6 hours ago, kerosene31 said:

I'm just genuinely puzzled as to why people are having such varying experiences.  2024 is my only sim and I am simply not running into bugs.  I'm sure there are many, but I'm not running into them like others are.  

I just flew the COWS Da 42 a bunch of free flights.  The only "issue" is the 2024 pilots not loading (super common in 2020 aircraft ported over).  Otherwise, every system works as I remember it and it flies as well as before.  

No stutters, no crashes.  Weather is improved and the visuals are better on my system to where there's not even any doubt.  

Now, the one thing I have done is to check the compatibility of EVERY addon I load into 2024 for compatibility.  If the developer isn't talking about 2024 yet or mentioned compatibility, I hold off.  Simple as that.  

We were told "everything will work!" - obviously that is not the case.  Stop trying to copy all your addons in from 2020.  A little bit of research goes a long way.  I'm also loading scenery and a few aircraft only.  The only utilities are shift-z and Navigraph charts (both working in 2024).  

I haven't changed my rolling cache size or much else from default.  Granted I bought myself a high end PC this Black Friday, so I'm running ultra high at 60+ fps.  

The other thing - I am using free flight only.  I've only flown a few flights in career mode.  That seems buggy at best.  I have little interest in a mode that locks me into defaut aircraft anyway.  

Yeah, i don’t get it either. My high end PC and 2.5Gbps  internet connection work great in 2020, but tons of people are experiencing CTDs in 2024. One thing strange today is 2020 never looked better for me. Everything was artifact free and just sharp. I guess the good news is i can just use it until things get sorted with 2024. Btw, my 2024 install is vanilla. I am not trying to add anything extra to the mix. 

On 1/11/2025 at 2:36 AM, jarmstro said:

...I don't recall, not with any sim upgrade including XP, being told  that all my addons would work so pay up! Only to find that they don't!😂 But it's fine. All will be well in the end I've no doubt.

Austin Meyer said the very same thing before v12 launched. And he was wrong, too.

On 1/11/2025 at 5:57 AM, CO2Neutral said:

5 years later, unplug my tiller and still CTD, even P3D could handle a USB device drop … I’m just being picking after 2 hour flight and on approach get a CTD because I unplugged my tiller. 

a. Why in the HECK would you EVER unplug a connected device, especially one that's in-use by the active software, ESPECIALLY software that's as resource intensive as a modern flight simulator?

You're ASKING for trouble.

b. That said, my TrackIR occasionally disconnects itself across multiple sims, and I'm forced to unplug/re-plug while the sim is running. Never had an issue.

3 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

This claptrap is truly over the top...smh.

ALL developers said they had NO IDEA if their addons would work straight away on v2024. Every. Single. One. (other than iniBuilds and other "insiders" developing Defaults for v2024).

Asobo has exactly ZERO obligation to test ANY addon for compatibility, let alone the "expensive and popular" ones.

YOU DO. YOU are the one who bought the addon for a different, older version of the simulator. YOU are the one who needs to ensure your Third Party software is ready for prime time on a new sim platform before you jump into the new simulator.

All those "expensive" addons we buy are software products NOT developed by Asobo. They are simulators in and of themselves, and it is up to the particular 3PD's to code well in the first place.

And if you've been simming for as long as you say, then you shame on you for asserting anything else, because you surely should know BETTER.

It's ALWAYS a word not allowed shoot as to whether any particular addon will work in the next major version of the sim. We see it in every single flight sim major release: MSFS, X-Plane, Prepar3D, DCS World, etc).

Some addons work just fine, some don't work at all.

What it comes down to is how well the 3PD's hew to the development framework. Thus you have devs like iniBuilds, Fenix, FS Reborn, Got Friends, A2A Sims, Top Mach Studios, CAS, Flight FX, and yes, even Just Flight's RJ (and Vulcan) and a constantly growing list of others who are rapidly coming onboard the new platform.

"Should" MS/Asobo have shared private dev builds with at least the most prominent 3PD's...? Yes, absolutely.

BUT what's TRULY "astonishing" is that 3PD's like PMDG continue to code any old way they want to, and then when that old dog habit bites them hard, they (and SOME of their customers) have the unmitigated gall to blame Asobo. Geez - talk about the Pots calling the Kettle, "black"...

Any one of us who went into this truly expecting ANY addon was going to work seamlessly on Day One is lacking critical thinking skills.

Meanwhile, Asobo included a MINIMUM of SEVENTY addons for us to fly, plus literally dozens more with the upgraded versions of the sim. And at least as far as the genuinely new v2024 Defaults, they are all VERY well executed addons delivering payware-quality experiences.

I haven't even had the time to try all the new ones, let alone get bored with them. I'm so busy experiencing all the new sim has to offer that I barely care that PMDG, et al. can't figure out how to make their stuff work properly (which problem is their self-inflicted wound, anyway).

The only reason I re-installed v2020 was so that I could take advantage of the holiday sale prices. I've since cranked it up once or twice, but I find it rather unsatisfying now that I've spent so much time in v2024. I.e., I'm having a better, more immersive time in v2024 with all the "cheap", included addons flying in a vastly improved digital world that I just don't miss PMDG, et al.

I mean, if you can't enjoy all the new stuff the sim has to offer while you wait just a short time for your favorite devs to update their addons for compatibility, I'm simply flabbergasted...

Nice rant. Thoroughly enjoyed it.😂

5 hours ago, jarmstro said:

Nice rant. Thoroughly enjoyed it.😂

Mate I told you 10 pages ago to refund the product and move on, you chose to ignore that continuing to complaining for the next 10 pages, surely the irony has dawned upon you here right? From what I'm seeing you didn't really want a resolution to your problem, you just wanted to complain for the sake of it, especially in a forum which Asobo doesn't use for feedback.

1 minute ago, Lucky38i said:

Mate I told you 10 pages ago to refund the product and move on, you chose to ignore that continuing to complaining for the next 10 pages, surely the irony has dawned upon you here right? From what I'm seeing you didn't really want a resolution to your problem, you just wanted to complain for the sake of it, especially in a forum which Asobo doesn't use for feedback.

What? I've said that the thing that gets my goat is not being made fully aware that the majority of my favourite airliners don't work. That's it. That's all I have to moan about, nothing else. I've also said its no big deal! 

1 hour ago, Lucky38i said:

Mate I told you 10 pages ago to refund the product and move on, you chose to ignore that continuing to complaining for the next 10 pages, surely the irony has dawned upon you here right? From what I'm seeing you didn't really want a resolution to your problem, you just wanted to complain for the sake of it, especially in a forum which Asobo doesn't use for feedback.

Maybe stop feeding the troll now? This obviously will not be resolved here.

8 hours ago, jarmstro said:

 the thing that gets my goat is not being made fully aware that the majority of my favourite airliners don't work. That's it. That's all I have to moan about, nothing else. 

Nobody told you there would be Rush Hour traffic today, either.

Why act so surprised and offended when reality dares to intrude on your full awareness...?