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FSX BLURRIES ............ I can do no more!

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I have tried every possible solution, except a complete re-install of everything, to cure blurry FSX textures.Asus P5E MotherboardQ6600 processor4 Gig DDR2 PC8500 Memory2 Hardrives, one for Vista64 and one for FSX programs8800GT OC2 512Mb VideocardFSX w/ Sp2O&O Defrag by Complete/NameCurrent drivers on everything that has driversAssundry FSX.cfg tweaksNothing has helped. Doing a hard bank and looking straight down, I can see the texture files popping into place, giving a crisp image. Then as the plane rotates around, the images go back to blurry again.The GEX textures look fantastic while at highest resolution but that only lasts for a short period of time.I give up! I can do no more! Apparently FSX is what it is.Richard

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Richard----you are correct! "It is what it is". I have come to that conclusion after doing what you have done. I have followed Sam and Nick's advice on a new computer dedicated to FSX and the set up of XP.I just purchased GEX, UTX, and FS Genesis. I must have spent 1000 hours or more tweaking. None of the above have eliminated the popping, blurry, stuttering autogen and textures (and I do not have the sliders far right).I now have about $9,000 in dedicated high-end FS equipment, and I have come to the conclusion, as you have, FSX is just a flawed product. Very, very frustrating. I only fly the heavies between major airports and that's where FSX is at it's worst. I can only hope that FSnext performs better on my *new* system, because I can not spend another $3k on this game! I would spend $300-500 on a properly finished FS however.Bruce Scott * eVGA 132-CK-NF78 780i SLI Motherboard * Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 STEPPING Overclocked at 3.6Ghz* GeForce 8800ULTRA 768MB * 4GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2 1000 * Western Digital Caviar 500GB HDD* Western Digital Raptor 150GB HDD* CoolerMaster 850W Power Supply* Windows XP Pro

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My sympathies go out to you. With the machine specs given you should be getting good results with FSX as many people are. As we are all running the same FSX code and either XP or Vista then your must look to the culprit of your poor performance being something other than FSX, hardware or the OS. As no one but the owner knows what else is loaded and how on their own machine, there is little help or advice that can be given from this forum. Perhaps you could try some personalised professional help, these services have been mentioned many times on this forum.I have:XP HomeIntel E8500 @ 3.14GHZGeforce 8800 GTX2GB DDR3 1333An inexpensive Asus P5KC Mobo.3 Sata II HDDsI lock my framerates at 35 which are maintained unless I do something untoward like fly low over O'hare but then most of my sliders are turn up to near the maximum. So most of the forum members will extend then sympathies and can appreciate your frustration. However, firing bullets at FSX is misguided because many using the same product are getting satisfactory results. Until you accept that FSX your hardware and your OS can produce good results you are unlikely to find the answer to your problem.

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As John (yellowjack) says, I feel bad for you, because with your hardware, you should NOT be having the blurries. I can tell you, that with the hardware I have (specs in sig), I don't have blurries in the situation you describe. The only way I can make my sys have blurries would be to slew at a high rate of speed, 100's of miles. Normal flying, it does not.I am sure that FS-GS could solve it for you; there is no need to cast blame at FSX, not with your hardware.RhettFS box: E8500 (@ 3.80 ghz), AC Freezer 7 Pro, ASUS P5E3 Premium, BFG 8800GTX 756 (nVidia 169 WHQL), 4gb DDR3 1600 Patriot Cas7 7-7-7-20 (2T), PC Power 750, WD 150gb 10000rpm Raptor, Seagate 500gb, Silverstone TJ09 case, Vista Ultimate 64ASX Client: AMD 3700+ (@ 2.6 ghz), 7800GT

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hmm ever tried a LASIK?sorry guys - it's a lame joke but I couldn't resist.

