September 25, 2025Sep 25 Hello everyone, since recently I haven't been able to load MSFS2020: I get a CTD while loading the sim, at around 60%. Searching for a solution points me to the Nvidia App. However, I uninstalled it, updated driver to 581.29, and still it doesn't load. I checked again, but it's not installed. Wiping cache and temp files didn't solve this either. Using safe mode still gives me a CTD. Furthermore, removing UserCfg.opt (so that MSFS generates a new one, using DX11) also solves nothing. I don't remember having applied any significant changes to my rig. The crash report at %appdata%\Microsoft Flight Simulator\MSFSReport-Crash.txt says the following: /!/ CRASH /!/TOML [OnCrash] Msg="_handleSEH" Type="SEH" Code=0xC0000005 The rest of the error report is inside spoiler: Spoiler [Engine] ReportVersion=10 ExitApp=false TimeUTC=2025-09-25T02:19:19Z UnscaledDeltaTimeMs=398.777526 TimeSpentRunningMs=278112.124162 TimeSpentPauseOffMs=273826.343274 TimeSpentTurnedOnMs=273826.343274 ContextUID=0x63F2AC56979516EC MemInfoUID=0x2AFC6C608A233953 DebuggerAllowed=false AllocatedMem=6893539328 FrameCount=109265 BuildVersion="1.39.9.0" IsMSIXVC=false FreeOpenOpsCount-Main=1024 FreeOpenOpsCount-Thread=1011 [Hardware] Platform="PC" Cpu="AuthenticAMD" Brand="AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 8-Core Processor " DriverVersion="58129" GPUName="NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti" HWS_Enabled=1 [Fibers] NumCreated_TOTAL=163 NumExternalCreated=112 NumConverted=22 NumExternalConverted=8 NumCreatedFiberMgr=51 [Renderer] EnableD3D12=false PreferD3D12=false Model="Nvidia" 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I'm out of ideas. What was intended to be a 1-hour flight ended up a 3-hour troubleshooting process with no destination nor sucess😭 Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
September 25, 2025Sep 25 If I use any driver Nvida driver newer then 576.40 I get a crash to desktop while loading FS2020 before I get to the main menu. Any driver before that I have no problems. Ive reinstalled W11 and reinstalled MSFS2020. Same problems. I Asked AI and it said it was a known issue with FS2020 and newer Nvidia drivers. Pete Richards I've owned every version of flight simulator since Flight Simulator 3.0 in 1988. Windows 11 Pro loaded on a 4TB Gen5 Crucial T700 SSD, 4TB Samsung 990 Pro SSD, Ryzen 9 7950x3d, AS Rock X670e Taichi Motherboard, Gigabyte Gaming RTX 4090 OC 24GB, 64GB (2x32GB) Viper Venom DDR5-6000MT/s, MSI 32" MAG 321UPX QD-OLED 260hz 4K Gaming Monitor.
September 25, 2025Sep 25 I do Nvidia Driver Only installs. MSFS2020 installed. No problems to report with any Older or newer Nvidia divers on my setup. Best Regards, Vaughan Martell PP-ASEL KDTW
September 25, 2025Sep 25 I have exactly the same issue on DX11. DX12 has memory leak issues on my system, even though it runs well after startup.
September 25, 2025Sep 25 Author I did downgrade to 576.20, no Nvidia app, but still the same issue. Since I have a 5060Ti, I can't go much earlier. Also, I had noticed the issue in DX12, initially, so the problem is with either DX11 or 12. As I said before, Safe Mode does not help at all😭 Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
September 25, 2025Sep 25 I think the Nvidia app issue was from last year when it was still just coming out of beta. I use it with no issues on the current driver's for both 2020 running hours every day as well as 2024 gets a few hours a week. If anything, I'd be more concerned about any recent addons or addon updates. i7-13700KF, 32gb DDR4 3200, RTX 4080, Win 11, MSFS 2024
September 25, 2025Sep 25 2 hours ago, Dave_YVR said: I think the Nvidia app issue was from last year when it was still just coming out of beta. I use it with no issues on the current driver's for both 2020 running hours every day as well as 2024 gets a few hours a week. If anything, I'd be more concerned about any recent addons or addon updates. With DX11? I have no issues with the app and DX12 but it still crashes DX11... 6 hours ago, Soulflight said: I have exactly the same issue on DX11. DX12 has memory leak issues on my system, even though it runs well after startup. I would think if DX12 had a memory leak in MSFS it would be pretty well known. How are you defining memory leak? Have a Wonderful Day -Paul Solk
September 25, 2025Sep 25 @Luis Hernandez I'm sorry if I missed it, have you tried empty Community folder? Have a Wonderful Day -Paul Solk
