And as always: proof or didnt happen. Too many people always claim miraculous FPS numbers, now we have a built in FPS counter and still no screenshot proving what they claim. I get e.g. 32-34FPS on 4K ultra over at MK Studios LSZH with PG on, TLOD and OLOD 200, iniBuilds A350 sitting on Terminal E and 75% AIG traffic using all available airlines installed. Unless someone shows me a screenshot on this scenario with considerably more FPS, e.g. 40, I doubt that something is wrong on my end. But IF, I am happy to learn about it. 

7 minutes ago, AnkH said:

And as always: proof or didnt happen. Too many people always claim miraculous FPS numbers, now we have a built in FPS counter and still no screenshot proving what they claim. I get e.g. 32-34FPS on 4K ultra over at MK Studios LSZH with PG on, TLOD and OLOD 200, iniBuilds A350 sitting on Terminal E and 75% AIG traffic using all available airlines installed. Unless someone shows me a screenshot on this scenario with considerably more FPS, e.g. 40, I doubt that something is wrong on my end. But IF, I am happy to learn about it. 

Whats your performance without AIG at 75%? Interested to here about the impact. Easy to adjust the amount of AI

Michael Moe 

Edited September 14, 2025Sep 14 by Michael Moe

AIG traffic reduces the FPS only around 3-4FPS with 75% on my end. Not a lot, but relatively still considerable. But I also have to admit that LSZH is somehow really a performance hog, maybe due to the PG around it. With PG off and no AI traffic, my FPS lock of 72 is maintained even in LSZH. 

1 hour ago, AnkH said:

And as always: proof or didnt happen. Too many people always claim miraculous FPS numbers, now we have a built in FPS counter and still no screenshot proving what they claim. I get e.g. 32-34FPS on 4K ultra over at MK Studios LSZH with PG on, TLOD and OLOD 200, iniBuilds A350 sitting on Terminal E and 75% AIG traffic using all available airlines installed. Unless someone shows me a screenshot on this scenario with considerably more FPS, e.g. 40, I doubt that something is wrong on my end. But IF, I am happy to learn about it. 

First off You're at 4k resolution and using different hardware (GPU) and its related software (drivers) and i bet a different sim configuration to render what you are seeing on your screen.

Second off I dont use addon airports for MSFS2024. I use stock scenery with the only resource intensive addons being PMDG/FENIX

Third off there is nothing really to prove as EVERY set up is different unless your on an xbox. And i do mean Every. You cannot replicate my specific memory timings, voltages, CPU PBO numbers and GPU voltage underclocks and power adjustments (Chip lottery and all that), Not to mention AGESA versions.. additional bios settings what i have cut out of my Windows 10 startup and what i have offloaded from my motherboard to dedicated hardware. It all adds up. 

Everyone runs their box a certain specific way and has their own preferences. I dont feel it necessary to be showing you or anyone for that matter screenshots. I am giving you my experience on my system and telling you my experience. If you feel that it is impossible with the specs listed in my signature.. Oh well it is what it is.   Ill go on and mind my own business..

Edited September 14, 2025Sep 14 by Maxis

Well, you make a claim that seems rather impossible and then you come up with differences that might explain 1-2FPS at most. I mean, go on and mind your business, but then why posting FPS numbers here in this thread if they are obviously worth nothing if a) you cant anyway compare them and b) you are not even willing to prove them? One word: bull*

16 minutes ago, AnkH said:

One word: bull*

He’s at 2k with only default airports.
 

You’re at 4K with payware scenery. 

Why are you two arguing? the differences are pretty obvious and naturally the 2k default scenery machine will get more fps than the 4K payware. 

Edited September 14, 2025Sep 14 by JonathanC

5 hours ago, spearmint_flyer said:

I need to see your full NVIDIA settings. Open the Nvidia Control Panel, show me that. Also, go into the control panel and graphics settings. Make sure MS2024 is set to use the GPU and not set to auto.Harware Scheduled GPU acceleration should also be on.

Thanks, here they are:

https://imgur.com/ox38It4

https://imgur.com/zb6X8vU

https://imgur.com/fS18xPr

https://imgur.com/uJRXphA

https://imgur.com/x4KUhGG

https://imgur.com/fegpgMj

4 hours ago, Maxis said:

I dont use addon airports for MSFS2024

Well, that clears it up for me. At least now I know what the comparison is based on.

2 hours ago, regis9 said:

Thanks, here they are:

https://imgur.com/ox38It4

https://imgur.com/zb6X8vU

https://imgur.com/fS18xPr

https://imgur.com/uJRXphA

https://imgur.com/x4KUhGG

https://imgur.com/fegpgMj

I don't see anything here that could be limiting you. Try doing frame generation X3 and tell me what FPS you get on the dev mode.

1 hour ago, V1ROTA7E said:

Well, that clears it up for me. At least now I know what the comparison is based on.

And thats fair. I have premium Deluxe and have no desire to load up something like Inibuilds EGLL as yet.

5 hours ago, AnkH said:

Well, you make a claim that seems rather impossible and then you come up with differences that might explain 1-2FPS at most. I mean, go on and mind your business, but then why posting FPS numbers here in this thread if they are obviously worth nothing if a) you cant anyway compare them and b) you are not even willing to prove them? One word: bull*

Seems rather impossible ? 40fps locked on stock ultra is impossible ?  Sounds like we are back in FSX days by your reckoning.

You have proof that the differences i highlighted is only worth 1-2 fps ?

4k vs 2k is only 1-2 fps ?

Addon Airports vs Stock is only 1-2 fps ?

