8 hours ago, martin-w said:

Currently, Australia has a record breaking heatwave.

Australia extreme temperature history sample:

50.7C January 1960 and January 2022

50.1C January 1939

49.8C January 1979

49.7C January 1939

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extreme_temperatures_in_Australia

Australia has had extreme heatwaves before, looks like in 1939 and 1960.

We don't really know what the exact temperatures were during heatwaves before that, but these things are cyclical and happen over and over again over the millennia.  No need for radical ideas or "solutions".

Dave

Stop the presses! 1 degree! OMG!

But to move to another far more important issue: Earthquakes due to gravitational pull! This June! You will be warned below!

 

 

I'm sick of this cold weather!  Where is my global warming?

BTW, I'm pretty sure all the Polar Bears in Norway are wearing these hats.  It's all fake science😉

2 hours ago, tdflightsim said:

I'm pretty sure all the Polar Bears in Norway are wearing these hats.

Maybe he survived because he made a snack of it’s previous owner 👨‍🍳

27 minutes ago, Mike A said:

Maybe he survived because he made a snack of it’s previous owner 👨‍🍳

That would be this picture.

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2 hours ago, tdflightsim said:

That would be this picture.

Alright, that's funny! 😄 

You do realize we're not allowed to talk about any country mentioned in the news. Not even mention it's name. For example, I have a nephew who lives in a certain northern state, but I dare not say the name. Even making jokes is frowned upon. 

I got warned about making a joke about Country Name Not Allowed deploying its weather as a first strike. 😄 

Noses are red
Fingers are blue
I'm tired of Winter
How about you?

Hook

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Okay Hook, I was pushing the envelope a little😁 

11 hours ago, LHookins said:

Noses are red
Fingers are blue
I'm tired of Winter
How about you?

Where I live we don't really have  Winter anymore. We just have an extended monsoon season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ce3kk9xn6r3t?post=asset%3A27feda82-1d71-4bf4-ae7a-e0971cce503c#post

Splosh!

1 hour ago, tdflightsim said:

Okay Hook, I was pushing the envelope a little😁 

Maybe it won't get us shut down, but I found it genuinely funny. 😄 I saved it to my library of memes. I'm glad you posted it.

Even if it might contradict my personal beliefs, whatever those may be, things like this allow us to laugh at ourselves. Some of us can still do that. 😄 

Thanks again.

Hook

 

2 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

Splosh!

Reminds me of an old TV advertisement:

"How are you getting to work?"
"... Backstroke!"

😄

Hook

23 hours ago, dave2013 said:

Australia has had extreme heatwaves before, looks like in 1939 and 1960

 

I know. I was, as you know, responding to your "go figure" remark that it's cold in US. As I said, thats local and does not contradict long term average global temp increases. You see, as soon as its cold in their neck of the woods, the anti-warming crew claim its not happening, but when there's a hot spell they dont claim the oposite. If your "go figure" comment didnt imply that, fair enough, ignore me. 

On 1/30/2026 at 4:44 PM, dave2013 said:

Oh, BTW, both arctic and antarctic ice is increasing, not decreasing.  The minimum was reached in 2012 and has been increasing ever since: https://myemail.constantcontact.com/Polar-Ice-Grows----A-Lot.html?soid=1101509381788&aid=RnEKX7yoBR0

I see now that the article about polar bears is from the BBC, the epitome of fake news.

Dave

 

Look at your source, Dave. Funded by energy executives.

Interesting that you feel BBC is fake news but not the anti-science organisation funded by energy executives that your link was from.

 

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CO2 Coalition is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization established in 2015 that argues increased atmospheric carbon dioxide is beneficial for the planet, contradicting the scientific consensus on climate change. Based in Arlington, Virginia, it aims to promote the idea that carbon emissions promote life and economic growth. 