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Hey, you might have something there!! If the guys who think they're getting great FSX performance had their eyesight improved--- they may think otherwise!! Good one!Actually, I would dearly love to witness, in person, the actual performance that Rhett, John, Sam, Nick and a dozen others are getting. I see some pretty incredible screen shots now and then, but they are always with a GA aircraft at about 6-7000 ft or so. and I don't know if the game is paused for the textures to catch up.? I would like to see the big jets taxiing and taking off from LGA with moderate to high settings and 15% WOAI commercial traffic (no airport vehicles or car traffic).I do, in deed, love FSX and I play it daily. I can not go back to FS9. But-----it is what it is!Bruce

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I just got a new machine as described below and fired up FSX for the first time. I have done nothing to stop the blurries. But they are pretty bad, I must say. But I can live with them So, given all the many good things about the sim, I just ignore them. In the back of my mind, I'm just hanging in there for a fix however.To me they are the worst on interstates, just even a little ways ahead.Bob (Las Cruces, NM)XP-Home, With FS Genesis Terrain MeshLogitech G15 Backlit Game Keyboard and18 Programmable Macro/Keystroke KeysAsus P5N-D MotherboardIntel E8500 @ 3.16GHz (Now)CPUThermaltake MaxOrb Enthusiast CPU FanCorsir XMS2 PC6400/DDR2/800 Dual, 4GigsSATA-II 500, 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDDEVGA Geforce 8800 GT/512 (OC'd Version)Dual Flat Panel Monitors

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My concern is not with performance (FPS), but with the image.If I move the FPS slider to Unlimited, I'm turely amazed at the number I see. Usualy well over 100 fps. Even stays near my locked setting of 60 (same as the LCD monitor display HZ) with 60% WOAI.I have read many good reports from those who paid to have their system optimized for FSX. But as I said, that would involve a complete re-install of FSX.What could be the reason for the higher resolution textures not loading? How could this be on a system dedicated to FSX?A system with:No other programs installed. A 64 bit OS on one 250GB drive and FSX on the second 250GB drive.3GB/s SATA hard drive interfaceNo 4 GB Ram limitation and 4 GB Ram installed.A quad core processor which does utilize the other cores in FSX.A PCI-E 2.0 16x video card slot with 8800GT 512mb card. 1333 FSB motherboard.What could be the problem? Richard

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Things you haven't addressed:1) Hard drive space2) Hard drive speed3) Anti-virus configuration4) # of other processes simultaneously running5) Addons installedIt could be any number of bottlenecks. It could also be not the "blurries" but some other setting mis-configured. Can you post a screenshot along with a copy of your settings .cfg file?It's not possible to troubleshoot these issues without seeing BOTH a screenshot and having a copy of the affected machines settings configuration file.

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You have got this far, spend a few more bucks at www.fs-gs.comYou have to see it to believe it :-)XP Pro SP2-FSX SP2AMD FX60-8800GTS-2 Gigs RAMFEX-GEX-UTUSA-FSGenesis-and a bunch of other stuffComputer optimized by www.fs-gs.com

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Hard Drive: Seagate Barricuda 7200.10 250GB 7200rpm 16MB Sata 3.0GB/sHard drive space: OS Hard Drive: 250GB with 62GB used FSX Hard Drive: 250GB with 32 GB usedAnti virus: MS Vista64 Only. Nothing else.Processes running: 19Addons Installed: FS Genesis FSX Mesh and Landclass, GEX, WOAI, Reality XP GNS 530 WAAS GPS, VOXATC-FSXBlurry textures are visible flying the UltraLight and without RXP GPS or VoxAtc running. No Autogen, Water 1x, other sliders a little above mid range.Will be a bit before I can get to the screen shot and settingd .cfg.Richard

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I hear ya.Even though I have ALOT of $$$$ in machine and payware invested in FSX, I have had ENOUGH.I bought a PS3 to run my FPS shooters and racing games and my rig is dedicated to FSX.Amd,Intel,Nvidia,ATI,defrag,Nick's bible,I cannot along with ALOT of other solve certain problems. In my case aa/af issues. If not that then something else will pop up.IMO 3/4 of these "tweaks" are snakeoil. You cannot tame FSX and kill it with high end tech and throwing $$ at it so you are basically running around in circles.And NO. I do not consider reinstalling my OS a option everytime FSX acts up.I just bought a new plane to enjoy over the holiday weekend.Even with all the must have addons, looking out and seeing jagged runways,wavy terrain textures at distance,the occassional stutters and looking up and seeing 12 fps on a 5 grand hand built rig is SAD.Yeah start turning settings down and off and you know what you have? FS9.I am going to reload FS9 and try and put back together the virtual world I had prior to this mess.I might keep FSX on for ga and helis but the next sim version cannot come fast enough for me.I dont need another high profile individuals blog boasting about how peachy fsx is either.Ok the holiday rant is over.:-)

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>I dont need another high profile individuals blog boasting>about how peachy fsx is either.that was uncalled for.

