8 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

So far up to 29GB used and 6% page file use (2.3GB). Which means that in this situation 64GB would be useful.

A really good stress test to demonstrate a good majority of users don’t need 64GB, it’s a shame asobo has yet to revise the specs and we have people buying products they don’t necessarily need

Edited September 28, 20241 yr by Lucky38i

13 hours ago, Sethos said:

Should also try messing with the PowerDown feature, listed as 'enabled' on yours. I had some problems getting it to work on older BIOS versions but seems to function now. When disabled, it means the RAM never powers down to true idle which improves latency and performance, plus RAM sip so little power, it's not something you'd notice. Think Buildzoid also mentions it in his video.

I couldn't find this in the BIOS. 

13 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I couldn't find this in the BIOS. 

Mine was listed on the same page as all the RAM timings, all the way down towards the bottom. Though I'm on an ASUS board, so could be completely up in the air where it's located on yours.

27 minutes ago, Lucky38i said:

A really good stress test to demonstrate a good majority of users don’t need 64GB, it’s a shame asobo has yet to revise the specs and we have people buying products they don’t necessarily need

Asobo isn't forcing any of us to go from 32-64, those of us doing it are doing it by choice so I don't see it as a shame.  Most of us were probably looking for an excuse 😉  

It's also not really a valid stress test as it is FS2020 not FS2024 so the baseline for the test is invalid. 

 

I've had 64GB for 4 years already, never regretted it personally. 

1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I couldn't find this in the BIOS. 

From your images, I thought that you had the same BIOS as I have.  I found the Power Down mode under the Advanced Memory Settings.

I saw the following comment on Buildzoid's memory timings video concerning disabling the Power Down mode - "I wish Buildzoid would make a small PSA about power down mode. Memory context restore MUST be disabled  if you disable power down mode, or you will bluescreen. You will bluescreen so bad that's if you manage to get into windows, wonder why, and think it's these memory timings. No, it's power down mode.  Go ahead and disable power down mode, but ALSO DISABLE MEMORY CONTEXT RESTORE. MCR on auto, or enabled along with power down mode disabled will cause massive issues."

Edited September 28, 20241 yr by jaxgator

11 minutes ago, jaxgator said:

I saw the following comment on Buildzoid's memory timings video concerning disabling the Power Down mode - "I wish Buildzoid would make a small PSA about power down mode. Memory context restore MUST be disabled  if you disable power down mode, or you will bluescreen. You will bluescreen so bad that's if you manage to get into windows, wonder why, and think it's these memory timings. No, it's power down mode.  Go ahead and disable power down mode, but ALSO DISABLE MEMORY CONTEXT RESTORE. MCR on auto, or enabled along with power down mode disabled will cause massive issues."

Note this is not applicable any more (if you have an updated BIOS), that was fixed quite a while ago in an AGESA update. You can now enable / disable them separately. I had that exact issue myself.

 

Edited September 28, 20241 yr by Sethos

2 minutes ago, Sethos said:

Note this is not applicable any more, that was fixed quite a while ago in an AGESA update. You can now enable / disable them separately. I had that exact issue myself.

Thanks!  I was planning on applying it tomorrow when I get my memory but will now disregard.

1 hour ago, psolk said:

Asobo isn't forcing any of us to go from 32-64, those of us doing it are doing it by choice so I don't see it as a shame.

Which I understand but there are others who have suddenly become concerned about the capability of their machine because of the spec sheet been overblown and nonsensical, I'm not specifically blaming shame on anyone here, this is more on Asobo incorrectly providing a confusing spec sheet to PC owners who are less aware about PC components and their capabilities.

 

1 hour ago, psolk said:

It's also not really a valid stress test as it is FS2020 not FS2024 so the baseline for the test is invalid. 

I mean sure... Though Cpt Piett stress test was.. so overblown and beyond the norm that I can't possibly see FS24 really tipping the scale that much. I mean Chrome alone was using 30GB of RAM with their stress test.

Feel free to call me out on it when FS24 releases but if Cpt Pieet is willing to do the test again once FS24 is out, I really doubt there's going to be a massive difference in RAM Usage (Not allocation)

6 minutes ago, Lucky38i said:

Which I understand but there are others who have suddenly become concerned about the capability of their machine because of the spec sheet been overblown and nonsensical, I'm not specifically blaming shame on anyone here, this is more on Asobo incorrectly providing a confusing spec sheet to PC owners who are less aware about PC components and their capabilities.

 

I mean sure... Though Cpt Piett stress test was.. so overblown and beyond the norm that I can't possibly see FS24 really tipping the scale that much. I mean Chrome alone was using 30GB of RAM with their stress test.

Feel free to call me out on it when FS24 releases but if Cpt Pieet is willing to do the test again once FS24 is out, I really doubt there's going to be a massive difference in RAM Usage (Not allocation)

I have no desire to call you out, you may very well be correct, I am merely playing devils advocate and if you are of that generation I am like Tim the Toolman Taylor anyway LOL.   

1 hour ago, jaxgator said:

From your images, I thought that you had the same BIOS as I have.  I found the Power Down mode under the Advanced Memory Settings.

Thanks! Don't think I've seen it, so I probably need to update the BIOS. Let me check. 

56 minutes ago, Sethos said:

Note this is not applicable any more (if you have an updated BIOS), that was fixed quite a while ago in an AGESA update. You can now enable / disable them separately. I had that exact issue myself.

Thanks for the heads up! So to confirm: no need to disable Memory context restore along with power down?

everybody to there own i guess !, if you are familiar with that expression 

25 minutes ago, Lucky38i said:

Feel free to call me out on it when FS24 releases but if Cpt Pieet is willing to do the test again once FS24 is out

Absolutely. And yes, I was aiming to throw everything I could think of at the system to see how high the RAM usage would be. Of course this won't apply to 2024. 

But I seem to remember from the latest dev stream that Seb mentioned he's using MSFS with 32GB. And it was fine. I think he also said that 64GB is probably not needed unless a lot of background apps are running along with the sim. 

Edited September 28, 20241 yr by Cpt_Piett

1 minute ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Absolutely. And yes, I was aiming to throw everything I could think of at the system to see how high the RAM usage would be. Of course this won't apply to 2024. 

But I seem to remember from the latest dev stream that Seb mentioned he's using MSFS with 32GB. And it was fine. I think he also said that 64GB is probably not needed unless a lot of background apps are running along with the sim. 

yes just belt and braces , not necessary yes  but it wont hurt either 

Christmas came early for me!  Ok, so I made the memory timing changes shown in Buildzoid's video.  Here are my ZenTimings...

He also made some voltage changes...

I take it I need to make those changes here as well?