February 12Feb 12 A long time ago I had issues with audio when 24H2 arrived so rolled back to 23H2 ever since. Now I'm having an issue with daily deactivation of Win 11 and MS Help suggested I update to 25H2, so checking with anyone here using an AMDX3D CPU on an MSI board to see if all's well w/ 25H2, or not. Thanks in advance Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
February 12Feb 12 Currently no issues with a fully updeted W11 on a B850 board using a Sounblaster Soundcard and a 9800X3D. Somehow those annoying sound crackers vanished. Lucky me... Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
February 12Feb 12 No issues with any Win11 version for my AMD 9950X3D on my MSI Godlike (which I would never ever recommend to anyone). Other than the usual conflicts between MSI and Corsair iCUE and nVidia software that required “special attention” and several BIOS/EFI updates to get to a point of somewhat workable (as in the pump speeds, fan color changes with temp, speed curves, RAM change RGB changes with temp, and temp displays on pumps and waterblock). If you’re using MSI onboard audio, dump it, and disable it in the BIOS/EFI … it has zero noise isolation and can trigger whine in speakers. Move to USB external audio, FAR FAR cleaner audio solution. FYI, 26H1 is the current Win11 (as of Feb 10th) but may not be released to everyone yet. 26H2 will come later this year. Edited February 12Feb 12 by SayAgain Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan
February 12Feb 12 No issues here either, specs below. AMD Ryzen 7800x3d 64gb DDR5, Sapphire 7900 GPU MSSI Tomahawk AM5 M/Board. 1x 4tb Crucial M.2 SSD, 3x 2tb Crucial M.2 SSD's
February 12Feb 12 Author 38 minutes ago, SayAgain said: If you’re using MSI onboard audio, dump it, and disable it in the BIOS/EFI … it has zero noise isolation and can trigger whine in speakers. No issues whatsoever with onboard audio in 23H2 and have no whine in my Sony studio headphones. So you're not using onboard audio so your testimony on this topic doesn't apply well to my situation. Thanks for your thoughts though, cheers. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
February 12Feb 12 15 minutes ago, Noel said: no whine in my Sony studio headphones. Headphones are not the same as powered speakers … headphones have higher impedance. 15 minutes ago, Noel said: So you're not using onboard audio so your testimony on this topic doesn't apply well to my situation ?? you said: 1 hour ago, Noel said: A long time ago I had issues with audio when 24H2 So that is not your situation? Anyway, the audio drivers you should be using will be provided by MSI …. you can use whatever Win11 provides but that’s a generic driver. Edited February 12Feb 12 by SayAgain Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan
February 12Feb 12 Author 1 hour ago, SayAgain said: So that is not your situation? Anyway, the audio drivers you should be using will be provided by MSI …. you can use whatever Win11 provides but that’s a generic driver. My situation is I have no problem w/ 23H2 and audio coming out of MSI's onboard audio solution, and did with 24H2 despite lots of troubleshooting actions at the time. I use the dedicated driver from MSI which was updated shortly after 24H2 debuted for me, and that driver nor other options solved the audio issues I had then, so I rolled back to 23H2 after finding no fix. My only need here is to know if audio issues are no longer the case w/ MSI mainboard audio in 25H2, and so far others here state no issues but didn't specify if using onboard audio. I'll venture a guess most people do live with onboard audio these days. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
February 12Feb 12 20 minutes ago, Noel said: I'll venture a guess most people do live with onboard audio these days. No idea what most live with, but if you’re accurate and they do indeed live with onboard audio, it might explains why so many complain of “GPU coil whine” when it’s really an issue with the onboard audio and not the GPU. To your specific issue, when I was using onboard audio drivers Realtek HD Universal v6.9771.1 Feb/Mar 2025 (no longer am) on my MSI board I had NO issues with any version of Win11 from 24 to 25H2. I believe Realtek HD Universal 6.0.9700.1 (Sep 2024) was released to address some user reports for Win11 24H2. On a side note: too bad MSFS 2024 doesn’t support ASIO drivers (much better and low latency). Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan
February 12Feb 12 Had audio issues myself, I disabled all of the "HD AUDIO" items in device manager. No more problems. Edited February 12Feb 12 by Mike_CFII_MEL Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
February 12Feb 12 24 minutes ago, SayAgain said: No idea what most live with, but if you’re accurate and they do indeed live with onboard audio, it might explains why so many complain of “GPU coil whine” when it’s really an issue with the onboard audio and not the GPU. To your specific issue, when I was using onboard audio drivers Realtek HD Universal v6.9771.1 Feb/Mar 2025 (no longer am) on my MSI board I had NO issues with any version of Win11 from 24 to 25H2. I believe Realtek HD Universal 6.0.9700.1 (Sep 2024) was released to address some user reports for Win11 24H2. On a side note: too bad MSFS 2024 doesn’t support ASIO drivers (much better and low latency). There's an argument to be had why some people bios disable onboard audio completely and go with a drop in card or external usb (DAC) device. For me it is two fold with the primary reason certainly to sidestep any "potential" issues based on the design decisions or build quality of the MB audio components or how it was integrated with the rest of the Motherboard. Now for Noel's issue it may get fixed with a driver update or something else down the line but i guess my question is why mess with all that when you can streamline the entire experience with a decent DAC such as a Fosi K7 or sound blaster X5? and not have to worry about audio issues (Unless your system is really messed up of course) If you know .. you know. Also @Noel I know we do not see eye to eye on most things but sincerely hope you eventually find a fix. Cheers Edited February 12Feb 12 by Maxis AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2 Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders
February 12Feb 12 My MSFS machine is an MSI X670e Carbon Wifi and 9800X3D...using W11 25H2 and the onboard Realtek audio with latest driver from MSI. No issues here (audio to speakers via the optical SPDIF/TOSLink). I also run W11 25H2 on an MSI X870e Carbon Wifi with a 7800X3D, audio via analog line out from the onboard Realtek device. No issues observed there either. (caveat: I do not run MSFS on that box) Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
February 12Feb 12 6 hours ago, Noel said: Now I'm having an issue with daily deactivation of Win 11 Frankly if I had that, I would reinstall the OS My current FS machine doesn't have an MSI board but even so I've had problems in the past with other mb manufacturers onboard audio. In fact my current asus X670e board had audio problems, which I solved by using a drop-in card. Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
February 12Feb 12 Author 2 hours ago, Mace said: Frankly if I had that, I would reinstall the OS Windows Live Help suggested the reason this is happening is likely due to the fact I installed a 2nd copy of the same OEM license on another partition to effect a dual-boot. Despite the fact the OEM EULA is only good for one install on one hardware config it let me--I wasn't aware of the limitation. I've since deleted the 2nd install and its partition but the prompt to activate Windows continues to happen usually after every reboot, and using the Troubleshoot choice re-activates it. So I will go ahead and use Windows 11 Installation Assistant to bump up to 25H2, and I know my hardware is compatible. If that happens to solve the activation issue great, if not I will reconnect w/ Windows Live Help and ask what I can do next as I do have a valid license for my one install. I'll guess the audio issues will not be the case this time w/ 25H2. I read many others had audio issues w/ 24H2 in particular, so I'm bypassing that version. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
February 13Feb 13 Author The update to 25H2 went smoothy, updated chipset and audio drivers, and all was good in MSFS 2024 except the registry hack to activate sharpening in NVCP was reset to absent, but a quick edit and it's back. Remains to be seen if the deactivation issue is resolved yet but so far so good. Cheers n thanks for your replies. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
February 13Feb 13 18 minutes ago, Noel said: the registry hack to activate sharpening in NVCP Sharpening is available via the control panel … called “Image Scaling” now (combines scaling and sharpening), you can also get just Sharpening via GeForce Experience overlay … you shouldn’t need any registry hack? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan
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