2 minutes ago, rick celik said:

Aren’t you supposed to use the speed brakes to help manage your decent? 

you are missing the point... speedbrakes can of course be used, but they are only used if they are needed.  The point is the PMDG VNAV calculated such a perfect descent path that manual intervention with the speedbrakes was not needed.

Edited August 20, 20241 yr by Pilot53

17 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

You might have a terminal case of selection bias.

Might want to get that checked out and corrected.

Fly the 737 and other freeware aircrafts you might want to check the facts like I mentioned to you.

30 minutes ago, SP2472 said:

My question, why does Fenix include European taxes in the listed total price (approx $17.32 US), us Americans should be paying this? The taxes are not included at Aerosoft.

Darryl

Fenix absorb the cost of the tax. I might be wrong it could be a legal thing they have to show.

24 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

😂 "...ports planes..." Says the guy who's obviously never written a line of code.

I could make just as ridiculous an assertion by saying that Fenix hasn't done anything but create some 3D art because they just re-use the ProSim software.

But I'd never do that because I realize the herculean efforts they've put into their add-ons, and I applaud their success.

Yes they use Pro Sim code but something like 95% is rebuilt code and not Pro Sim so argument is null. Lets not forget everytime they release a product the servers can't handle it 😂

Edited August 20, 20241 yr by carlanthony24

24 minutes ago, Pilot53 said:

you are missing the point... speedbrakes can of course be used, but they are only used if they are needed.  The point is the PMDG VNAV calculated such a perfect descent path that manual intervention with the speedbrakes was not needed.

PMDG VNAV especially on the 737 for ages was not the best. To be honest beed on a lot of 738 and speedbreaks also get used quite abit In the A321 speedbreaks is used around the same maybe more.

Edited August 20, 20241 yr by carlanthony24

Why does Fenix suck so much when it comes to making a believable flight model? All of their aircraft float on landing to a hilarious degree. 

Edited August 20, 20241 yr by RNAVV19R

24 minutes ago, carlanthony24 said:

PMDG VNAV especially on the 737 for ages was not the best. To be honest beed on a lot of 738 and speedbreaks also get used quite abit In the A321 speedbreaks is used around the same maybe more.

They get used because in the real world because ATC vectors aircraft and tells them to change speed/altitude/ and expedite descents.  In the sim assuming no ATC is being used, if an accurate wind forecast is entered, and the aircraft doesnt give you any errors stating that the path is too steep it should (ideally) plan a managed descent path at idle thrust that does not require the use the speedbrakes to intervene.  In the real A320 familly, it will actually plan a path that is a bit too shallow, with the aircraft having to add thrust commonly.  So the real aircraft behaves completely opposite to the fenix in this case.  In the fenix you ALWAYS need to use speedbrakes, no matter what.   

Edited August 20, 20241 yr by Pilot53

2 minutes ago, Pilot53 said:

They get used because in the real world because ATC vectors aircraft and tells them to change speed/altitude/ and expedite descents.  In the sim assuming no ATC is being used, if an accurate wind forecast is entered, and the aircraft doesnt give you any errors stating that the path is too steep it should plan a managed descent at idle thrust without having to use the speedbrakes to intervene.  Of course there are times when it might not be 100% perfect, but in the fenix you ALWAYS need to use speedbrakes, no matter what.   

Even then I've been in the flight deck when we have been on a star and not getting restrictions being used a lot. I didn't need to use them on the 319 just. The 320 use them most of the time. The 321 just from experience are used more than just being vectored etc.

25 minutes ago, RNAVV19R said:

Why does Fenix suck so much when it comes to making a believable flight model? All of their aircraft float on landing to a hilarious degree. 

That is definitely more a sim issue than a Fenix issue.

Ground handling and transitions are a well known and widely acknowledged problem.

9 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

That is definitely more a sim issue than a Fenix issue.

Ground handling and transitions are a well known and widely acknowledged problem.

Nah. The 747, 787, 737, 777, the other A320s, don't have this floaty behavior. 

45 minutes ago, RNAVV19R said:

Nah. The 747, 787, 737, 777, the other A320s, don't have this floaty behavior. 

That’s odd, I cut the throttles a little too early the other day and it dropped like a rock. A320

8 minutes ago, rick celik said:

That’s odd, I cut the throttles a little too early the other day and it dropped like a rock. A320

Well, that's expected.

However, most airlines have their pilots land with AT engaged, as per Airbus recommendations. That's when the floaty behavior is exhibited in the Fenix. 

Edited August 20, 20241 yr by RNAVV19R

18 minutes ago, RNAVV19R said:

Well, that's expected.

However, most airlines have their pilots land with AT engaged, as per Airbus recommendations. That's when the floaty behavior is exhibited in the Fenix. 

In the Airbus I generally do have the AT engaged and pull it back into idle after the retard call out depending on the circumstances.
 

That's the procedure for landing from what I know, the retard call out is for guidance, this is based off what I recall reading. You can pull it back before or after that call out. AT on or not, the throttles go back to idle if you pull the levers back. 

1 hour ago, carlanthony24 said:

Even then I've been in the flight deck when we have been on a star and not getting restrictions being used a lot. I didn't need to use them on the 319 just. The 320 use them most of the time. The 321 just from experience are used more than just being vectored etc.

Every pilot of a jet transport wants to do an idle descent without speedbrakes until a few thousand feet above ground because it's the most efficient way to fly. (Fuel isn't cheap these days.) If you end up having to use speedbrakes, it means you could have started your descent earlier, spent less time with the engines at cruise thrust, and burnt less fuel. This applies to an A321 as much as any other jet transport -- and pilots get very good at judging when they'll need to start their descent, because the airline loves it, plus it's just a point of pride. This includes accounting for differences in the aircraft variant (am I flying the A319 or the A321 today?).

VNAV should accomplish the same thing -- it's just automating the descent planning the pilot would otherwise be doing manually. (Not all VNAVs are created equal though -- but the Airbus is reputed to be pretty good. No matter how good the VNAV, pilots will still tend to sanity-check what it's doing and intervene if needed.)

If speedbrakes do end up being used, it means that either a) the pilot misjudged the situtation, b) the winds were different than forecast, or c) ATC did something the pilot didn't want or expect (e.g. kept them high or gave them an unexpected shortcut). Hence the old adage (spoken from pilot to controller): "The speedbrake is for my mistakes, not yours."

Edited August 20, 20241 yr by martinboehme
Added explicit reference to VNAV

6 hours ago, Azapata87 said:

Had some serious porpoising after rotation on my first departure with the A321. Not sure what that was about. 

Are you using any addon for weather and turbulence?

If so try and deactivate any turbulence in the addon and see if that solves the issue of the porpoising.

Please report back.