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64 GB RAM ?

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1 hour ago, westman said:

witch bios , iam on 2204 that is the best until now for mem combability and mem OC

i updated to 2401 Agesa 1.2.0.2 yesterday, ive just followed buildzoids timings exactly for the 7800x3d on a strix and its booted nicely into w11 , but iam pretty sure when i reboot i will get with no post and the QED reading 00 lol!

yep just as i suspected as soon i restarted the pc no post 

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  • Especially with DDR5 and AMD, there’s an advantage with 2 sticks vs 4. Basically with 4 sticks it might be hard to run at the same speed and timings. In extreme cases there could be instability issues

  • No one is actually claiming huge improvements.  Most of us are suggesting incremental improvements we weren't expecting adding to overall RAM consumption and MSFS RAM consumption and noticed less micr

code 00 is normally mem related , problem with memcontroller you seems unlucky with cpu lottery

I replaced my 7800X3D and 64GB of Gskill RAM 4 times because the RAM kept failing. It would run fine until playing MSFS with Pimax Crystal. I finally got a single stick of 32GB to work and haven’t touched it since. 

16 minutes ago, westman said:

code 00 is normally mem related , problem with memcontroller you seems unlucky with cpu lottery

yep i think so too, gonna upgrade to 9xxx anyway maybe 9900x but will wait for the x3d's first and if the 2 R9's have the 2 ccd shenanigan's again well we will see  

ROG Crossair Hero X670e , 9900X, TUF 4090 , X4 NVME's. OS  2TB 980 Pro , MSFS  2TB WD Black , Kington Fury 64GB ram ( 6000) Corsair RM1000 PSU, Artic Freezer iii 360 AIO  . Phanteks P600s Case ,TCL QM8B 50" 120 Hz  TV,second 24 inch screen for charts you tube etc, and 11" touch screen for the EFB. Warthog Stick and TCA Captains throttle ( full pack)  Velocity 1 Rudder Pedals , extreme3D for the Tiller,Streamdeck XL x2 / Streamdeck +/Streamdeck mini because i like pressing buttons 

I was thinking of getting another 32 GB DDR5, then read about potential issues with 4 sticks.  I have just seen the developer stream where Sebastian Wloch said that more than 32 GB was only necessary if you are running other apps simultaneously, like recording.  I'll probably just hang on now and see how much it actually uses.

Hard to believe 32GB of RAM will be insufficient to run this thing maxed out... unless you run other programs congruently

SAR Pilot. Flight Sim'ing since the beginning.

3 hours ago, sonny147 said:

yep i think so too, gonna upgrade to 9xxx anyway maybe 9900x but will wait for the x3d's first and if the 2 R9's have the 2 ccd shenanigan's again well we will see  

Wait for MSFS2024 benchmarking and see where the 9800X3D places amongst its competitors?

Certainly your current CPU needs to be thrown away/sold.

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I really thought i had overspec’d my current pc but wait a little while and all of a sudden all that extra hp is needed. Give it a year and my build will be just decent. 

That’s life of a pc gamer. 

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3 hours ago, Flyfaster_MTN002 said:

Hard to believe 32GB of RAM will be insufficient to run this thing maxed out... unless you run other programs congruently

Not totally hard for me.  Today I hit 30GB usage.  Granted I had other things going on in addition to my flight.  But if 2024 is even just a touch more than 2020, I get it.  

5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW  and 2  22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU,  360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next

His comment is also made from internal usage of MSFS 2024 with only their own assets that are also optimized for consoles. So if that is already starting to push 32GB to a point where you can't do much multi-tasking on the side, imagine once all the third party addons get thrown into the mix, with even heavier systems, more functionality, 4K and 8K textures and people running a lot of additional addons on top, then it doesn't sound too far fetched that the sim itself will be able to break past that 32GB barrier.

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RAM on!

Mr. and Mrs. McCartney...

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18 hours ago, Sethos said:

Make sure your FCLK and UCLK are 1:1, i.e divisible by your memory speed or you're essentially just making your setup slower / higher latency by only overclocking the speed of your RAM. Just in general with the X3Ds, once you move past 6000MT/s, you might actually see a drop-off in performance as 6000 in a 1:1 setup is probably the absolute sweet spot of the X3Ds. You are much better off getting optimized timings at 6000MT/s, with FCLK at 2000 / UCLK 3000.

Thanks, I didn't know this 🙂 I'll check my BIOS settings. 

EDIT: It doesn't look like it's 1:1 at the moment...

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7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

9 hours ago, Grindathotte said:

I was thinking of getting another 32 GB DDR5, then read about potential issues with 4 sticks.  I have just seen the developer stream where Sebastian Wloch said that more than 32 GB was only necessary if you are running other apps simultaneously, like recording.  I'll probably just hang on now and see how much it actually uses.

Yes, it's best to have exactly 2 sticks. 1 stick is slower. 4 sticks can cause problems.

cpu can be addressing memory in 2 different ways at the same time, if you have 2 sticks.

Edited by Fielder

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15 hours ago, sonny147 said:

ive given up on EXPO on AM 5 , never been able able to get my system stable with it , after 2 motherboards and x3 sets of ram still no stable expo. think its my 7800x3d thats the problem  because i cant even reach -30 with curve optimizer 

Goodness, that sounds expensive 💸

I had 32GB of DDR5 for my Intel build. It turned out that it wasn't compatible with my AM5 upgrade. So I needed to shell out for another set of 32GB DDR5. Which makes me reluctant to throw more money at RAM unless absolutely necessary. I'd rather have a holiday in Hawaii... Which btw is probably not that comparable to the price of 2x32 DDR5.

In terms of the curve optimizer, I've got -25 on CCD0 (the "cache" cores) but I had to disable the -10 CO on CCD1 ("frequency" cores) as I got instability (BSOD) issues when doing video editing. 

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

18 hours ago, Sethos said:

You are much better off getting optimized timings at 6000MT/s, with FCLK at 2000 / UCLK 3000.

How do I know what sort of timings to aim for at 6000MT/s?

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

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