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MSFS | Expert Series 2: The Piper M600 by FSReborn

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3 hours ago, vbazillio said:

Just out of curiosity, is it fun to press the Halo button? :)

I pressed the HALO button last night. I was 30 miles from Mammath-Yosemite and the plane correctly headed back there. It descended and went onto final approach (all looking good) then it started doing a never-ending hold 10 miles from the airport.

I believe it was doing this because speed was too high (200kts at 2000 AGL!). I've noticed that the AT cannot fully 'take over' the throttles and that the user's throttle position seems to interfere with it. With AT on, if you move your throttle axis, it moves the throttle in the cockpit and upsets the AT, but doesn't disconnect it.

In short the AT is borked at present, as per my observations.

The failed HALO autoland may also have been due to a HOLD as part of the target airport's procedure. But the real HALO system would disregard any holds.

Compared to the FFX 2024 default Visionjet autoland capability, the M600 was pretty disappointing.

Bill 😎
FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • Bluesky Grumman AA5 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 
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  • Well I bought it (a no brainer at less than 18 USD with my PD discount)! I like it a lot. Sounds, flight model seem solid. The model and textures are quite nice externally. Speculation on my part - th

  • I don't think it's a fair comparison as the M500 is strictly an FSReborn product. The M600 is, well, made for Microsoft, on behalf of FSReborn. It's intentionally made at a certain standard (set by

  • So I didn't wait as I said I would and I would seriously advise anyone considering this one to rent it first. It was in my hangar for five minutes - I don't even want to try it for 24 hours, it's that

1 hour ago, TristanAbyss said:

Hi Guys,

probably a dumb question.... But how do I enable the EFB? I tried different configs and liveries, but there is no EFB visible or any clickspot I was able to discover...

Thanks in advance,

Tris

There is no EFB ..............

There are a few option for the M600 in the default 2024 EFB. That's it. There is no FSR EFB with all the realism options.

This is a really basic addon in terms of ancillary features.

Bill 😎
FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • Bluesky Grumman AA5 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 
TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro
9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000
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40 minutes ago, JYW said:

I think anyone who has the M500 will be shocked at how much lower the quality is of the M600. The jagged stripes on the default liveries are appallingly low resolution. Cockpit textures are fuzzy and LODs are too aggressive.

4 hours ago, St Mawgan said:

So I didn't wait as I said I would and I would seriously advise anyone considering this one to rent it first. It was in my hangar for five minutes - I don't even want to try it for 24 hours, it's that poor.

Well, this is highly disappointing. I never picked up the 500 due to the FSR branding (a minor thing since I know it can be addressed by community mods) and the lack of the standby AI. I had high hopes that the 600 would be an exciting, and better, alternative. Sounds like no, and with no direct support from FSR itself? Yikes.

Thanks for the heads-up guys!

Scott

23 minutes ago, tttocs said:

Well, this is highly disappointing.

I think there's a major issue with LODs (for at least some users, on some configs)

This is with texture resolution set to HIGH in MSFS2024. (Note that the decals textures are fine. But take a look at the stripes on this default livery 🫢)

I don't use MSFS dynamic mode, nor AutoFPS, so nothing is 'pulling' the quality down here. In these pics I had 39.9 FPS (locked to 40) with frame gen giving an effective 79 FPS.

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interior roof textures :-

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I was expecting an upgrade to the M500 which I generally enjoy. In all honesty it's a huge downgrade and I'd say that unless you really need a few extra knots, this purchase is not worth it, if you have the M500. For the £23 I paid for this in it's current form, I'd rate it 2 stars.

It's a downgrade to the M500 in terms of textures, functions, immersion and bugs. It's an upgrade in sounds.

Edited by JYW

Bill 😎
FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • Bluesky Grumman AA5 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 
TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro
9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000
Former PPL IR, grounded by diabetes. Now UK NPPL(M)

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Sorry, I don't know it better currently how to post screenshots properly here at AVSIM

But above shows clearly there's no issue with resolution in general.
Must be some individual hickup

Edited by guenseli

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2 minutes ago, guenseli said:

Then clearly there's an issue.