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When I see posts like this I always feel bad because I have been where you are. I'm going to expand a bit on why I reccomend FS-GS in the hopes others may benefit.One of my 'occupations' is creating video content of a company that does recurrent safety training for corporate flight depts. The videos I create MUST be smooth and free of any problems.I started with FX9 over 4 years ago, and nothing I did would give me what I needed. I spent literally months checking every forum for every 'tweak' I could find. Finally I checked a link for FS-GS that someone had posted. I was skeptical but I figured I might as well give it a shot, cause I was out of options, and if I wasn't satisfied, I didn't have to pay, so it was a 'no lose' situation.The first thing I was told was my video card wasn't up to the job for what I wanted. Since the machine was a few years old, I decided to upgrade the entire system. FS-GS gave me a list of hardware that at the time was top of the line, I bought it, went back to FS-GS, and the fun began.It took 2 sessions, about 6 hours the first time and 4 hours the next, and FS9 was a new animal. FPS well into the 70's, smooth as silk and all scenery crystal clear. That was FS9.Fast forward to FSX. They reset my system, the same one I bought for FS9, for FSX. I run almost all sliders to the max, have no blurries, FPS averaging high 20's to high 30's, all with a 2 1/2 year old machine.To make a long story short, for the last 2 1/2 years I have had all the support I could hope for, and it hasnt cost me an extra cent, including re-tweaking my machine for FSX. They stay on top of drivers, tweaks, mods, and anything else that might improve FSX, they test it and if it works, they notify me and help with the configuration.I can't begin to tell you how much time and aggravation I have saved using their service and I highly recommed it to anyone frustrated by FSX performance issues. They don't use generic tweaks like some post, every system is specifically adjusted for max performance in FSX on THAT system.The fact that I still am a customer almost 3 years later, as fussy as I am, should tell a story. :)Try it, you will never regret it.XP Pro SP2-FSX SP2AMD FX60-8800GTS-2 Gigs RAMFEX-GEX-UTUSA-FSGenesis-and a bunch of other stuffComputer optimized by www.fs-gs.com

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If Microsoft had customer support, they would provide an FS-GS type service for free.To bad a company like Valve didn't make FSX, they still update my 7 year old game (Half-Life) on a regular basis. That's customer support.

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Try setting and saving the LOD radius to 7.5 or 8.0 from the default 4.5.in the FSX Config file. For me, this extends the radius significantly for crisp textures. Since you mention you have some crisp textures when you bank, this may extend the radius out further. Remember if you change any settings (such as autogen etc) in the display settings after saving the new LOD number in the cfg., it will revert back to the default next time you fly. Give it a shot.

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Richard,Please attach your scenery .cfg file and a screenshot showing the "blurries" that you're experiencing and I can provide further assistance.Without those two things ... nobody can help.Can you answer the following questions:Are you running any anti-virus software?What is your operating system?Is this machine connected to the internet?Don't forget to attach your settings .cfg file and a screenshot demonstrating your blurries.Thanks,

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I'll try to get those other items posted today.For now,- NO Anti-virus software installed. Only use what it provided by the OS which would be the OS Firewall. I normally download files with another compter which has Norton AV, scan and save then to disk for upload to the FSX machine.- OS is Microsoft Vista 64 with SP1- Yes, machine is connected to the Internet. Used for FSX real weather download. Automatic OS Updates and Time Sync are disabled.Thanks for the help,Richard

