Finally installed my pre purchased copy of MSFS2024 this weekend.

Wanting to ensure that the sim was configured properly (installed on its own E: drive NVME, Cache & Community in custom directories on the same drive ) i briefed myself with a video or two and went ahead with the install. The installation process was smooth and the customization wasn't too bad to complete. Server performance was good for the installation and got my custom folders up and running. Cant complain.

Set up my GPU framegen and applied my usual gpu overclock to the game profile which was auto detected by my graphics card driver. Works no issue .. great! (Thank You AMD!)

Startup i would say is in the same realm as my FS2020 startup but once i've selected my flight and hit fly now that part is faster (Again.. light aircraft and mid level airport) not bad.

We all know the lighting, ground control and general flight characteristics have been improved and i enjoyed it immensely.

After that was done i tested a few aircraft to see how the streaming system worked. Mind you i stayed well clear of the major airports for these tests. Looks like the servers are finally serving (as opposed to my prior experience with the dumpster fire tech alpha) With one exception ..   some pop up about the AI servers not working every few minutes .. AI is working though .. even possibly too much ai plus  ai in the wrong places.

Again the controllers and its setup was the primary sore point this weekend. The interface to get these bindings done suck ... cant say it any other way. Anyways, once that surgery was done i can see myself using this sim for some nice GA ops.

I want to try career mode but i don't want to be disappointed with people sticking out of planes and the other meme style bugs that come with it so i think ill stick to free flight till SU1 before i start that mode.

But yeah .. free flight + General Aviation seems to be the safest combination for me right now. The new flight model / visuals and wx improvements are worth it.

 

Still doing my commercial /cargo ops in MSFS2020 though. I need that stable platform for my sanity but i definitely will be moving the Comanche over to the new sim.

Looking forward to see how quickly MSOBO are able to squash bugs and deliver relative stability.

Also looking forward to see AIG + GAIST traffic and the PMDG products in the sim. I think those are my requirements to start doing heavy ops in the new sim even though i can use the Fenix products and Inibuilds A300 now

For me who primarily flies the tubeliners  i feel as if we aren't quite "cooking with gas" yet but its certainly on its way. (When the server is serving of course)

Just a few observations  and comments i wanted to share

Cheers

5 hours ago, Maxis said:

Also looking forward to see AIG + GAIST traffic and the PMDG products in the sim. I think those are my requirements to start doing heavy ops in the new sim even though i can use the Fenix products and Inibuilds A300 now

I've done lots of airliner flights (iniBuilds Airbuses and the Fenix A32x) + FSHud ATC with ATC models. Works like a charm. I think others are using BATC with FSLTL successfully, but I'm not 100% sure as I don't use this combo. 

6 hours ago, Maxis said:

I want to try career mode but i don't want to be disappointed with people sticking out of planes and the other meme style bugs that come with it so i think ill stick to free flight till SU1 before i start that mode.

But yeah .. free flight + General Aviation seems to be the safest combination for me right now. The new flight model / visuals and wx improvements are worth it.

Just steer clear of Career Mode for maybe one or two Sim Updates, depending on how tolerant you are of bugs.  Even after Sim Update 1, there will still be some bugs in Career Mode.  If you are really intolerant of bugs, you may have to wait until Sim Update 3 or so, before Career Mode is really on a good track.  Personally, I played about 10 flights with Career Mode and I am okay with the bugs that I encountered, but then again, I am more bug tolerant than other simmers here at Avsim.

To prevent the data from being streamed a second time, you can also expand your rolling cache.  If you have the space, I think setting even 40 GB for Rolling Cache is okay, as it may prevent the data from being streamed the second time you fly over an area you flew over before (but of course, you can't prevent the data from being streamed the first time you fly over it).

1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I think others are using BATC with FSLTL successfully, but I'm not 100% sure as I don't use this combo. 

Works well. I'm using AIG too.

7 hours ago, Maxis said:

For me who primarily flies the tubeliners  i feel as if we aren't quite "cooking with gas" yet

I have completed flights with the Fenix A320 and the Just Flight RJ, all working well.