There are other pics on the internet with textures looking like mine. And there's no way I can manipulate the rendered image to have nice crisp decals but appalling base textures. It looks to be a LOD issue, rather than substantively low resolution textures. But what is going on?

There are issues like this in the interior of the FSR Sirius too (in the AP panel) that I reported to Torsen.

EDIT: just tested at my end with texture resolution set to Ultra :- (Looks better but click on the pic to see that close up, the livery resolution is still very low)

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Edited by JYW

Bill 😎
FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • Bluesky Grumman AA5 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 
TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro
9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000
Former PPL IR, grounded by diabetes. Now UK NPPL(M)

10 minutes ago, JYW said:

This is with texture resolution set to HIGH in MSFS2024 :- (Note that the decals textures are fine. But take a look at the stripes on this default livery 🫢)

That is just awful! Graphics that poor in a 2026 product is well below my buy/no-buy line. Add in bugs which may be addressed eventually, but may not given the support structure? Hard pass and as noted above VERY disappointing.

Scott

Would have expected some better internal textures and career mode support.

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13 minutes ago, guenseli said:

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What resolution are you running the sim on?

I'm only on 1080p but still, have never seen textures look as poor as this.

Bill 😎
FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • Bluesky Grumman AA5 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 
TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro
9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000
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5 minutes ago, tttocs said:

That is just awful! Graphics that poor in a 2026 product is well below my buy/no-buy line.

1 minute ago, amsfsx02501 said:

Would have expected some better internal textures and career mode support.

Come on, what a drama again.
have a look at my screenhots ... there's some individual settings or streaming or whatever problem.
On my side everthing is ok

What I mean with it is, that not the addon in general is that bad. There's some hickup, yes, but it's not that FSR has released something like that.

Edited by guenseli

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1 minute ago, guenseli said:

Come on, what a drama again.
have a look at my screenhots ... there's some individual settings or streaming or whatever problem.
On my side everthing is ok

If you want to dismiss some users seeing texture resolution that looks as bad as this as "a drama", just because it's crisp on your screen, then that's your call.

I am streaming on a 8Gb connection and everything else in the sim is crisp.

Again, if you want to dismiss it that I just have some low setting somewhere, then everything else in the sim is crisp.

The problem is with LODs, that's clear to see. But it is a problem. This won't get solved by FSR if people deny the issue, as part of a 'FSR is God' narrative 🙂 It's a v1 release and problems are to be expected. But there's definitely something going on with LODs with this addon.

Edited by JYW

Bill 😎
FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • Bluesky Grumman AA5 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 
TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro
9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000
Former PPL IR, grounded by diabetes. Now UK NPPL(M)

Just now, guenseli said:

Come on, what a drama again.
have a look at my screenhots ... there's some individual settings or streaming or whatever problem.
On my side everthing is ok

Just absorbing information for a potential buying decision on an add-on I'm interested in. When experienced users who's opinions I generally value see issues, I have concerns. I also have concerns about not having support directly from FSR.

That's not drama, it's absorbing information and discussing it.

Your input is appreciated and considered as well, of course.

Scott

24 minutes ago, guenseli said:

But above shows clearly there's no issue with resolution in general.

I agree.

The issue is definitely with LODs.

Edited by JYW

Bill 😎
FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • Bluesky Grumman AA5 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 
TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro
9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000
Former PPL IR, grounded by diabetes. Now UK NPPL(M)

I refer to guys which stating because of your screenshots that this product have been released with this bad textures in 2026 and that they would have expected better internal textures in general.

That is plain wrong because this addon was obvisously created with better textures.

I can see that there's sth wrong on your side, if its your systems fault or some bug from the addon I can't say.

But of course this addon is not created in general with such bad textures as you and others say here.

If you couldn't properly understand what I mean I' sorry, it's maybe because I'm no native speaker.
But try to understand what I want to say and don't call me a word not allowed. That's rude and not true.
I just want to avoid that wrong statements start to spread ...
(however that's nearly impossible to avoid at AVSIM, I know)

Edited by guenseli

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