7 hours ago, St Mawgan said:

Still no video of this that I can see. 

I suspect because no one has been able to land the plane at first try and quickly record a video. hehe 🙂

The Learjet is a rocket, harder than other jets to fly, and a difficult challenge to land (for me when compared to other aircraft). I tried it a couple of times and I've not been able to land it yet without using the spoilers early on and the thrust reverser on a 5000 ft runway (KHAF).

It works fine in MSFS 2024 though. It's different from what you may be used to and might be worth a try if the many other aircraft you may have is starting to bore you.

I am interested in purchasing this aircraft, however as others have mentioned would need to have the GTN750 integrated with the working title mod enabled first. I use the pms50.

On 9/12/2025 at 4:45 PM, bofhlusr said:

I suspect because no one has been able to land the plane at first try and quickly record a video. hehe 🙂
 

I'm not sure this is a thing! You think there are no professional  pilot who can land Lear and make youtube video of that? LOL 

FYI 😎 (I haven't watched this yet though)

 

On 9/12/2025 at 8:35 AM, St Mawgan said:

Still no video of this that I can see. 

I uploaded a video quickie (less than 5 minutes short): 
https://youtu.be/23dGgFkf3Hc

I used high resolution to export the video to an mp4 file but who knows how it'll come out in YouTube. 

Edited September 14, 2025Sep 14 by bofhlusr

Watching that video and amazed by the fact they still haven't learnt how to do IAS hold yet without making a mock autothrottle.

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4 hours ago, Gazzareth said:

Watching that video and amazed by the fact they still haven't learnt how to do IAS hold yet without making a mock autothrottle.

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I have the P3D version and the Speed / Mach hold certainly works in that version.

8 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

I have the P3D version and the Speed / Mach hold certainly works in that version.

Last time I used it, trying IAS mode without Autothrottle in was utterly hopeless, completely unstable and incapable of holding speed.

P3D is totally gone for me, so not able to test it see if they patched it so it works properly, although the video above would suggest they didn't. 

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2 hours ago, Gazzareth said:

Last time I used it, trying IAS mode without Autothrottle in was utterly hopeless, completely unstable and incapable of holding speed.

P3D is totally gone for me, so not able to test it see if they patched it so it works properly, although the video above would suggest they didn't. 

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I manually handle throttles during the climb only setting the Mach hold at cruise. It gives me something to do. Does Mach Hold work?

8 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

I manually handle throttles during the climb only setting the Mach hold at cruise. It gives me something to do. Does Mach Hold work?

Can't remember, as I said, no longer have p3d installed. Doubt I'll get the FS version as the FSW 35 is fantastic, and I flew it in p3d far more than the 25.

As for in cruise, pretty sure the autothrottle used to work fine, although always felt like a total cheat as the real aircraft doesn't have it.

 

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This is what happens when you still have P3D, MSFS 2020 and 2024 installed, insist on using the vastly different and confusing default control settings in both MSFS; and, you can't quickly figure out which key setting controls the gear, flaps, spoiler, thrust reverser and brakes in a speedy throttled hand flown rocket of a plane... landing on a 'short' runway. lol 

That looks like Half Moon Bay. I have fond memories of that place in FU2 and FU3, although it certainly did not look as good as that!

On 9/13/2025 at 7:53 PM, sd_flyer said:

I'm not sure this is a thing! You think there are no professional  pilot who can land Lear and make youtube video of that? LOL 

Three new YouTube videos on the new Learjet 25.  The first one is in Portuguese and the second one in German (you can turn on English captions and lower the playback speed to 75%. I'm not sure if this will work for all though, since I use YouTube Premium).

Portuguese (real pilot):

German (streamed):

English:

 

3 hours ago, bofhlusr said:

Three new YouTube videos on the new Learjet 25.  The first one is in Portuguese and the second one in German (you can turn on English captions and lower the playback speed to 75%. I'm not sure if this will work for all though, since I use YouTube Premium).

Portuguese (real pilot):

German (streamed):

English:

 

I think you misunderstood me. You wrote something about YouTubers can't land Lear that why we don't have videos. I suggested that if YouTube professional pilot they won't have problem landing it.

P.S. Not sure what to make of those vids, I'm not planning to learn foreign languages in nearest future  LOL

On 9/9/2025 at 4:18 AM, Matchstick said:

It is using the GNS - I get the feeling the devs really don't have a good grip on MSFS avionics right now.

Other possible Bugs I've spotted so far in just a startup and then a single T/O are the brakes don't work in '24 SU4 (perfectly forgivable is this is just a problem in SU4) [brakes are working now, not sure if I just needed to restart '24 a few time or if it's related to manually removing the ground elements on this flight - more investigation required] and in '20 enabling the AP in HDG mode after T/O lead to the plane overshooting and over-correcting so much it was triggering the stall warning - it's possible the real AP was literally that bad but first guess is it wasn't.

If they can sort the bugs and avionics it definitely has potential as an older, somewhat more basic and significantly faster version of the Learjet with what may be greater systems depth than the FSW (that needs a lot more investigation to say either way)

So I'm not sure I'd recommend it right now, but it's one to keep an eye on.

-- Edit --
there's actually a section in the manual on the use of the old GNS - TL;DR; the new one messed up the AP
 

-- Edit 2 --
I also notice that the license WILL NOT allow people to share mods that modify the avionics - unless the devs are going to provide their own versions with the TDS or PMS GTN and working weather radar that NEEDS to change.

Found this interesting tidbit in the manual too:

"The real Gates Learjet 20 Series aircraft were not equipped with an autothrottle for the autopilot Speed Hold mode (SPD), even though we are giving our users the option to use the autothrottle that is available in MSFS. We know purists may find this feature unrealistic in the case of the Learjet 25, but the vast majority of our users still appreciate the convenience of an autothrottle, especially when learning how to fly the aircraft when there is so much to do. 

In some of the real Learjet aircraft, the autopilot maintained speed by varying the aircraft’s pitch. The “Speed Hold by Pitch” mode is not natively supported in MSFS and was not available in most Learjet 20 Series aircraft."