March 14, 20242 yr So as part of this month continuing to form the worst instability I've seen in MSFS since Aug 2020, here's the latest little 'ball of fun' I'm fighting with:- After I lost all settings and spent 7 hours reconfiguring all of my controllers and other settings, I set MSFS to "full screen" (as I always do) in the Graphics settings and saved it. Now, when I launch MSFS, it is always in Windowed mode. Every single time I launch it, I need to go into settings, set it to Full screen, save, save again, etc. And yet when I next launch it, it is back to Windowed mode. Anyone know what could be causing this? Every single other setting is being saved between sessions. It's just this annoying revert to Window mode that is persistently failing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
March 14, 20242 yr I'm assuming your in the beta ? Please refer to https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/1-37-8-0-regression-custom-window-size-being-reset-every-time-app-is-started-also-fullscreen-mode-reverting-to-windowed-mode/633921 In the mean time Press alt+enter to quickly toggle back to full screen Edited March 14, 20242 yr by Maxis AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2 Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders
March 14, 20242 yr Author 6 minutes ago, Maxis said: I'm assuming your in the beta ? Please refer to https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/1-37-8-0-regression-custom-window-size-being-reset-every-time-app-is-started-also-fullscreen-mode-reverting-to-windowed-mode/633921 In the mean time Press alt+enter to quickly toggle back to full screen Thank you! I'd missed that. Happy to live with it now I know that it's solely as a result of the beta. 👍 Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
March 14, 20242 yr This is happening to me and I am not in the beta program. Even if I set windowed mode to maximize, the next time the sim is started it is not a maximized window, Edited March 14, 20242 yr by hs118 My MSFS 2020 repaints: Flightsim.to - Profile of HStreet Working on MSFS 2024 versions.
March 14, 20242 yr Just now, hs118 said: This is happening to me and I am not in the beta program. It may be happening to you because based on the explanation in the thread the sim pops up an updater which in turns make the sim windowed. I presume this will be rectified in an upcoming update. you can immediately alt+enter and it returns to full screen until a fix is released. AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2 Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders
March 14, 20242 yr Author 57 minutes ago, hs118 said: This is happening to me and I am not in the beta program. Even if I set windowed mode to maximize, the next time the sim is started it is not a maximized window, I just read on the official forum, a number of reports of users not on the beta, that are also seeing this problem. As Maxis said, it seems to be associated with the update windows. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
March 14, 20242 yr 2 hours ago, hs118 said: This is happening to me and I am not in the beta program. Even if I set windowed mode to maximize, the next time the sim is started it is not a maximized window, The simulator has a lot of room for improvement. I didn't see any other flight simulator with so many technical issues as this one, regardless of whether it is beta or not. 747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning.
March 14, 20242 yr Author 1 hour ago, LRBS said: The simulator has a lot of room for improvement. I didn't see any other flight simulator with so many technical issues as this one, regardless of whether it is beta or not. Yes, I think it's fair to say that MSFS is having something of a rough spot at the moment. There are a lot of posts about settings being lost, long loading times, stuck on the 'checking updates', etc, etc. I have got off very lightly with MSFS problems over the years. But it's been a nightmare the last few weeks. Some of it is beta-related - that, I have to accept, as I willingly opted into the beta. But much of it is not. Losing all of my settings and having to spend 7 hours resetting 40 different controller profiles was nothing to do with the beta! I hope MS can get to the bottom of this latest period of instabilities and get it back to being a reliable, stable platform. Edited March 14, 20242 yr by JYW Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
