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Is this too blurry for TLOD=100?

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Hello everyone. I've seen several pictures here of MSFS, and all of them look very crisp and detailed but mine. This is an example, landing with the Fenix A320 at UBBB:

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Full 1080p picture here: https://flic.kr/p/2qgUxNJ

Airport is this freeware enhancement: https://flightsim.to/file/17101/baku-ubbb-airport-lights-enhancement

Specs in signature. The other stuff I have running with MSFS is ActiveSky (I never got along with default WX), GSX (which somehow shuts down after takeoff), LVFR static aircraft and FSHud (with just 10 active and 10 parked aircraft). I lock the sim at 30 FPS with RTSS (front-edge sync) and then I apply 2x FG with Lossless Scaling. I run in DX12 mode (somehow it behaves better).

My settings are mostly High, with TAA, AF=16x, TLOD and OLOD=100, PG off and no in-sim traffic (roads and boats at just 10%). My internet service is a 300 mbps plan. That's the fastest I can get down here. I don't use AutoFPS, it reduces TLOD even further. I tried TLOD=200 but then I got stutters.

While the cocckpit textures are good for my liking, I think I could do better with a 5700X3D and a 300 mbps connection regarding ground textures. What do you think?

Edited by Luis Hernandez

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Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

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Its msfs 

I run at 300 lod with a 7950x3d

3080ti 6000mhs ddr5 32gb rsm

 

300mbps internet speed.

16x in nvcp with a few other options low latency performance mode etc.

 

Still looks word not allowed word not allowed for most part.

 

Yet others have crisp clear msfs.

 

Mike 

You could help yourself by setting anistropic filtering in MS to off, and then setting the same in nvidia control panel to 16.  I found that helps, but is likely to vary from rig to rig. Also, TLOD set to minimum of 150. I have found little benefit from setting above 200, although some will say otherwise. :wink:

Edited by Rocky_53

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2 minutes ago, Rocky_53 said:

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Edited by Rocky_53

Howard
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There's definitely something wrong with your MSFS settings. You should try an ultra setting without any external aps or community addons just to see how it looks. If it looks as bad as the pic, I would consider a full re-install after you try with a vanilla sim.

MSFS

6 hours ago, Rocky_53 said:

You could help yourself by setting anistropic filtering in MS to off, and then setting the same in nvidia control panel to 16.  I found that helps, but is likely to vary from rig to rig. Also, TLOD set to minimum of 150. I have found little benefit from setting above 200, although some will say otherwise. :wink:

🖐️Yup, I'm one to say otherwise.  When I fly and look out of the cockpit, I don't want to see the landscape "filling in" in front of me as I fly.  I just want it to be there, already rendered and filled in.  This is what TOLD does.  It affects how far away landscapes are rendered.  Naturally, it takes a decent rig to crank up TLOD.

9800X3D | RTX 5090 FE | X870E Aorus Pro | 64GB G.Skill DDR5 6000MT/s | WD Black 2TB NVMe

you could try deleting all the cache and re installing the latest nvidia driver ?

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TLOD 100 is quite low, set the bar a bit higher and see how it looks.

i7-13700KF, 32gb DDR4 3200,  RTX 4080, Win 11, MSFS 2024

1 hour ago, jaxgator said:

🖐️Yup, I'm one to say otherwise.  When I fly and look out of the cockpit, I don't want to see the landscape "filling in" in front of me as I fly.  I just want it to be there, already rendered and filled in.  This is what TOLD does.  It affects how far away landscapes are rendered.  Naturally, it takes a decent rig to crank up TLOD.

With AI planes disabled, I can run TLOD and OLOD @ 250/200 respectively on my i5 7600K @ 4.5Ghz/32GB DDR4-3600 RAM/6GB Nvidia GTX 980Ti system.

Edited by Christopher Low

Christopher Low

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Thank you all for your replies. Definitely there's something wrong with my ground and you confirmed it. I tried first increasing TLOD to 200, but I'm getting almost the same blurries. Had to increase settings to Ultra (and reduce clouds and lighting) to see an actual improvement. Setting AA to 16x helps also a bit, I guess. This is how it looks at KMIA, approaching runway 9:

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Please disregard the approach speeds and configuration. Do you also see the far ground better?

Edited by Luis Hernandez

Best regards,
Luis Hernández 20px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png

Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.

the single biggest killer of performance is the traffic slider 0 to 100 in MSFS options.

it will cost about $7 to try LSFG, which I think requires Steam to purchase, but I think does not require steam to run it.

5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB  PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.

 

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9 hours ago, Fielder said:

the single biggest killer of performance is the traffic slider 0 to 100 in MSFS options.

I've already set it at 0. FSHud set to just 10 parked+10 active aircraft (way too low for my liking, but FSHud eats too much CPU).

9 hours ago, Fielder said:

it will cost about $7 to try LSFG, which I think requires Steam to purchase, but I think does not require steam to run it.

I already have it. My goal is to have a stable 30 native FPS, before applying FG.

Edited by Luis Hernandez

Best regards,
Luis Hernández 20px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png

Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.

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One question: are you all guys using DX11 or DX12? DX12 used to be more stable regarding FPS, but I've just tested with DX11 and looks like it's behaving better.

Apparently, Ultra is too much for my 3060 Ti.

Edited by Luis Hernandez

Best regards,
Luis Hernández 20px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png

Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.

In the sim, disable Anisotropic Filtering. In your GPU driver software, enable 16X for MSFS.

AMD 9950X3D | 64 GB RAM | RTX 5090

FMR: 747 FO, 757/767 CAPT, 737 Check Airman
Current 777 CAPT

 

2 hours ago, Luis Hernandez said:

One question: are you all guys using DX11 or DX12? DX12 used to be more stable regarding FPS, but I've just tested with DX11 and looks like it's behaving better.

Apparently, Ultra is too much for my 3060 Ti.

I tried dx 12 today and I was pleasantly surprised by how much better it was from its initial release and the sim looked a little more AA ish. Looked nicer! Now I have a Titan card, so vRam could become an issue for me, but I'll keep it for now. I still experienced the occasional pauses, but it was mostly smooth.

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