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Auto Ortho alternative

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Anyone using this?

 

 

Edited by jcomm

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Following, as I had never heard of this before, thanks for bringing it to my attention.

I notice that it uses the base scenery download from autoortho, I don't know what that does in either program.

I have auto ortho, and only use it when flying along with my own or others generated higher quality stuff.  I'm thinking that when I heard him say ARC base, this is interesting as ARC are very protectionist of their satellite data, I have been kicked off their servers several times because I used too much of a download of their tiles.

I will have to check this out.

Bryan

Bryan Wallis aka "fltsimguy"

Maple Bay, British Columbia

Near CAM3

I have it installed and it works great.  It’s free to use but you can only set it to medium quality.  For the high setting you have to pay 5.00 a month or 40.00 a year.  It loads up fast about two minutes after starting the flight.

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Lo he estado usando durante bastante tiempo para las áreas donde no tengo cobertura ortho4xp.

I have been using this for some time for areas I don't have covered with Ortho4XP

Edited by tonywob
Translated to English: Please only write in English on this forum

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6 hours ago, dufus01 said:

I have it installed and it works great.  It’s free to use but you can only set it to medium quality.  For the high setting you have to pay 5.00 a month or 40.00 a year.  It loads up fast about two minutes after starting the flight.

That does not sound legal :ph34r:, it sounds like the program is taking Bing/Arc's imagery and then charging a monthly subscription to use higher resolution. I'm amazed the developer is getting away with it

12 hours ago, tonywob said:

Eso no suena legal  :ph34r:, parece que el programa está tomando las imágenes de Bing/Arc y luego cobrando una suscripción mensual para usar una resolución más alta. Me sorprende que el desarrollador se salga con la suya.

He has  years getting away with it is a widely used program in MFS.

Bing,Arc, Google Maps, Apple, mapbox...

Edited by Aglos77

11 hours ago, tonywob said:

That does not sound legal :ph34r:, it sounds like the program is taking Bing/Arc's imagery and then charging a monthly subscription to use higher resolution. I'm amazed the developer is getting away with it

As I see it, the program just locks an API request for higher zoom levels of any downloaded imagery behind its paywall. That's as if O4XP Free only supported zoom levels up to 13 unless you bought O4XP Pro which supports ZLs up to 19.

I dug around some more:

  • Even if the program is nothing more than an enhanced AutoOrtho, the only issue with legality is that the author apparently does not include a copy of the original license (Apache 2.0) for any unmodified bits of original code - which are buried somewhere within the excutable file.
  • The base package aparently uses a (modified?) AutoOrtho base scenery ("_ao_" in filenames), which is not licensed. But I wouldn't rate that as a big deal as the original AO base scenery is also merely a worldwide O4XP generated scenery, without the textures.

Not worth fussing over.

The only thing interested users should ask themselves is if a commercialized "AutoOrtho+" is worth $40 a year.

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1 hour ago, Bjoern said:

As I see it, the program just locks an API request for higher zoom levels of any downloaded imagery behind its paywall. That's as if O4XP Free only supported zoom levels up to 13 unless you bought O4XP Pro which supports ZLs up to 19.

I dug around some more:

  • Even if the program is nothing more than an enhanced AutoOrtho, the only issue with legality is that the author apparently does not include a copy of the original license (Apache 2.0) for any unmodified bits of original code - which are buried somewhere within the excutable file.
  • The base package aparently uses a (modified?) AutoOrtho base scenery ("_ao_" in filenames), which is not licensed. But I wouldn't rate that as a big deal as the original AO base scenery is also merely a worldwide O4XP generated scenery, without the textures.

Not worth fussing over.

The only thing interested users should ask themselves is if a commercialized "AutoOrtho+" is worth $40 a year.

Thank you for this summary, very helpful...humm 5$ a month

Bryan Wallis aka "fltsimguy"

Maple Bay, British Columbia

Near CAM3

That's the worst instructional video ever! FWIW, https://github.com/derekhe/xplane-map-enhancement-release/wiki/Manual-EN might help. Also, see https://x-plane.to/file/1559/x-plane-map-enhancement

I use AutoOrtho and am currently downloading / installing Map Enhancer.

I have no idea how X Organizer is gong to react!

 

Edited by The_Flying_Potato

Just wonder why none is making stream Orthodox texture over default mesh, which is much better than the AO mesh now. and no need for download and keep another 50G+ of file.

Edited by C2615

9 hours ago, Bjoern said:

En mi opinión, el programa simplemente bloquea una solicitud de API para niveles de zoom más altos de cualquier imagen descargada detrás de su muro de pago. Es como si O4XP Free solo admitiera niveles de zoom de hasta 13, a menos que hayas comprado O4XP Pro, que admite niveles de zoom de hasta 19.

Busqué un poco más:

  • Incluso si el programa no es más que un AutoOrtho mejorado, el único problema de legalidad es que el autor aparentemente no incluye una copia de la licencia original ( Apache 2.0 ) para los fragmentos no modificados del código original, que están enterrados en algún lugar dentro del archivo ejecutable.
  • El paquete base aparentemente utiliza un escenario base AutoOrtho (¿modificado?) ("_ao_" en los nombres de archivo), que no tiene licencia. Pero no lo consideraría un gran problema, ya que el escenario base AO original también es simplemente un escenario generado por O4XP en todo el mundo, sin las texturas.

No vale la pena preocuparse por eso.

Lo único que deberían preguntarse los usuarios interesados es si un “AutoOrtho+” comercializado vale 40 dólares al año.

It is much better than auto ortho, but whether to pay 40 will depend on each individual, like everything else. 

I prefer to invest in storage and unload my own orthos to free my processor load but you have to recognize that map enhacement does a very good job in x-plane and MFS (separate purchases).

Yes I agree...map enhancement is a game changer for xplane 12... it's brilliant!

16 hours ago, C2615 said:

Just wonder why none is making stream Orthodox texture over default mesh, which is much better than the AO mesh now. and no need for download and keep another 50G+ of file.

Because it's frankly not possible, otherwise it would have been done long ago.

Edited by Bjoern

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