2 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

I think you meant Bluebird Simulations. Bluebird said on Reddit that their 757 will come out before GTA 6 is released. That was based on the GTA 6 release date of May in 2026, when Bluebird said this on Reddit. Yesterday, Rockstar pushed back the release date of GTA 6 to November of 2026.  So the OP thinks that the Bluebird Simulations 757 release date will also be pushed back.

But I don't necessarily think so. When Bluebird said that on Reddit, they had May of 2026 in mind, which meant they were confident that their 757 would be released before May of 2026. I haven't read anything from Bluebird staff saying the date for their 757 has been pushed back.

Oops, I did mean Bluebird!

Yes, I agree with you.

It sounds like the "We will release before GTA6" comment was just a general timeframe (based on the GTA release timeframe at the time).

I can't imagine why Bluebird would say "Oh well, now that GTA is delayed, we'll delay our 757".   I mean, surely the two aren't related.

Unusual logic from the OP.

1 hour ago, ryanbatc said:

I read that one of the developer's home was lost in the hurricane in the Caribbean.

Really sad to hear that. Thanks for passing this on.

1 hour ago, carlanthony24 said:

Very much doubt. Plenty of people still use 2020 and refuse to go to 2024. It's a win.

Sure but 2020 is shrinking every day and 2024 is growing.

1 hour ago, carlanthony24 said:

Very much doubt. Plenty of people still use 2020 and refuse to go to 2024. It's a win.

Fact

1 minute ago, dusty_sourdough907 said:

Fact

Oh absolutely.   Just like it was a "win" when a few companies limited themselves to still only making addons for FS9, 2 years after FSX had released.  

Strangely, those developers aren't around any more.

47 minutes ago, Farlis said:

The same claim each time a new sim version come along. I'm also sure plenty of people still used FS2004 when FSX came along.

Guess how long that lasted...

Not long. Being 24 is nearly a year old It seems 2020 is still very popular.

4 minutes ago, dusty_sourdough907 said:

Fact

A few months ago 2020 had double the simmers of 2024. I just looked now, and there's only 1k in it as we speak. And that's just Steam.

6 minutes ago, starstream707 said:

Sure but 2020 is shrinking every day and 2024 is growing.

At a slow pace. Still see plenty of reports mentioning people don't even own it and rather stick with 2020.

25 minutes ago, flyforever said:

Both sims are microsoft products, so it's not necessary a bad thing for the company.

I really don't think Microsoft  cares very much at all what version people use; they just want your attention on their platform. This is not 1995 when you made money principally though selling physical media with the program on it, we are now in the attention economy. What is strange is that people here seem to care...

7 minutes ago, carlanthony24 said:

Not long. Being 24 is nearly a year old It seems 2020 is still very popular.

Yes and I am very much a 2020 user HOWEVER once SU4 drops and the two sims are virtually identical but one is no longer main thread limited and can actually use my GPU I know where I intend to move...  Being BB has now pushed to late 2026 at best it's more likely they release in 2027 which is 3 years into 2024...   

Once the add-ons people are still waiting to be available in 2024 hit plus as more and more updates (native and 3rd party) are only applied to one sim those numbers wont look that way 12 months from now when they are talking about release.

They will absolutely have missed the boat.  

And I am speaking as a 2020 user flying KEWR-SBGR in the 777 with Chaseplane in 2020 as I type but I can also read the writing on the wall and see where things are trending.

Very few people stayed on P3D v1 or V2 once it became 64 bit compatible.   2024 is about to achieve that seismic shift by changing the architecture.  

 

 

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18 minutes ago, psolk said:

Yes and I am very much a 2020 user HOWEVER once SU4 drops and the two sims are virtually identical but one is no longer main thread limited and can actually use my GPU I know where I intend to move...  Being BB has now pushed to late 2026 at best it's more likely they release in 2027 which is 3 years into 2024...   

Once the add-ons people are still waiting to be available in 2024 hit plus as more and more updates (native and 3rd party) are only applied to one sim those numbers wont look that way 12 months from now when they are talking about release.

They will absolutely have missed the boat.  

And I am speaking as a 2020 user flying KEWR-SBGR in the 777 with Chaseplane in 2020 as I type but I can also read the writing on the wall and see where things are trending.

Very few people stayed on P3D v1 or V2 once it became 64 bit compatible.   2024 is about to achieve that seismic shift by changing the architecture.  

 

 

Do you really think its going to affect them. It won't because most will want to fly it day one, you see people saying they've reinstalled P3D to fly the 747, Dash 8 the same will happen here. Even if they don't people will still buy till it can be used in 24 its not going to hurt one bit.

36 minutes ago, JYW said:

Oh absolutely.   Just like it was a "win" when a few companies limited themselves to still only making addons for FS9, 2 years after FSX had released.  

Strangely, those developers aren't around any more.

There is a difference between "only making addons for the previous version" and "making addons for both versions" (which is what Bluebird Simulations are doing).

21 minutes ago, carlanthony24 said:

Do you really think its going to affect them.

Yes and I don't think everyone is going to rush to spend a day or two re-installing 2020 to get the 757.  I absolutely think it will impact them and I've seen "maybe" a couple of people here talking about re-installing P3D for the 747.  It's a niche corner case, certainly not critical mass...  

Heck, you already see the impact of companies whose products are only available to purchase in 2020 MP for use in 2024...  Of course it impacts them.

Agree to disagree, I think releasing something for 2020 in 2026 or 2027 3 years into its successors lifecycle is missing the boat.  You seem think this will drive the masses back to 2020.   

Agree to disagree 

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9 minutes ago, psolk said:

Yes and I don't think everyone is going to rush to spend a day or two re-installing 2020 to get the 757.  I absolutely think it will impact them and I've seen "maybe" a couple of people here talking about re-installing P3D for the 747.  It's a niche corner case, certainly not critical mass...  

Heck, you already see the impact of companies whose products are only available to purchase in 2020 MP for use in 2024...  Of course it impacts them.

Agree to disagree, I think releasing something for 2020 in 2026 or 2027 3 years into its successors lifecycle is missing the boat.  You seem think this will drive the masses back to 2020.   

Agree to disagree 

Fair enough. People do absolutely rush to reinstall a sim to use aircraft's but whatever let alone a day or two because it doesn't even take that long. You've seen how many people were unhappy about PMDG stopping 2020 updates. Yes I agree agree to disagree.

27 minutes ago, psolk said:

Yes and I don't think everyone is going to rush to spend a day or two re-installing 2020 to get the 757.  I absolutely think it will impact them and I've seen "maybe" a couple of people here talking about re-installing P3D for the 747.  It's a niche corner case, certainly not critical mass...  

Heck, you already see the impact of companies whose products are only available to purchase in 2020 MP for use in 2024...  Of course it impacts them.

Agree to disagree, I think releasing something for 2020 in 2026 or 2027 3 years into its successors lifecycle is missing the boat.  You seem think this will drive the masses back to 2020.   

Agree to disagree 

Again, you're assuming the majority of the market uses MSFS2024.  According to ALL the public data, the majority of the market still uses MSFS 2020.  Thus, BB strategy seems sound and supported by the available data.