3 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I have completed flights with the Fenix A320 and the Just Flight RJ, all working well.

Im sure they work great but its not the aircraft that im most concerned about. The most responsible and dependable aircraft devs will take care of their products and ensure everything is working and stable. Its the other factors im concerned about outside of their control. primarily for now the AI aircraft and ships ATC  and how well the airports are modelled in the sim. Tons of airports to fly in and out of so meh i can let that one go if i encounter a few bad ones but the AI for me is a showstopper. Asobos models look decent but flight and taxi logic, airline placement etc needs to be completely trashed and redone. I also wonder if they have improved on the gates placement at airports.  I have also not touched the ATC as yet so i cannot comment on that to see if it has improved.

2 minutes ago, Maxis said:

I have also not touched the ATC as yet so i cannot comment on that to see if it has improved.

I suggest punting on the Asobo ATC and go for something like FSHUD or BATC.

5 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I've done lots of airliner flights (iniBuilds Airbuses and the Fenix A32x) + FSHud ATC with ATC models. Works like a charm. I think others are using BATC with FSLTL successfully, but I'm not 100% sure as I don't use this combo. 

Thanks for the recommendation. Ill probably evaluate BATC in a few months. I am hoping we can still get the bog standard AIG TC working in the new sim though.

12 hours ago, Maxis said:

But yeah .. free flight + General Aviation seems to be the safest combination for me right now. The new flight model / visuals and wx improvements are worth it.

This is pretty much how I have been using the sim over the past couple of weeks, now that I had a little more time, and I agree at this level it is working very well. Free flight in a GA aircraft has worked very well, and the sim has been quick to load, no blurriness and no crashes, it has been remarkably stable. The three aircraft I have used are the Comanche, the 414 and the COWS DA42, so no streamed aircraft. I decided to  completely ignore any of the career and mission stuff, it never interested me all that much anyway, and I have not done any heavy operations, as I do not want at this stage to introduce all the supplementary tools that I would want to do perform that kind of flying. I have kept it simple and am trying to learn what works and at what level and so far I am impressed.

The next thing to tackle is to get rid of the AI traffic and replace it with FSLTL, because I am getting tired of all the B737 parked at small airstrips and crashing into gliders taxing off the runway! 

1 hour ago, Maxis said:

Its the other factors im concerned about outside of their control. primarily for now the AI aircraft

Ok, I'm using BATC with AIG and FSLTL models which are all working OK.

Yes AI is not great at all but with BATC it’s great. I know buying more software is a pain, but in this case I do make an exception since it really does work great and $30 one time is really worth it for what you get. 
 

I do share your hope that they fix the native AI fast, but I’m not waiting for that. Fenix and the ini planes work great so I’m covered for non-Boeing airline ops. 
 

I’ve been using APLv2 and having a great time 

13 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I've done lots of airliner flights (iniBuilds 

Have you experienced any issues with the IniBuilds A320neo/A321 not always showing the top of descent on the nav display or picking up the glide slope?

I'm experiencing these issues but unsure if it's a bug or something i'm doing wrong.

3 minutes ago, CBass said:

Have you experienced any issues with the IniBuilds A320neo/A321 not always showing the top of descent on the nav display or picking up the glide slope?

Not that I can remember. I haven't flown them that much though - usually I fly the Fenix A32x. 

On 12/30/2024 at 7:19 AM, BrammyH said:

I suggest punting on the Asobo ATC and go for something like FSHUD or BATC.

I read no significant changes initially for ATC in 2024 but that it's on the docket.  My sense is with some AI speech and some modest improvements default ATC could be at least decent.  That might take a year or more so my plan is to try BATC w/ FSLTL pretty soon.   

The voices, the interface ATC menu choice hierarchy scheme, overall awareness , the directions given to me in the air and on the ground, in the default Asobo ATC all seems better to me compared to 2020. Only slightly better but in lots of ways.

In the last update to 2024, they listed over 600 bugs eliminated, altogether in the sim.

Jorg doesn't have to run so fast, the customers aren't as angry...