September 25, 2025Sep 25 Also, I've found ChatGPT really useful for crash reports! Helps me decipher things immensely. It did have one good suggestion if you are already resetting things... 3. Verify File Integrity If you’re using Steam: right-click Microsoft Flight Simulator → Properties → Installed Files → Verify Integrity. Microsoft Store version: Try a repair/reset from App Settings. This was the full GPT breakdown This crash report excerpt from Microsoft Flight Simulator (or a related program using a TOML-formatted crash report) indicates a Structured Exception Handling (SEH) crash, specifically an Access Violation error. Let’s break it down: 🧠 Crash Report Breakdown /!/ CRASH /!/TOML [OnCrash] Msg="_handleSEH" Type="SEH" Code=0xC0000005 📌 Key Fields Explained Field Meaning Msg="_handleSEH" This tells us the crash was handled through the Structured Exception Handler — Windows’ way of dealing with low-level exceptions (like memory issues). Type="SEH" Confirms that the crash is due to a Structured Exception Handling (SEH) event. Code=0xC0000005 This is the important part: a Windows Access Violation. ❗ 0xC0000005 — Access Violation This specific error code means: The program tried to read or write to a memory address that it doesn't have access to. Typical causes: Null pointer dereference (trying to access something at address 0) Invalid memory access (accessing freed or unallocated memory) Stack overflows Corrupted files or addons Graphics driver issues ✅ What You Can Do Here are steps to troubleshoot: 1. Remove/Disable Mods & Add-ons If you're using third-party scenery, aircraft, or utilities, try running the simulator in safe mode or with a clean Community folder. 2. Update Graphics Drivers Outdated or buggy GPU drivers (especially NVIDIA/AMD) are common causes of access violations in games. 3. Verify File Integrity If you’re using Steam: right-click Microsoft Flight Simulator → Properties → Installed Files → Verify Integrity. Microsoft Store version: Try a repair/reset from App Settings. 4. Run as Administrator Sometimes permission issues can cause access violations. Right-click the app → Run as Administrator. 5. Check for Overclocks If your system is overclocked (CPU, GPU, or RAM), try reverting to stock settings. 6. Check Event Viewer Open Event Viewer → Windows Logs → Application. Look for entries related to the crash for more context (e.g., faulting module). Optional: More Diagnostic Info To dig deeper, you might want to: Enable crash dumps/logging in the sim Use a tool like WinDbg or Process Monitor to trace what happened just before the crash Look for *.dmp files in: %localappdata%\CrashDumps\ If you can share the full crash dump or any surrounding logs, I can help interpret further. Would you like help locating those? Have a Wonderful Day -Paul Solk
September 25, 2025Sep 25 35 minutes ago, psolk said: With DX11? I have no issues with the app and DX12 but it still crashes DX11... Ooh, that I'm not sure! I haven't had a need to try dx11 mode in forever. i7-13700KF, 32gb DDR4 3200, RTX 4080, Win 11, MSFS 2024
September 25, 2025Sep 25 Another possibility is that the problem is with Asobo's servers, and has nothing to do with your PC or MSFS install, especially since you're getting CTD's half way through the initial loading phase, even in safe mode (when I understand your PC is trying to connect to the Asobo servers). I note another thread has been opened with someone else having the same problem. The difficulty is, I don't know how you would test for this, apart from waiting a few hours and seeing if the problem still persists. With the new Japan update and the new local legends release, the servers may be busy. Just another thought before you start dismantling your PC...
September 25, 2025Sep 25 Ok anyone experiencing crashes with DX11 and later nvidia drivers: turn off hardware accelerated GPU sheduling in windows. That did the trick for me, at least when you are using TAA, otherwise the sim crashes when loading into the flight from the map view. It pains me to say that but TAA combined with selecting a higher resolution (DSR) gives me superior image quality compared to anything that DLSS was doing. There is more contrast and sharpness in the image, better clouds and lights are actually shining at night. TAA seems to have come a long way in 2 years and shimmering issues at light poles etc. are greatly reduced by now. Downsides is that some addon airport terminal buildings are still excessively shimmering, which is due to the way they are designed. Also, frame generation doesnt work, obviously. But i dont use it anyways since its eating more VRAM and causes flickering. ill stick with DX11 and TAA for now. Edited September 25, 2025Sep 25 by Soulflight
September 26, 2025Sep 26 17 hours ago, psolk said: With DX11? I have no issues with the app and DX12 but it still crashes DX11... I would think if DX12 had a memory leak in MSFS it would be pretty well known. How are you defining memory leak? Hence the "on my system" i cant claim its a general problem. But after prolonged usage my RAM usage fills up to insane levels ruining FPS usually on landing. With DX11 this doesnt happen to me.
September 26, 2025Sep 26 Author 19 hours ago, psolk said: . Verify File Integrity If you’re using Steam: right-click Microsoft Flight Simulator → Properties → Installed Files → Verify Integrity. Thanks for the tip! I'll give it a try as soon as I get back from my rig. I'm currently on a trip, 700 km away from home. 19 hours ago, Soulflight said: turn off hardware accelerated GPU sheduling in windows Thanks for the tip! However, isn't HAGS required for DX12 DLSS frame generation? I know there's Lossless Scaling, but I find better results applying 2x in sim and then 2x with LS. 20 hours ago, psolk said: @Luis Hernandez I'm sorry if I missed it, have you tried empty Community folder? I have yet to try this. I thought Safe Mode simulated this effect. Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
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