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64 GB RAM ?

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  • Especially with DDR5 and AMD, there’s an advantage with 2 sticks vs 4. Basically with 4 sticks it might be hard to run at the same speed and timings. In extreme cases there could be instability issues

  • No one is actually claiming huge improvements.  Most of us are suggesting incremental improvements we weren't expecting adding to overall RAM consumption and MSFS RAM consumption and noticed less micr

I have 64 now and it made a big difference in stutters and performance.  This thing is memory hungry.  I have seen FS2020 use 28GB of RAM with GSX, FSLTL and 3rd party sceneries and the FENIX A320. 

In the other post "ideal PC" posted my Microsoft MSFS 2024 requires only 32G. I personally have 32G  at the moment. I think I'll wait until I get 2024 copy, and then will decide whether I should upgrade or not

Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASEL

My System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSD

Put my hands on (pic/dual/given)

7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22

 

13 minutes ago, Greazer said:

Is it really worth upgrading from 32 to 64 GB RAM?

How much RAM can FS2024 use ??

I guess we'll find out in 2 months.

Really it will take people like us (people reading this thread) to test this, because we are the people who will load up lots of AI and aftermarket stuff -- THAT will be the true test of whether or not we'll really need 64GB.

Rhett

7800X3D 96 GB G.Skill Flare  Gigabyte 4090  Crucial P5 Plus 2TB

I have 48 and will be ordering 48 more. 

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro

1 hour ago, sd_flyer said:

In the other post "ideal PC" posted my Microsoft MSFS 2024 requires only 32G. I personally have 32G  at the moment. I think I'll wait until I get 2024 copy, and then will decide whether I should upgrade or not

Not for ideal. It lists 64

 

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5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW  and 2  22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU,  360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next

I have 32. If I need 32 more, it's an easy upgrade.

MSFS

So in my new system I put in 2x 16GB sticks.  To go to 64 is there any advantage between going 2x 32GB over adding 2x more 16GB sticks?  MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WiFi AMD MOB w/AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D.

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
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41 minutes ago, fppilot said:

So in my new system I put in 2x 16GB sticks.  To go to 64 is there any advantage between going 2x 32GB over adding 2x more 16GB sticks?  MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WiFi AMD MOB w/AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D.

I asked my PC literate son this question today.  He said, technically, the 2x32 would be faster but I most likely wouldn't notice a difference and I should be just fine with 4x16.  Personally, I am just going to add 2 more sticks of 16.

9800X3D | RTX 5090 FE | X870E Aorus Pro | 64GB G.Skill DDR5 6000MT/s | WD Black 2TB NVMe

54 minutes ago, fppilot said:

So in my new system I put in 2x 16GB sticks.  To go to 64 is there any advantage between going 2x 32GB over adding 2x more 16GB sticks?  MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WiFi AMD MOB w/AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D.

Especially with DDR5 and AMD, there’s an advantage with 2 sticks vs 4. Basically with 4 sticks it might be hard to run at the same speed and timings. In extreme cases there could be instability issues.

If adding 2 extra sticks, they should at least match in terms of model/specs.

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

1 hour ago, micstatic said:

Not for ideal. It lists 64

 

 

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Strange! I thought I saw today 32. Did they change it?

Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASEL

My System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSD

Put my hands on (pic/dual/given)

7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22

 

I know this thread is about the memory size, but the display of the MSFS2024 spec requirements above gave me more concern than the need for higher memory. If I understand correctly it will be very server and internet dependant but to offset this I believe we will only have to download what is required. I guess this might help improve game start up times but it does raise questions about how this game will perform on the three internet speed options given. Stutters and delays are real immersion killers and while we expect 100Mbps will pretty well nullify that and 50Mbps will probably be mostly acceptable, with some exceptions, 10 Mbps sounds like a recipe for a stutter fest.  Clearly the program will run, but not well.  I suspect the majority of users will have no problems with internet speed with fibre around most of the world offering much more than 100 Mbps and at relatively cheap prices. However, a few of us have significant challenges with this. I am currently on a 20Mbps rural wireless which can be achieved on a perfect day but in most cases when others in the house are streaming this can drop to between 10 and 15Mbps. MSFS2020 runs 'acceptably' on this as it meets the following MSFS2020 internet specs:  Minimum for MSFS 2020 is 5 Mbps, 20 Mbps is recommended and 50 Mbps is ideal. So,  MSFS2024 minimum internet specs do not augur well for us rural and internet limited folk.

Some folk will just say you have to pay for a bigger plan.  For 50Mbps (likely to be 40-45Mbps most times) that's $US1871 per year or $NZ3000, more than double what I currently pay and the price of a reasonable computer! The same company offers 1000Mbps fibre for $US1044 per year !! I definitely live and work in the wrong place!!  The Minister of Finance will not approve and I wouldn't bother asking her for what is effectively just a game.  A memory upgrade to 64GB seems minor by comparison.

I doubt this will affect many around the world, but I was so looking forward to MSFS2024 especially the open world and AI tech that has been included but it seems this technology may still be out of reach for some of us until our broadband technology catches up and prices become more affordable.

Oh well, it is what it is. I will certainly be interested in people's actual experiences but in the meantime I still have lots to explore in MSFS2020 and may instead look more seriously at upgrading my computer and shifting to VR. 

Cheers

Terry

Edited by Lord Farringdon

No. No, Mav, this is not a good idea.

Sorry Goose, but it's time to buzz the tower!

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30 minutes ago, Lord Farringdon said:

I know this thread is about the memory size, but the display of the MSFS2024 spec requirements above gave me more concern than the need for higher memory. If I understand correctly it will be very server and internet dependant but to offset this I believe we will only have to download what is required.

What would be beneficial would be for MS/Asobo to provide a scale where users could configure the option of storage space vs speed of internet connection.

As I read all of this I have the over-sounding question of how MSFS will affect the xBox community. Not where I am at, not at all, power PC user here. But as I strive to provide independent user-to-user support for xBox users for a somewhat systems-testing addon aircraft model for MSFS 2020, I certainly wonder how xBox users, as a significant target audience for MS/Asobo, will fare with what we are reading about MS2024.

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

Just now, fppilot said:

What would be beneficial would be for MS/Asobo to provide a scale where users could configure the option of storage space vs speed of internet connection.

As I read all of this I have the over-sounding question of how MSFS 2024 will affect the xBox community. Not where I am at, not at all, power PC user here. But as I strive to provide independent user-to-user support for xBox users for a somewhat systems-testing addon aircraft model for MSFS 2020, I certainly wonder how xBox users, as a significant target audience for MS/Asobo, will fare with what we are reading about MS2024.

 

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

51 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Strange! I thought I saw today 32. Did they change it?

Maybe you accidentally read the MSFS2020 ideal spec?  Ideal was 32 for MSFS2020.  

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