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BeyondATC - the only ATC program not compatible with P3D

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20 minutes ago, Stavros said:

The fact that it injects and controls other traffic alongside your aircraft is one of the big selling points of the product, is it not?

Not when you use AIG Ai. If it injects that, fine. Can’t those Ai be inserted (loaded) into the sim before any ATC program is started? That’s how RC works. That way you can see Ai without needing the ATC program running.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

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20 minutes ago, GCBraun said:

AI Traffic injection and controlling are the primary reasons why I use BATC. Much more immersive to fly in a fully controlled environment. 

Where does he get the flight info and aircraft type from? What happens when airlines go bust. Does it work at every airport in the world?

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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2 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Where does he get the flight info and aircraft type from? What happens when airlines go bust. Does it work at every airport in the world?

BATC uses data from FlightRadar24. Not sure if it covers every airport in the world, but for sure those with regular scheduled flights.  

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1 minute ago, GCBraun said:

BATC uses data from FlightRadar24. Not sure if it covers every airport in the world, but for sure those with regular scheduled flights.  

Do you need to subscribe to FR24? How does it work for historical flights? If I want to depart Tokyo at 09:00 local, 01:00Z at 10:00 my time in England how would that work?

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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8 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Do you need to subscribe to FR24? How does it work for historical flights? If I want to depart Tokyo at 09:00 local, 01:00Z at 10:00 my time in England how would that work?

No, all you need to fly is included in the base 30USD price. I believe that BATC adjust its traffic based on the time you set in the sim and it does have a week of historical data.

From their FAQ:

BeyondATC uses data from FlightRadar24, using a historic week of data. This includes all IFR flights, GA included. 

https://wiki.beyondatc.net/support/faq/#atc-questions

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30 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Where does he get the flight info and aircraft type from? What happens when airlines go bust. Does it work at every airport in the world?

BATC uses a week-long snapshot of how the real-world traffic was. I can't remember the actual date, but I think it was somewhere in 2023.

On the other hand, FSHud reads your BGLs and AIG TC files and injects traffic according to that. You'll use the same tools you're using now for keeping your traffic up to date.

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@GCBraun and @Luis Hernandez, thank you both.

I still can’t see any reason why BATC wouldn’t work with P3D. Still waiting to hear from the developer.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Not when you use AIG Ai. If it injects that, fine. Can’t those Ai be inserted (loaded) into the sim before any ATC program is started? That’s how RC works. That way you can see Ai without needing the ATC program running.

Maybe not a selling point for you, specifically, Ray; but a selling point for others 😉

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55 minutes ago, Stavros said:

Maybe not a selling point for you, specifically, Ray; but a selling point for others 😉

So it seems.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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Hi - as a P3Dv5.3 user, I would have liked to move to BATC. Have been using Pro-ATC/X for many years. Is it worth upgrading to to Pro-ATC/SR or are alternative products recommended?

I am currently encountering intermittant stuttering (+/-15sec) as soon as I get an instruction to descend hence the fact that I'm possibly looking for a good alternative.

Tips / recommendations appreciated. Thank you.

Herman

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