 

 

 

 

Key details about the CO2 Coalition: 

• Purpose: The group claims to "educate" policymakers and the public on the benefits of
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• Leadership: It was founded by figures including William Happer, a Princeton physicist and former White House National Security Council senior director.
• Funding & Background: The group was formed from the George C. Marshall Institute, a think tank known for questioning climate change science. It has received funding from energy executives and conservative foundations.
• Stance: They argue that fossil fuel emissions are not a primary driver of harmful climate change and that more
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The Coalition's claims are widely disputed by the scientific community, and it is recognized as a climate change contrarian organization. "

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On 1/30/2026 at 4:44 PM, dave2013 said:

Oh, BTW, both arctic and antarctic ice is increasing, not decreasing.  The minimum was reached in 2012 and has been increasing ever since: https://myemail.constantcontact.com/Polar-Ice-Grows----A-Lot.html?soid=1101509381788&aid=RnEKX7yoBR0

I see now that the article about polar bears is from the BBC, the epitome of fake news.

Dave

 

Im sure you'll complain that this response is AI generated from its own ultra rapid trawling of the internet. Well, if you'd like links from various scientific publications then I can oblige. But you'll have to wait till I have a working PC, I'm on my phone, currently, which isn't ideal.

 

 

"Yes, both Arctic and Antarctic sea ice are generally decreasing, contributing to a net global decline in sea ice extent. While Arctic sea ice has shown a steady, long-term, and significant decline for decades, Antarctic sea ice was relatively stable or slightly increasing until a dramatic reversal around 2014, with record lows observed in recent years. 

Arctic Sea Ice Trend

• Rapid Decline: The Arctic is losing sea ice at a substantial rate, particularly in the summer and autumn.
• Minimums: The yearly minimum (September) extent has decreased by roughly 40% to 50% since satellite records began in 1979.
• Future Projection: The Arctic Ocean is expected to be practically ice-free during summer by the 2030s-2050s. 

Antarctic Sea Ice Trend

• Recent Reversal: Previously stable or slightly increasing, Antarctic sea ice has shown a significant, abrupt decline since 2014.
• Record Lows: Recent years have seen record-low maximum and minimum extents.
• Variability: Unlike the consistent downward trend in the Arctic, the Antarctic has historically experienced high year-to-year variability. 

Global Impact

• Net Decrease: Combined, the two poles show a clear downward trend in total global sea ice, with a net decline of nearly one million km² over the past few years.
• Ice-Albedo Feedback: In both regions, the loss of bright, reflective ice exposes dark, heat-absorbing ocean water, which accelerates further melting and global warming. "

Again, I feel compelled to rebut Martin's assertions.  I will not engage in another 20-page debate on this issue, but present further evidence to back up my claims and refute Martin's:

https://www.nasa.gov/centers-and-facilities/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum/ - this is NASA which admit that Antarctic sea ice has been growing.  They try to claim that they expected this, but remember that these are the same people who have been saying for 30 years that *all* the ice caps would disappear - they will never admit that they were wrong.

Here's a few about Arctic sea ice - https://realclimatescience.com/2021/09/record-increase-in-arctic-sea-ice/#gsc.tab=0

https://www.climatedepot.com/2021/09/29/arctic-ice-coverage-is-up-substantially-so-media-ignores-it/

https://climatechangedispatch.com/climate-fail-arctic-sea-ice-growing-nearing-highest-extent-in-two-decades/

 - Note the quotes from articles written 15-20 years ago where scientists claimed that the Arctic ice would be almost gone by now.  Also, NASA claims that the Arctic has lost on average 13% of its mass per year, but if this were the case, sea levels would have risen 100ft by now, flooding most coastal areas.

http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/?intent=121 - NASA data again.  Note that according to them, sea levels have increased by a mere 100mm over the past 30+ years - that's just 4 inches, a far cry from the dozens of feet that they predicted

https://clintel.org/world-climate-declaration/, https://clintel.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/WCD-250104.pdf - this is a huge list of signatories to the climate declaration.  They are not all "climate scientists", but many are scientists in that field or related fields.  These are well-educated doctors and scientists who are not part of the fake "97%" consensus.

https://climateataglance.com/

http://www.isthereglobalcooling.com/

https://www.econlib.org/archives/2014/03/16_not_97_agree.html

Dave

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