2 hours ago, orchestra_nl said:

64 MB is a while ago.
But if you mean GB, the recommended spec is 32 GB RAM. 64GB is de ideal  spec.

Sorry I'm a dyslexic, so try to overlook these little typos in the future, you know what I meant anyway.

1 minute ago, Ixoye said:

Sorry I'm a dyslexic, so try to overlook these little typos in the future, you know what I meant anyway.

There is no need for you to feel threatened and certainly no need to say sorry. I could have made the same mistake, and I am an IT guy.
I only noticed the MB when I typed my response.

Anyway, what I meant is that 64GB is the ideal spec and not required. For those building a new PC it might be wise to get it, but if one has 32GB already it might be better to wait and see how it performs before adding RAM.

29 minutes ago, Ixoye said:

So for me it's about buying two new 32GB memory sticks and removing the cooler to be able to install them, and I'm definitely not looking forward to that.
I hope ASOBO comes up with an explanation soon as to why so much memory is needed.

As you said, having 4 sticks may hinder performance as well as stability. This has always been the case, especially with high performance RAM.

It is sensible to wait and see how MSFS2024 performs with "just" 32GB ram, and only add new ram if one sees that it could really benefit from that. If RAM prices were to rise that might be the only reason to expand the ram now.

I’ll wait and see if 32 is enough. If it turns out that the page file starts to get used significantly, I’ll probably take the plunge. Hopefully by then there’s not going to be a global RAM shortage due to MSFS2024

1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I’ll wait and see if 32 is enough. If it turns out that the page file starts to get used significantly, I’ll probably take the plunge. Hopefully by then there’s not going to be a global RAM shortage due to MSFS2024

I am buying 48 as soon as i get home. I think memory prices are going up and will be harder to get. 

Someone here mentioned that 64G RAM allow him to run current version MSFS smoother. After upgrading my memory for 64G I have noticed the same and not only. Not I'm able to run heavy frame eater airliners such as MD-11 with terrain details level and object details level sliders all the way to the right ! Before upgrade I used to be able to set them to 150! So I definitely  seeing benefit of upgrading!  

5 minutes ago, RobJC said:

I am buying 48 as soon as i get home. I think memory prices are going up and will be harder to get. 

What indications do you see for this to happen? I am genuinely curious, because last year there were several articles on the internet about rising RAM prices and that 'now" was the time to purchase ram. Prices did not rise significantly though and have been quite stable until now. Perhaps now it is different but I am just curious why.
 

9 minutes ago, RobJC said:

I am buying 48 as soon as i get home. I think memory prices are going up and will be harder to get. 

They will be if every potential user of MSFS 2024 rushes out to buy 64 or 96GB RAM at the slightest whiff of the term "ideal".

9 minutes ago, orchestra_nl said:

What indications do you see for this to happen? I am genuinely curious, because last year there were several articles on the internet about rising RAM prices and that 'now" was the time to purchase ram. Prices did not rise significantly though and have been quite stable until now. Perhaps now it is different but I am just curious why.
 

Reminds me of a funny (to me) story from 30 years ago.  I was in a Computer City (don't know if they are still around or not, it was a big box brick and mortar computer store in the late 80's early 90's) and the salesman kept repeating this phrase loudly, "THERE'S GONNA BE A RUN ON RAM!!"  "A RUN ON RAM!!"  "A RUN ON RAM!"

I guess he thought he had some gullible kids (me, and my computer-building buddies, who were only about 18-19 at the time).

Now whenever I see threads like this I think of that guy -- THERE'S GONNA BE A RUN ON RAM!  (o-m-g)  😝 and we'll have dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria.

If I go 64 I suppose I'll need to turn back on mem retraining in my BIOS.  At least temporarily. 

From a technical standpoint, does anyone know if DX12 uses all available VRAM as well as system RAM?

While testing MSFS 2020 with the DX12 setting, I saw VRAM & System RAM used more than with DX11. That's using dev mode and show FPS.

Just wondering if that's the reason why we will need more system RAM.

This was addressed on the stream today. The sim should run well with 32 GB, unless you have other programs open at the same time, which many of us here would. So for those who have a web browser open with many tabs and other programs like Navigraph, SimToolkitPro, FSHud, BATC, etc., 64 GB of RAM will come in handy.

1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

They will be if every potential user of MSFS 2024 rushes out to buy 64 or 96GB RAM at the slightest whiff of the term "ideal".

Roughly 240 million PC's sold annually last time I saw a Gartner number.  A couple of million MSFS gamers ordering RAM isn't going to shift that market... 

UPS, wrong threat.

Edited September 25, 20241 yr by Merawen

47 minutes ago, psolk said:

Roughly 240 million PC's sold annually last time I saw a Gartner number.  A couple of million MSFS gamers ordering RAM isn't going to shift that market... 

Yeah, there ain't no way a small subset of people looking to upgrade RAM, within an already niche community is going to do anything.

Despite Seb’s comment re: 64GB, it remains to be seen if 2024 + lots of background apps will eat up 32GB. Like I mentioned earlier in this thread, I’ve seen up to 28GB total RAM use with 2020, so I guess it’s not unlikely to happen in 2024.