March 14, 20242 yr 11 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said: I know. Looking especially at my 2nd video (BAW into ENBR with a fairly strong x-wind component), I can tell that the nose didn't make ground contact for quite some time. I remembered that I did get confused after touchdown as I didn't have much yaw authority (not sure how to explain this well) to keep the aircraft on the centreline. I probably unwisely disconnected AP too early, before the nose wheel finally touched down. The aircraft did however do the decrabiing quite well, IMO. Here a good video on how to flare on a real A320, I'm testing again and compare with the Fenix performance: Missing the PMDG DC6 in MSFS 2024 (she's here, but...).
March 14, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, Fiorentoni said: I think one could say: Every approach is an autoland until you take over control. Agreed. Although, would you get an autoland with only one of the APs engaged? I never do autolands and thus, I personally never arm both APs, so not sure! Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
March 14, 20242 yr Commercial Member 1 minute ago, JYW said: with only one of the APs engaged? Yes, only that you will see it shown in your FMA as CAT3 Single, (that's if there is no other failure in the required equipment that degrades the aircraft).
March 14, 20242 yr 4 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said: EDIT: here’s the video. Quite strong winds today at ENBR. METAR: Great video of a stunning scenery! Totally off topic, but: Everytime I see those videos I wonder how do you guys know when you touched down? There is no shaking or any adequate movement whatsoever in the cockpit when you touch down. It looks so sterile and immersion-breaking. Apart from I don't understand why Asobo haven't added a convincing touchdown effect so far themselves, do yourself a favor and get FSRealistic! 😉 Even if you don't use it for anything else but the touchdown effects. These alone are worth it. It adds so much to the immersion. You get a visual and acoustic feedback on your touch down - and how hard it was. You will never want to fly (land) without FSRealistic again. It works fine with the Fenix. You can see the effect here (at 11:30): Edited March 14, 20242 yr by RALF9636
March 14, 20242 yr 31 minutes ago, RALF9636 said: Totally off topic, but: Everytime I see those videos I wonder how do you guys know when you touched down? There is no shaking or any adequate movement whatsoever in the cockpit when you touch down. It looks so sterile and immersion-breaking. Don’t think it’s off topic. As a matter of fact, I’d like some shaking and perhaps a loud “thump” upon touchdown. In the video I could tell I had touched down as the FMA announced “rollout”. I think I have FSRealistic (used it a lot in XP11), but completely forgot about it. At the moment I’m thinking how similar the sounds are compared to the EGLL auto land video that @Claudius_ shared with us. I especially like the significant increase in noise level as the gear is extended. Just did an IAE engine start and cranked the volume up. I think my floor started to vibrate from the low frequency rumble coming from the subwoofer 🙂 And lest not forget the sounds on takeoff - awesome! Edited March 14, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
March 14, 20242 yr Author Only time I do an Autoland is if the weather at the arrival is below minimums. Doesn't happen very often, many a dozen times in hundreds and hundreds of flights. If I can see the runway, at minimums, I always disconnect AP and land . Edited March 14, 20242 yr by Bobsk8
March 14, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, Bobsk8 said: Only time I do an Autoland is if the weather at the arrival is below minimums. Doesn't happen very often, many a dozen times in hundreds and hundreds of flights. If I can see the runway, at minimums, I always disconnect AP and land . Same. Much more rewarding. Been doing a lot of auto lands lately 'cause of this thread though. Think I've finally understood the logic behind it. Btw guys - do you enter ALTN fuel in the INIT B page? 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
March 14, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said: Same. Much more rewarding. Been doing a lot of auto lands lately 'cause of this thread though. Think I've finally understood the logic behind it. Btw guys - do you enter ALTN fuel in the INIT B page? Absolutely gives you a better prediction of holding time plus other factors.
March 14, 20242 yr 2 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said: Btw guys - do you enter ALTN fuel in the INIT B page? Always. The Init B page needs to be completely filled out. All fuel numbers, according to your dispatch briefing. On the ground the calculation of the minutes remaining will be wrong though. That's a software design flaw of the Airbus. But as soon as the engines are running and you are in the air, the calculations will be correct. Edited March 14, 20242 yr by Farlis
March 14, 20242 yr I tested the autoland at EDDM and LFMN to verify the flare and how to manage the throttles properly, I followed the procedure that A320 Mentor indicated in the above video: it works! At 30ft RA it's important to move the levers to idle, then apply the reverse, in this way the nose is not floating anymore and the airplane is slowing down as we can see in the videos of the real A320. My mistake was in the "retard" thing so I was too late to move the levers to idle, but we have to care just to the 30ft RA. Now I'm not feeling retarded anymore (but I need more tests to verify more things). Edited March 15, 20242 yr by Claudius_ Missing the PMDG DC6 in MSFS 2024 (she's here, but...).
March 15, 20242 yr @Claudius_ that's good news! On my last autoland (video above) I probably should not have waited until the retard callout to go idle thrust. Usually I go idle around 30-40ft when not doing autolands. And I probably waited too long to apply reverse thrust. Once I did, the nose settled very quickly on the ground. Btw I'm going to give FSRealistic another try. Edited March 15, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
March 15, 20242 yr 5 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said: Btw I'm going to give FSRealistic another try. Just did. I removed most of the various sounds, but found the landing effect useful. Luckily I managed to do an extra hard landing - in order to demonstrate FSR’s capabilities of course *cough* FSR will surely remove all doubts about whether the aircraft touched down or not. As my video painfully demonstrates 😅 No need to flare with a CONF3 landing, right? 😝 Edited March 15, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
March 15, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said: FSR will surely remove all doubts about whether the aircraft touched down or not. As my video painfully demonstrates 😅 No need to flare with a CONF3 landing, right? 😝 Very nice 😄. Another nice effect that enhances immersion a lot with the Fenix is the one for the speedbrakes. Be aware of the low alt turbulence effect though. I'm not sure if it has been solved but it could have adverse effects on the flightmodel of the Fenix. I have it off.
March 15, 20242 yr 13 hours ago, Claudius_ said: Here a good video on how to flare on a real A320, I'm testing again and compare with the Fenix performance: The AI in this vid is a bit disconcerting! 😲 B450 Tomahawk Max / Ryzen 7 5800x3D / RTX 3060ti 8G / Noctua NH-UI21S Max Cooling / 32G Patriot RAM / 1TB NVME / 450G SSD / Thrustmaster TCA & Throttle Quadrant / Xiaomi 32" Wide Curved Monitor 1440p 144hz
March 15, 20242 yr 37 minutes ago, El Diablito said: The AI in this vid is a bit disconcerting! 😲 And...? Missing the PMDG DC6 in MSFS 2024 (she's here, but...).
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