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SU4 Release?

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I have only just noticed your signature, Andy. That is some serious storage space you have there!

Christopher Low

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme

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  • As has been explained in one or more dev Q&As, this is not so. Changing the LOD rules for 2024 3D assets was an intentional design choice in order to keep performance levels high across all scales

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    They do not have a lot of time to fix all of the essential issues. My new PC is due to be delivered in around an hour, so they need to get their skates on 

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And that's after I removed the 32tb of USB attached HDD I was using for spare/backup! (I replaced that lot with a couple of WD NAS boxes). I think I've got maybe 100 TB sitting around here one way or another. Never knowingly under capacitised!

Ryzen 9 7900X, Corsair H150 AIO cooler, 64 Gb DDR5, Asus X670E Hero m/b, 3090ti, 13Tb NVMe, 8Tb SSD, 16Tb HD, 55" Philips 4k HDR monitor, EVGA 1600w ps, all in Corsair 7000D airflow case. Sims in use - 2020, 2024, XP-12 and -11, FSX/SE, P3Dv4.5 and v5.4. DCS and AFS2 installed but rarely used

On 11/25/2025 at 3:25 PM, Christopher Low said:

AMD 9800 X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU. The full specification will eventually be in my signature.

Is it up and running yet Chris?  How are you feeling about it?

Kevin Firth - AMD 9800X3D; Asus Prime X670E; 64Gb Cas30 6000 DDR5; RTX5090; AutoFPS

15 minutes ago, kevinfirth said:

Is it up and running yet Chris?  How are you feeling about it?

Not up and running yet. I just installed the RTX 4070 Super last night.

The problem I have is that I want to install MSFS 2024 on the new PC, but I am waiting for a Steam super sale! That being the case, I do not want to replace my current PC as I would be without a flight simulator. I have no intention of messing about and installing two flight simulators on the same PC.

I have stopped purchasing any addons for MSFS 2020, as my primary target for addons is now upgraded versions of a handful of my existing addons that need to be paid for (IniBuilds EGLL/LEIB; Pilot Experience Sim LDRI etc).

Christopher Low

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme

UK2000 Beta Tester

Wishing you all the best with your new PC Chris.

However, I'm confused by this comment...........

1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

I have no intention of messing about and installing two flight simulators on the same PC.

What 'messing about' do you envisage by having two sims on the same PC?

I have 5 different sims installed on my rig and  all run independently of each other and did not neccessiatate any 'messing about'.

I have since chosen for some to share certain scenery and planes and to that end I used some readily available basic utilitiey prgs. to assist me.

To my mind this is not 'messing about', in fact I quite enjoy it. Maybe, you would class trying to share between sims as a bother,

or maybe I'm miles off the mark? As they say "Doctors differ,Patients die."

Anyway again, best of luck with the new rig.

1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

Not up and running yet. I just installed the RTX 4070 Super last night.

The problem I have is that I want to install MSFS 2024 on the new PC, but I am waiting for a Steam super sale! That being the case, I do not want to replace my current PC as I would be without a flight simulator. I have no intention of messing about and installing two flight simulators on the same PC.

I have stopped purchasing any addons for MSFS 2020, as my primary target for addons is now upgraded versions of a handful of my existing addons that need to be paid for (IniBuilds EGLL/LEIB; Pilot Experience Sim LDRI etc).

How about...

https://www.keysforgames.co.uk/games/steam-games/microsoft-flight-simulator-2024/

or..

Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 Windows Account Compare Prices

Standard edition for very cheap at both

 

Kevin Firth - AMD 9800X3D; Asus Prime X670E; 64Gb Cas30 6000 DDR5; RTX5090; AutoFPS

1 hour ago, Sparkrite said:

Wishing you all the best with your new PC Chris.

However, I'm confused by this comment...........

What 'messing about' do you envisage by having two sims on the same PC?

I am only interested in using one flight simulator. I have no interest whatsoever in installing MSFS 2020 and MSFS 2024 on the same PC. It is one or the other. That may sound strange to some people, but it is how I work :smile:

EDIT: I am not altogether confident of using one of those "key" options to purchase MSFS 2024. I would prefer to get it directly from Steam. Unfortunately, almost everything apart from MSFS 2024 appears to be included in the Black Friday sale. MSFS 2020 is discounted by 60%, which is what I was rather hoping would be the case with MSFS 2024.

On a side note, the CH Flightstick Pro available at FlightStore is also not part of the Black Friday sales. I would have purchased a backup for my current joystick if that had been the case :dry:

Edited by Christopher Low

Christopher Low

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme

UK2000 Beta Tester

On 11/26/2025 at 4:21 PM, MattNischan said:

The amount of screen space required before objects switch to less detailed LODs is affected by the graphics settings. The higher the graphics settings, the longer higher detailed LODs will remain on screen before switching to less detailed LODs.

Ultimately it is up to addon developers to create LODs that are appropriate to the object screen size and that fit within the (generous IMO as of SU4) rules that govern which LOD is displayed. If addon developers choose to remove objects completely at certain LODs or not provide lower detail LODs at all, that would be up to the individual developer to address.

AIG's MSFS native traffic models are following the LOD rules set up in the SDK, but still have the vanishing nose landing gear issue. So it does seem like there is a bug in system.

Edited by Tuskin38

6 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

I am not altogether confident of using one of those "key" options to purchase MSFS 2024. I would prefer to get it directly from Steam.

Agree! 

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan

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On 11/26/2025 at 8:53 PM, MattNischan said:

This has been changed to be 5x smaller (0.1% screen-size).

Is this only for native 2024 assets please Matt, or does it apply backwards compatibility-wise to 2020 assets in 2024 as well?  I'm asking because @Kaiii3 has said the AIG models are 2020 and the model info for those specify a minsize of 0.5.

Kevin Firth - AMD 9800X3D; Asus Prime X670E; 64Gb Cas30 6000 DDR5; RTX5090; AutoFPS

57 minutes ago, kevinfirth said:

Is this only for native 2024 assets please Matt, or does it apply backwards compatibility-wise to 2020 assets in 2024 as well?  I'm asking because @Kaiii3 has said the AIG models are 2020 and the model info for those specify a minsize of 0.5.

Test-Package for ASOBO will be delivered to them next week so we can get a feedback on what is the issue.

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