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Great. My fears were baseless then. I knew msfs was initially relatively easy on the system but I figured after 12 World Updates, added weather enhancements an AI traffic it has become performance killer suited only for newest generation of hardware.

Yes I plan to do some overclocking. The original 3.50 GHz has been enough to keep my XPlane + Toliss Airbus combination on ~40-45 FPS. But now I will need all the power I can squeeze out. I will try Bert's recommendation: 4.1

Many thanks to all of you. I have a much better perspective now and things look much better than I thought. Yes, I was initially put off by reading so many posts with 11-12000 processors and 4090 cards in their signatures, while I can't even run win11 nor install an nvme ssd. Ok, so heading to Steam with my credit card. Thank you once again.

As always very late to the show, I would love to try MSFS, but I believe there is no trial (as in Xplane). Is it worth even considering spending $60 to run MSFS on my 10+ years old pc? I7 4770K (3.5 GHz) 16G memory GTX 1660 Ti (6G) I read it works quite well on old hardware, but mine is maybe bit too old. Still I remember seeing similar specs in some of your signatures. I would be satisfied with default aircraft/scenery (at least for the time being) and with fps around 20. I have single monitor 24'' 1920x1200 Any advice? Daniel

I bet someone is still using Microsoft Flight. Maybe so rarely that it didn't make it to the list.

I love fsuipc. I hate the reason fsuipc exists. Do we really still need this kind of addons? Can't developers finally built features like this natively into the sim? I remember using it maybe 15 years ago. It's 2020. Once again I see endless stream of comming addons you have to use to have a decent sim, accompanied by endless tweaking and fight for fps. Sorry for the rant, it's a bit off-topic. Fspuic on it's own is great as a program.

So what is exactly your speed (lowest and avg)? I can squeeze only 10 Mb/s out of my modem (by Ookla). Would it be flyable?

Thanks for this. It encouraged me to purcase. I have I7 4770K, GTX 1660Ti 6Gb, same resolution.and memory. Even "poor" simmers like us will enjoy for a while, and next year when big birds come (pmdg and co.) I'll think about upgrade.

Like most, I am thrilled with every new video from developers but also increasingly concerned: how much will this cost? Such effort and level of details could easily justify the $500+ price for some business application of the same complexity. With each new update we are pleasently surprised by MS and I hope at the release there will be one more pleasent surprise by announcing a reasonable price tag, wether one time or subscription.

Great pics of my favorite ac. I'll have to take your word for it. I see only the hangar in the background 😎

Beautiful. But, as I always mention, I would like to see some list of add-ons used and basic pc spec. (Nitpicking: are baro settings supposed to still be Std while landing? Just kidding)

Living in SE Europe it's hard for me to believe that someone from USA/Canada considers $70 to be too much for such a complex plane. The fact is that prices of top addons have exceeded $100 long time ago and I'm afraid sometime next year we might see planes between $150-200. Now 777 at almost twice as Cloudmaster, that's something I myself can't afford too.

Beautiful. Hard to tell the difference between RW and sim these days.

Very nice - but as I wrote in another thread, I would really appreciate if all posters develop a habit to give some more specs at least on what is beyond default. DS

Ok, this sounds encouraging. Thank you both for your analisys. I'll definitely buy it (and if disappointed I can always rollback to fsx). (This hobby is getting more and more expensive)

There were some posts about this GPU few months ago, but now, full XP11 being released, can anyone with a gtx 1060 6Gb please share his experience? I know it is far from top class but 1070 costs some $200 more (at least in my part of the world where hardware prices are insane - 1080 is of course science fiction for me). I have an I7 4770K and 16G mem and single 24'' monitor 1920x1200, and one day I would also like to throw IXEG plane in the equation. Is it possible to have decent performance or should I continue to thicken my savings account? Thanks Daniel S.

Ahh, got it. So I went to YouTube and yes, the OP has described everything there. Thank you Jim. Daniel S.

For those of us not so familiar with xplane could you please list addons you used (weather, scenery, plane), maybe your system's specs too? (Shouldn't there be some rule for everybody posting in in video & photo forums to mention those things?)

So how is it like to make an aircraft on xplane platform from a developer point of view? Is it generally easier than FSX/P3D? Do you have more options? Do you still have to apply many programming tricks to bypass limitations or does it work better out of the box? Is it more satisfying and rewarding to program for x-plane? Being a developer myself (not FS) I would like to hear some comparison and verdict from PMDG programmers. Daniel Sagner

Just build a config with Haswell I7-4770k on Asus Z87-C motherboard. What's driving me crazy is the CPU cooler Thermaltake CL-P0607 NIC C4 4in1. Both fans are running full speed all the time. The noise is like in a real plane :( . I changed bios settings on „silent“ or „manual“ but it does not respond at all. Tried also with Asus Fan Xpert. The connector has three pins while mobo has four, so I guess there's no help. Does anyone have some suggestion? One would expect this class of coolers to have better controls. CPU temperature is about 28C(80F) while running Xplane (in a cold room), so that is not the issue. (With such low temperatures I am tempted to remove both fans and leave it just to passive cooling at least before summer comes.) Thank you Daniel

Yeah, weather, seasons, torque bug are on my top list too. Everybody wants ATC&AI but I think there would be too much effort needed to make a satisfying intelligent voice communication with pilot, taking into account AI, weather, SIDs, STARs etc. Projects like this are called Expert systems for human-computer interaction and are quite complex and to me it seems it still lies in the future. (Then again, I never tried VOX-ATC and the like; maybe the future is closer than I think) Daniel

Is Nvidia also preferred choice for Xplane (like for FSX) or is Radeon fine too?

If you have FSX nicely set up and spent much money on many add-ons, it's logical if you hesitate to even think about Xplane. It would have to be significantly better in all aspect to make the shift, and right now it doesn't seem so much better. But what would you recommend to someone brand new in FS world trying to decide about the platform, and didn't yet spend on anything except good hardware? Would Xplane be the natural choice instead of so much tweaking, modifications, and limitations when going down the FSX/P3D route? Daniel

I was flying on this route in real life few years ago (as a passenger of course) and I can tell you first hand it looks very realistic. Dan

Thank you, I have a much clearer perspective now. Looks really promissing. Downloading demo... Daniel