7, so it shows 70.000 feet at ground, when it should be 00.000  ?

You have the wrong thread, friend.    This is a Fenix thread. 

5 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Come to think of it - are there any indicators of an autoland? 

I think one could say: Every approach is an autoland until you take over control.

3 hours ago, Claudius_ said:

@Cpt_Piett what kind of scenery is that? it remember me FSX 😅 

You know, I had a good laugh there! After watching my own video, I realised that the scenery looked absolutely terrible 😅 I was flying into SPJC Lima Intl. Guess I didn't notice on final approach as I had to be both Cpt and FO...

I fly mostly in EU, NA and AU/NZ, but every now and then I want to try something different, and I usually then head for SA. The Orbx mesh is amaing*, but unfortunately most of the ground textures are not!

*it seems that I'm unable to type the letter Z (had to copy/paste it from google just now) as I unwisely decided to use it to start video capture in Nvidia's beta app. And of course now it refuses to let me change it to anything other than default. Which doesn't work very well for my keyboard as it's difficult to access F3. What a hot mess Nvidia's overlay is (even though the video quality is exceptional) Sigh. 

3 hours ago, Claudius_ said:

The videos are showing another story

Btw excellent video, very educational! Also - looking at those cloud tops I'm thinking Asobo has done a pretty good job. And - it seems quite helpful to have an FO on the flight deck 🙂

52 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

I think one could say: Every approach is an autoland until you take over control.

You know, I think that might clear up much of the confusion about auto landing. And it is according to my observations.

3 hours ago, Claudius_ said:

Jokes apart, I have serious doubts on the asset when autolanding the Fenix A320, the flare is too long and the nose is floating up for many meters in the sim. The videos are showing another story, this one is an autoland made with an Eurowing A320 (probable CFM) at 7.50min. Maybe I'm wrong with the throttles, or this Fenix A320 is floating like a butterfly on the flowers?

I know. Looking especially at my 2nd video (BAW into ENBR with a fairly strong x-wind component), I can tell that the nose didn't make ground contact for quite some time. I remembered that I did get confused after touchdown as I didn't have much yaw authority (not sure how to explain this well) to keep the aircraft on the centreline. I probably unwisely disconnected AP too early, before the nose wheel finally touched down. The aircraft did however do the decrabiing quite well, IMO. 

EDIT: Keep getting more ideas. I can recommend downloading these weather presets in order to set low-visibility conditions anywhere. 

Edited March 14, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett