I'm sure Microsoft is devastated to be losing customers... to itself.  🙂

1 hour ago, lwt1971 said:

Despite the many predictions made for us by some around here about how this is going to tank MS/Asobo

They're really hoping so to teach those terrible lame developers that ruined their lives a lesson 😶  Umm, how was it again that MSFS dominates market share by a nautical thousand miles?

2 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

Despite the many predictions made for us by some around here about how this is going to tank MS/Asobo, they are sitting pretty at 77%, with most of the major 3rd party devs developing exclusively for their platforms. Not a bad position to be in 🤷‍♂️
 

I honestly wasn't expecting a market share increase from last year, which was 70.8%, given the poor launch of MSFS 2024.  I was expecting maybe close to 70.8%, or even less than 70.8% market share when this Navigraph survey was released.  So I am very surprised they gained total market share after the poor launch of MSFS 2024.

4 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

Depending on how one looks at these numbers, one can always find a way to interpret them as bad for MS/Asobo, or good, or anything in-between. But again it's good to look at the results in the grand scheme of things:

1. A good sample size of Navigraph users were polled (23K).. so it's safe to say the results represent the views of non-casual/serious simmers who're bound to invest in the platform and purchase high fidelity add-ons (as seen per the top add-ons results). Yes they're bound to be airliner simmers, but still.
2. ~77% prefer the MSFS platform overall, 52% on 2020, and 25% on 2024 ... next (3rd) platform in the rankings is XP12 with 11.6% (so the main competition for 2020 and 2024 are each other)
3. 2020 is obviously still holding its own, which speaks to how good and mature of a sim it is
4. 2024, at five months old, despite the launch fiasco, despite having being released too early with too many bugs, is at second place with 25% (and of course perhaps that's due in part to the amount of fixes in SU1 and/or SU2).
5. As 2024 matures with more SUs and fixes/enhancements in the coming months, it is obviously going to be the top sim in the MSFS ecosystem, and all add-on devs will transition to only developing for that
6. As 2024 matures and more of the important add-ons become native/compatible for it, most of the current 2020 users are obviously going to transition to that

So looking at above points, I just don't see how there would be any sort of major turmoil over at MS/Asobo 🙂. Yes, 2024 could be doing better given it was their second go at a major sim release and with all the investment poured in so far.. but then given all the launch mess-ups, the bad press, it could be much worse. And for being 5 months old, is this such a doom & gloom result? Despite the many predictions made for us by some around here about how this is going to tank MS/Asobo, they are sitting pretty at 77%, with most of the major 3rd party devs developing exclusively for their platforms. Not a bad position to be in 🤷‍♂️
 

YOU see, Len - THIS is the sensible way to look at things!

16 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

The Steam data  shows 2024  users declining month by month, that is a "trend". 

You do realize the very same data shows v2020 usage declining, as well...?

9 hours ago, Mike T said:

In your haste to ramble with pseudo-intellectual jibberish, you typed all that nonsense to agree with what I said in the first place. The survey has no statistical validity; it's just a survey, and people are reading way too much into it.

There, I helped you across the finish line - you're welcome.

Yawn.

8 hours ago, Mike T said:

You're going to upset many tens of thousands of statisticians and Ph.Ds (social scientists), who are all somehow confused that stats is a science. I guess we can always go back to school and learn Physics per your advice. But IF I learn Physics, THEN can I pull the "Science" Card?

 

Now I know you're a statistician because you're throwing out Red Herrings left and right.

If you disagree with the Navigraph team themselves, then you're just showing your own bias.