Your responses sound just like a really stubborn person on here who refused to believe that Nvidia isnt the only company that could design and support a decent GPU.. at some point i just shake my head and keep it moving. 

Enjoy your flying .. 

22 minutes ago, Maxis said:

Seems rather impossible ? 40fps locked on stock ultra is impossible ?  Sounds like we are back in FSX days by your reckoning.

You have proof that the differences i highlighted is only worth 1-2 fps ?

4k vs 2k is only 1-2 fps ?

Addon Airports vs Stock is only 1-2 fps ?

It’s not impossible at all. Stock sim with the ultra preset selected (minus static traffic) 200 TLOD and no addon airports/reshade/extras, totally doable. With those settings, personally I could easily pull 45-60 FPS without issue. BUT he’s not wrong in that some things make next to no difference. The difference (poorly tested btw) on my system between TLOD 300 & 400 is 5-7 real (no FG) FPS. 1440 to 4K has zero difference in performance, but addon airports is where things start to fall off, sharply. 
 

I'm starting to wonder if the streaming thing is playing a bigger performance role than we’re being led to believe. I remember someone recently posted a video comparing performance of streamed data vs downloaded…but I think I may just bite the bullet and download everything to see for myself.

Just now, V1ROTA7E said:

It’s not impossible at all. Stock sim with the ultra preset selected (minus static traffic) 200 TLOD and no addon airports/reshade/extras, totally doable. With those settings, personally I could easily pull 45-60 FPS without issue. BUT he’s not wrong in that some things make next to no difference. The difference (poorly tested btw) on my system between TLOD 300 & 400 is 5-7 real (no FG) FPS. 1440 to 4K has zero difference in performance, but addon airports is where things start to fall off, sharply. 
 

I'm starting to wonder if the streaming thing is playing a bigger performance role than we’re being led to believe. I remember someone recently posted a video comparing performance of streamed data vs downloaded…but I think I may just bite the bullet and download everything to see for myself.

Thank you for understanding.. 

I will give you a few things

I have a 7800X3d sitting in my drawer because it could not do the work i needed to get it to where i was happy ... framerates was sitting in the thirties at the time it was in my system and the frametimes were unstable..

With a 400 TLOD things  really do fall off the cliff even with a 9800X3D so i agree with you there . I tested that out two weeks ago and i had to back it down. I settled on 300 currently.

The 4k Vs 2k thing .. I personally think that the variance would be higher than 1-2 fps especially with anything lower than a 4090 or 5080/5090. I am sure with my GPU  i would see a bigger drop because it does not have the grunt those cards have so i think that aspect is hardware dependent.

I also run my sim with the base content downloaded. For the all streaming config  it should only make a difference if there is something interrupting the data flow which may cause a bit of stutters.  

I run no addons while the sim is running apart from AIG

For a sanity check i just launched my sim at KORD in the Fenix,  launched AIG.   I had 1 resource warning initially then the sim settled down and recovered immediately ... Both inside the fenix cockpit and outside the sim was able to maintain the native 40fps doubled to 80.

On 9/14/2025 at 3:07 AM, Maxis said:

Its not. I am locked at 40 BEFORE framegen and it stays pegged at 80 with pretty much ultra settings sitting at the terminal with a TLOD of 300. Just like the other user my system is thoroughly tuned. . My only bugaboo is occasionally tipping over the VRAM at the Mega Airports Apart from that my graphic card can hold its own at 2k ultrawide and its not a 5090.

Just to make things clear, this was YOUR post, @Maxis you wrote initially here in the thread. In a thread where a user looked for advice because he thinks that his rig is not performing as it should. YOU come here and tell the TS that 45FPS is not hyperbole and how nice YOUR FPS numbers are with a very high TLOD. YOU imply in your post, that it is partially due to "your thoroughly tuned" system, basically implying a) that you get those FPS only because you "know" and b) you also imply that the TS (or any other not reaching those numbers) have a messed up system or simply dont know what they do. THIS is the message you transport with such a post, nothing more and nothing less...

4 hours ago, Maxis said:

Your responses sound just like a really stubborn person on here who refused to believe that Nvidia isnt the only company that could design and support a decent GPU.. at some point i just shake my head and keep it moving. 

See above, the whole mess only started after I asked for proof via screenshot which you decided to rate as a personal attack and that you do not have to proof anything to anyone. 

It is always the same story, sorry to say. People open threads and ask for help because their rig is not performing as it should in their eyes and besides some valuable advice you always get those jumping into such threads and post their wonderful FPS numbers with settings higher than "ultra". What for? To show off something? WHAT is the benefit from telling the TS that you have locked 40FPS on 2K using only default sim? If the TS long made clear that he has low FPS on heavy addon sceneries using addon planes and AI traffic?

Even more, you then lecture me about what could potentially have an impact on FPS and that this is the reason why such comparisons make no sense. My question is then even more pronounced: what is the rationale for such posts of yours? WHY do you give numbers for FPS and TLOD if you are convinced that comparisons do anyway make no sense? I dont get it, seriously...

Yeah ok @AnkH … not bothering to respond to your post. The person who's assertion I originally objected to responded appropriately and understood the differences and is not trying to contort themselves to argue with me because I don't post proof. You want proof ? Go adjust your settings appropriately and try for yourself.

Believe what you want to believe. There’s really nothing to prove or discuss further. The person I wanted to understand that i am able to run the sim locked at 40 native frames at stock ultra doubled to 80 via framegen declared he understood how and why.

Edited September 15, 2025Sep 15 by Maxis