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How to view the config files of default planes in MSFS 2024

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Here's default c185 view after hitting F to reset the view. And there is no way to use the "translate" or "look" keyboard keys to get a view to see over the cockpit dash to the runway better. It can't be done.

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But after text editing the cameras.cfg file to something I like more and see the runway:

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The bottom two lines I edited in my cameras.cfg file that gives this view is: its the only way to get a view of the runway from the C-185 cockpit.

InitialXyz= -0.239775, 0.62514, 0.127
InitialPbh= -21.669849, -0, 0.027976

 

 

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  • MattNischan
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    It is, yes. If you make a devmode project, include the files you wish to have changed, then you can build the project and it will be mounted. You can also export the project into a package and put tha

  • MattNischan
    MattNischan

    That's correct, yes. Just as in MSFS 2020, any file in community will overwrite any other file in the VFS, no matter the package source (encrypted, streamed, both, neither).

  • GACSavannah
    GACSavannah

    1. Navigate to the installed simulator directory (Mine is (My user directory)\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.Limitless_8wekyb3d8bbwe\) 2. Dig into there to find LocalCache\SimObjects\Airplanes\

The views Carenado setup are like a child's view who isn't tall enough to see over the dashboard. In a real plane you would change the seat or bring a cushion to be able to fly the plane well.

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6 hours ago, Fielder said:

The views Carenado setup are like a child's view who isn't tall enough to see over the dashboard. In a real plane you would change the seat or bring a cushion to be able to fly the plane well.

Silly question but can't you use tap the space bar to move up quickly? Think that was default in 2020. I take it you can't change the viewpoint and save Ifr /vfr views with ctrl f9 /10 like in 2020? 

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14 hours ago, MattNischan said:

It is, yes. If you make a devmode project, include the files you wish to have changed, then you can build the project and it will be mounted. You can also export the project into a package and put that into your community folder.

Thanks Matt. Just to be clear, are you saying that you CAN open, say, a flight model cfg file that normally appears encrypted, edit it then save it into the community folder (presumably with an updated Layout Json etc? And that edited file will now act as a current/over-ride cfg file even with non locally saved, cloud based aircraft?

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14 hours ago, MattNischan said:

It is, yes. If you make a devmode project, include the files you wish to have changed, then you can build the project and it will be mounted. You can also export the project into a package and put that into your community folder.

Thanks Matt. Just to be clear, are you saying that you CAN open, say, a flight model cfg file that normally appears encrypted, edit it then save it into the community folder (presumably with an updated Layout Json etc)? And that edited file will now act as a current/over-ride cfg file even with non locally saved, cloud based aircraft?

Robert Young - retired full time developer - see my Nexus Mod Page and my GitHub Mod page

4 hours ago, robert young said:

And that edited file will now act as a current/over-ride cfg file even with non locally saved, cloud based aircraft?

That's correct, yes. Just as in MSFS 2020, any file in community will overwrite any other file in the VFS, no matter the package source (encrypted, streamed, both, neither).

35 minutes ago, MattNischan said:

That's correct, yes. Just as in MSFS 2020, any file in community will overwrite any other file in the VFS, no matter the package source (encrypted, streamed, both, neither).

Excellent. That's pretty good news! Thank you.

Robert Young - retired full time developer - see my Nexus Mod Page and my GitHub Mod page

13 hours ago, Fielder said:

Here's default c185 view after hitting F to reset the view. And there is no way to use the "translate" or "look" keyboard keys to get a view to see over the cockpit dash to the runway better. It can't be done.

So when you hit Shift-Q or Shift-E, the camera doesnt' move? Or are you saying it does move, but then it snaps back to the default when you change the views, and you need it set to this by default?

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1 hour ago, JonathanC said:

So when you hit Shift-Q or Shift-E, the camera doesnt' move? Or are you saying it does move, but then it snaps back to the default when you change the views, and you need it set to this by default?

Shift e and Shift q both work and move the camera. But it does not move enough to see over the dash. I can't imagine why Carenado set up the camera views like that. 

What I did was to text edit the camera.cfg file to move the camera up to what I knew would be a ridiculously high point, and then boot up msfs 2024 and move the camera down to a good position (shift q) and save it as a custom view.

Next I went back into camera.cfg file and removed the ridiculously high camera lines, leaving only the nice view camera lines that I had just created as a custom view in camera.cfg file.

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7 hours ago, sloppysmusic said:

Silly question but can't you use tap the space bar to move up quickly? Think that was default in 2020. I take it you can't change the viewpoint and save Ifr /vfr views with ctrl f9 /10 like in 2020? 

The viewpoint can be changed with keyboard keys just like in 2020. But there is a limit. At the extreme limit the camera is still way too low to see over the dashboard. So you can't create a good custom view enabling you to see. But it is simple although time consuming by editing the .cfg file. But then it's done.

I always assigned my custom views to numlock keys 0 through 9 in every flight simulator going back in time.

EDIT: There is no limit on camera position in the .cfg file. You can make a view 20 feet above the top of the plane if you wanted to.

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I just don't understand the 2024 file system, maybe I just need to look into it more. 

Also, why the heck did they get rid of the "quick reload" in dev mode, when I create my mods in 2020 I use that religiously to check my changes, now the only way to check (in 2024) is a complete sim re start, that is extremely inefficient and basically kills modding.  

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Ok, silly question, but some of you seem to have figured it out so I'll ask. How do you get said C-185? Marketplace still doesn't work in 2024, and I am not seeing it in my 2020 files that can be loaded. Are those of you that already have it simply part of the Beta and thus have early access to it?

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1 hour ago, GACSavannah said:

Ok, silly question, but some of you seem to have figured it out so I'll ask. How do you get said C-185? Marketplace still doesn't work in 2024, and I am not seeing it in my 2020 files that can be loaded. Are those of you that already have it simply part of the Beta and thus have early access to it?

Came with the last update .(Beta)

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