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Poor initial thoughts on X-Plane

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Does any one actually care about his opinion. Only here to push buttons.

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29 minutes ago, mjrhealth said:

Does any one actually care about his opinion. Only here to push buttons.

 Not really.  Only when his opinions are valid.  He does have some valid opinions, but some are just exaggerated.

@Greazer Is it cumulus variants that are bothering you?  One thing I noticed about you is that you love moving the goal posts.  You said you want sharper outlines.  I posted a photo of cumulus that closely resemble what is in XP12.  Does your photo show sharper outlines?  Sure it does.  Does my photo show blurry outlines?  Absolutely.  Are they both cumulus?  Definitely.  My point?  You want a specific detail on cumulus clouds, and considering Laminar are still working on the current beta, they may come out with the clouds you want.  

Perhaps your approach could be a little more tactful.  ie. Instead of making comments like "Cumulus clouds need sharper outlines.  I'm not impressed." try "I would love to see different variants of the different types of clouds, like cumulus with sharper outlines."

Your comment will be received a lot better, and you won't come off as arrogant or narcissistic.  

Practise some humility.

I personally love X-Plane but they really need to sort out shimmering/aliasing, it really is bothering.
I am on a 48" 4k 120hz OLED and the shimmering/AA is horrible.

 

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5 minutes ago, sultanofswing said:

I personally love X-Plane but they really need to sort out shimmering/aliasing, it really is bothering.
I am on a 48" 4k 120hz OLED and the shimmering/AA is horrible.

 

I'm curious which GPU you have.  

From what I've seen, this looks like it's an nvidia issue.  I run XP on a Mac, and have seen no shimmering at all.  Even my AA looks good.  

3 minutes ago, GoranM said:

I'm curious which GPU you have.  

From what I've seen, this looks like it's an nvidia issue.  I run XP on a Mac, and have seen no shimmering at all.  Even my AA looks good.  

I am on a 4090.
What size is your display?

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14 minutes ago, sultanofswing said:

I am on a 4090.
What size is your display?

The Macbook Pro is 16 inch, but I connected it to my Aorus 43", 4K monitor via a display port cable.  

44 minutes ago, sultanofswing said:

I personally love X-Plane but they really need to sort out shimmering/aliasing, it really is bothering.

The graphics engine is so old by now, they can only make minor tweaks. It should all be replaced but I don't see it happening. There is simply no motion vectors, so frame gen not possible. FSR3 or DLSS upscaling not possible. Smooth antialiasing not possible. Ray tracing? Forget it! 

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1 hour ago, GoranM said:

Only when his opinions are valid

Hes not here for that reason, the pot has being stirred, wont go away now.

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20 minutes ago, Greazer said:

The graphics engine is so old by now, they can only make minor tweaks. It should all be replaced but I don't see it happening. There is simply no motion vectors, so frame gen not possible. FSR3 or DLSS upscaling not possible. Smooth antialiasing not possible. Ray tracing? Forget it! 

@Ianrivaldosmith  I'll leave it to you to show him where the FSR function is in XP12...again.

1 minute ago, mjrhealth said:

Hes not here for that reason, the pot has being stirred, wont go away now.

He's been banished from the MSFS forums.  😉

2 minutes ago, GoranM said:

He's been banished from the MSFS forums.  😉

Than we have no hope??

1 hour ago, sultanofswing said:

I personally love X-Plane but they really need to sort out shimmering/aliasing, it really is bothering.
I am on a 48" 4k 120hz OLED and the shimmering/AA is horrible.

 

I actually dont have an issue with AA but in release notes

  • Cloud flickering may still occur in some situations
  • Cloud shadows can appear too dark under certain conditions
  • Cloud artifacts may still be visible in same cases

Actually dont have issue with AA as for clouds well aware of issue and serously think its not going to be a simple fix considering how complex this whole thing has become.

 

20 minutes ago, mjrhealth said:

I actually dont have an issue with AA but in release notes

  • Cloud flickering may still occur in some situations
  • Cloud shadows can appear too dark under certain conditions
  • Cloud artifacts may still be visible in same cases

Actually dont have issue with AA as for clouds well aware of issue and serously think its not going to be a simple fix considering how complex this whole thing has become.

 

My issues with shimmering/AA are on the ground, anything 20 feet in front of me is very aliased and shimmers a lot.

--Sean Hart

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3 minutes ago, sultanofswing said:

My issues with shimmering/AA are on the ground, anything 20 feet in front of me is very aliased and shimmers a lot.

Can you post a screenshot of what you see, and your settings?

We may be able to figure out what's going on.

8 minutes ago, GoranM said:

Can you post a screenshot of what you see, and your settings?

We may be able to figure out what's going on.

A screenshot will not show the issues, you will be looking at a 4k image that will look sharp on your display.

--Sean Hart

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