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@ brucets:I can't speak for others, and my computer system is of a medium build, but I can say that I avoid the blurries in my reviews by taking my time to create the screenshots.Sometimes, it can take me up to half an hour to get the shot just right. By then, the blurries resolve themselves. Sometimes, there are blurries in my shots. I use them to demonstrate blur, or to create a cheap depth of focus effect. Sometimes, the only camera angle I want is one where the camera is in motion, and I have to snap the picture, well, on the fly.Then, too, as Geofa mentions in this thread, some aircraft will cause more blurries than others. To me, avoiding blurries can be as simple as deciding to fly a different aircraft. I would suggest that the GA aircraft generate fewer blurries than the big jets. As for the case of the original poster, though, there may be something more serious at the bottom of this issue.I, too, am skeptical when I see ultra-pretty screenshots. You can bet that the sim was paused to allow blurries to go away in many cases. As well, if you throw the image into Photoshop and look at the Levels, you may see a chopped-up gamma distribution curve: that's the unavoidable hallmark of screenshot tampering. Jeff ShylukAssistant Managing EditorSenior Staff ReviewerAVSIM

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It's not MS's job to tune every computer for maximum performance. This is not a program issue, it's a computer issue. How else can we explain many users on medium power computers having satisfactory results while others with very high-powered boxes have difficulties. There is an infinite combination of processors, mother boards, memory sticks and brands, graphics cards, etc. Microsoft can't be responsible for all combinations.

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>It's not MS's job to tune every computer for maximum>performance. This is not a program issue, it's a computer>issue.No way! There are way to many computer literate FS users with high-end rigs that have blurries. People are claiming that their computers run every other highload graphics game and good-old FS-9 without problems they just have 1 problem and it is with FS-X. Its not their computers its what FS-X is doing thats the problem.>How else can we explain many users on medium power>computers having satisfactory results while others with very>high-powered boxes have difficulties.One problem is what is 'satisfactory'. If you have low end hardware you would expect and tolerate some blurries, lower res ground tiles and a few frame drops. The other factor is your use of the program. Where in the world do you fly and at what height....>There is an infinite>combination of processors, mother boards, memory sticks and>brands, graphics cards, etc. Microsoft can't be responsible>for all combinations.But Microsoft should at least do as good a job as most other game makers and my own impression supported by views vented on these and other forums is that Microsoft/Aces made a game engine that is very nervous about the hardware and the drivers you use.Lets say that some hardware combos might be the problem. That 'problem' could be easly solved by posting a few recommended configurations on the offical support site or a Blog. But al we get is lectures about performance and hopes about new hardware improving performance by x %.Maybe we could do a quaterly hardware feature. The best $ 1500, $ 2500 and $ 3500 FS computer your money can buy. It would give newbies something to begin with and we finaly might get some meaningfull discussion about how FS-X performs on standard platform A, B or C.Still it will always be about expectations, add-ons used and personal standards. (some people realy need LASIK before they notice they have the blurries too)

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Ok. Looking forward to seeing these. Maybe someone here at AVSIM will spot something.There is not much your computer shouldn't be able to do with regard to FSX ... but having said that, even it is not capable, as you know, if running FSX at full sliders.No computer is capable of that - yet.But your computer should be more than capable of running FSX at reasonable slider levels with reasonable frames per second and no "blurries."While you are posting screens, you might want to take a screenshot of your task manager processes, so that we might be able to spot something that shouldn't be there, seeing as how this workstation is connected to the internet, but isn't protected by virus scanning software. Perhaps, unbeknownst to you, someone else has been surfing.Cheers,

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>No way! There are way to many computer literate FS users with>high-end rigs that have blurries. People are claiming that>their computers run every other highload graphics game and>good-old FS-9 without problems they just have 1 problem and it>is with FS-X. Its not their computers its what FS-X is doing>thats the problem.Oddly enough, it seems that it is the self-admitted not terribly technically savvy who seem to have the fewest problems......sometimes, one's "expertise" is the major stubling block, as it's perhaps nothing more than a chimera... ;)Where's the "stirring the pot" or "ducking the flying brick" smilies when ya need 'em? :-lol

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