March 15, 20242 yr 11 hours ago, JYW said: Some of it is beta-related - that, I have to accept, as I willingly opted into the beta. But much of it is not. Losing all of my settings and having to spend 7 hours resetting 40 different controller profiles was nothing to do with the beta! If that ever happens to you again try logging out of your XBOX account and logging back in, this will put you back in touch with the cloud, where all your settings are stored. Edited March 15, 20242 yr by Ixoye System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 64Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | Seasonic Vertex 1000W I LG Ultra Gear 34 UW I
March 20, 20242 yr On 3/15/2024 at 2:29 AM, Ixoye said: If that ever happens to you again try logging out of your XBOX account and logging back in, this will put you back in touch with the cloud, where all your settings are stored. Does this as well with mine (right after the (2) splash screens) then you'll for a split second see the 'update screen' then back to the loading screen in albeit in windowed mode. I'm not running beta. This is affecting both beta and public builds. Edited March 20, 20242 yr by udidwht Win10Pro 22H2-19045.7184 IntelCorei7-3770K GigabyteGA-Z68XP-UD3 32GBGSkillCL7-8-8-24 AsusRTX2070OC8GB 1TBCrucialMX500SSD 2 TB PNY CS900 (x3)1TBRAWMushkinSSDs LGBlueRayBurner RosewillChallengerTowerBlack CorsairRM750wPSU X56HOTAS TtesportsCommanderKeyboardMousecombo TrackIR5Pro 34inUltraWideScreenLG2560x1080p TM2xMFDCougar OculusQuest2 InateckKU5211PCIe3.2 LTERIVERPCIeG2S4 TMobileHomeInternet5GMSI Codex Series R2 B14NUC7-095US Windows 11 Home 25H2 26200.8524 - i7 14700F MSI Pro B760 VC Wifi II RTX 5060ti OC 16GB 32GB DDR5 5600mhz 2TB MSI nVME 4TB Crucial nVME 4TB SPCC SATA SSD P-3 4TB SSD 650w Gold PSU Monitor LG 2560x1080p 34in
March 20, 20242 yr This isn't normal? I've had this problem literally since I first got MSFS back in 2020. 4 years I've had to maximize my screen after every update. I figured it was normal because I've built a new PC and went to W11 and it does the same on the entirely brand new PC with no similar parts as the old. Never knew about Alt Enter. Thank you! Take-offs are optional, landings are mandatory.The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire. To make a small fortune in aviation you must start with a large fortune.There's nothing less important than the runway behind you and the altitude above you. It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground.
March 20, 20242 yr This windowed state started happening about a week ago. Every time the sim is started. After Alt + Enter all good. Not on the beta. Bizarre. SAR Pilot. Flight Sim'ing since the beginning.
March 20, 20242 yr On 3/14/2024 at 4:11 PM, LRBS said: The simulator has a lot of room for improvement. I didn't see any other flight simulator with so many technical issues as this one, regardless of whether it is beta or not. Guess you haven't been flying flight sims very long.
March 20, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said: Guess you haven't been flying flight sims very long. Do all the problems that so many people are complaining about on this platform have anything to do with me? 747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning.
March 20, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, Flyfaster_MTN002 said: This windowed state started happening about a week ago. Every time the sim is started. After Alt + Enter all good. Not on the beta. Bizarre. https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/1-37-8-0-regression-custom-window-size-being-reset-every-time-app-is-started-also-fullscreen-mode-reverting-to-windowed-mode/633921 Win10Pro 22H2-19045.7184 IntelCorei7-3770K GigabyteGA-Z68XP-UD3 32GBGSkillCL7-8-8-24 AsusRTX2070OC8GB 1TBCrucialMX500SSD 2 TB PNY CS900 (x3)1TBRAWMushkinSSDs LGBlueRayBurner RosewillChallengerTowerBlack CorsairRM750wPSU X56HOTAS TtesportsCommanderKeyboardMousecombo TrackIR5Pro 34inUltraWideScreenLG2560x1080p TM2xMFDCougar OculusQuest2 InateckKU5211PCIe3.2 LTERIVERPCIeG2S4 TMobileHomeInternet5GMSI Codex Series R2 B14NUC7-095US Windows 11 Home 25H2 26200.8524 - i7 14700F MSI Pro B760 VC Wifi II RTX 5060ti OC 16GB 32GB DDR5 5600mhz 2TB MSI nVME 4TB Crucial nVME 4TB SPCC SATA SSD P-3 4TB SSD 650w Gold PSU Monitor LG 2560x1080p 34in
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