ADamiani

Yeah, apparently a bloke with a mustache bought three of them ......

Exactly! Why can't people understand that not everything is measurable on a linear, one dimensional scale? THIS is not necessarily better or worse than THAT! My idea of the perfect simulator for home use is the flight model, system representation, and smoothness of Aerowinx PSX (but with more airplanes) with the runway and airport environment of X-Plane, an intelligent ATC that is not available from anyone at this time, improved weather and real traffic in relation to when and where you are flying (also historic weather and traffic, with related ATC). I'm pretty happy with the world representation we have in X-Plane and only from time to time I like to experiment with the visuals of some places in FlightSimulator (after a while you get tired of buzzing your own building). But I do not demand everyone else to share the same priorities, of course. Andrea

FU 2 - 3 were true masterpieces. And cool boxes! They must be hidden somewhere in a closet. A.

Here's my list: 0) NO STUTTERS NOR PAUSES AT ALL: they kill immersion. No late texture loading. 1) Flight Model (more inertia, both rotational and linear, is needed, plus some more pet hates, like behavior on the ground) 2) ATC 3) Weather and its visual representation 4) Perfect representation of runways under all visibility conditions A.

Now you're making me feel so old!!!!! A.

Accurate reproduction of bass frequencies is no easy feat. Even if MSFS had a perfect sound generator, you would still need some very, very hi-end amplifier with lots of power and some large speakers to obtain a faithful reproduction of low frequencies at appropriate sound pressure levels. BTW: what many people think are bass frequencies are actually distortion due to final stage clipping. So, as a seasoned hi-end enthusiast, my take is that MSFS and ASOBO shouldn't be blamed. A.

Yup, no stutters for me with this mod. My prime suspect was the streaming and this would seem to confirm it. A.

So I think in your case the best solution is not to run it at all. Quite the opposite for me, go figure. A.

Problems here in Rome, Italy, as well. The game is complaining about my bandwidth (2.5 Gb/s optical to my home router). A.

I wouldn't even call it a mod: nothing is running inside the game. How can it make it unstable when it's just downloading the same tiles from a different server? A.

AFTER they fix Italy .... If no patch is out in in a week I am going to delete the whole WU9 downgrade. A.

Let's close this. 1) Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 is the best accomplishment in the history of the human race. 2) When in doubt, see 1). This should settle it nicely. Cheers A.

Believe what you prefer. Not my problem really. Not only I have read the PDF, I have the maths skills and experience to understand that what they are doing is really cool. And I showed the same appreciation for the flightmodel info they published a year ago. Which doesn't mean I need to believe that this is the best flight model or the best representation of the world ever made by Mankind. There are others, some of which are far more accurate. Which is good, because this means that we can probably have something better in the future. If we limit ourselves to flightsimming games, then yes, in that context this is the best world model available. In general, no, it isn't. Cheers A.

But he didn't say "for a game/simulator" ... A.

That's exactly what I wrote. I do not consider it solved at all, I think it should not be too hard to do (although not so easy as someone may think) and for this reason PC flight simming is becoming increasingly less appealing to me. Absolutely. I enjoy a lot Aerowinx PSX which is the closest I can get to my ideal sim, but that's about it. A better digital model of the whole Earth exists. More than one in fact. It is not famous, and I am not going to say anything more. But I think it is easy to figure, and some research on the web may be useful. MSFS is not "the best digital model of the whole earth ever created by mankind". Maybe the only one available to gamers. Anyway I think that Google Maps can get better than that if they want to. They have the technology, the infrastructure, the know-how and the data. A.

Sorry, I totally disagree. If you say that is "the easy part of the problem", I can't understand why there is no commercially available flightsim that solves it. Some of them solve some aspects, only to fail spectacularly with others. So as you can see I am no fan of any of the sims out there. If you think that this is "the best digital model of the whole earth ever created by mankind" I am afraid you need to do some more research. Best A.

I agree. Quality control is totally unknown I am afraid. BTW: I suspect there is some rule that says they have to release new content each month, ready or not, just to keep the game rolling. Too bad updates are mandatory, so they tend to break stuff and make people unhappy, and there is nothing you can do about it. If trees are not fixed and PG looks bad, I'll revert to the standard version. At least we can uninstall World Updates. A.

I'm not sure I understand. So when SU5 kills most of the beauty of the sim, or when another "update" makes clouds ugly, and another one fills Italy with tall trees everywhere, not to mention the spikes in the terrain we experienced with associated stutters, and I am forgetting many more examples, I should refrain from complaining because the sim is a fantastic technical achievement? Sorry, no. And I am not buying any addon for exactly the same reason: I don't understand where this thing is going; before SU5 I was totally happy and going to buy addons. After SU5 and other mishaps, I decided not to buy a single addon, because it is possible that in a few months I will no longer use MSFS2020. A.

Different priorities. Number one for me is the flight model, which includes absolute smoothness under all circumstances and the right feeling of inertia. Then Cockpit graphics and ergonomics, Systems, Airport and Runway visuals, ATC Simulation, Weather simulation with accurate clouds, rain, and seasons. Not saying that buzzing your own house or overflying some interesting places is not fun, because it is. But it's just that, fun. Which is something we also need after a stressful day, but is pretty limited. Unfortunately, it is also the most important attractor for big numbers, so the simulator of my dreams is probably never going to happen. A.

I do not agree. While for VFR the photoreal scenery is really nice to have, I don't think it's the most important thing in a flight simulator. There are other things that I look for and are, in my opinion, much more important than visuals. A.

I can confirm that there are too many trees and most of them are too tall. There are trees in areas where there are none in reality (via del Corso, the one which connects piazza del polo to Piazza Venezia) and the area around it and the Pantheon toward piazza Navona have virtually no trees in the real world. Last time I checked: this Sunday. This is unfortunate because it destroys the illusion. Too many trees, and some of them too tall, also in the area where I live. Also, some roads and especially bridges end abruptly. Buildings are better now. Flying low and slow on a Cessna I can see the windows of my home. It's more detailed than before now, from a normal height (1000ft) it's a satisfactory experience. If it weren't for the trees ... A.

For historical reasons, Los Angeles - San Diego is a great flight. It reminds me of the good ol' times with Sublogic ATP Flight Assignment (it was the first flight, and the aircraft was a 737) A.

With WU9 coming out tomorrow (Italy and Malta) I would suggest any flight between two Italian cities. It will take between 40 to 90 minutes and it will be quite visually great. I would suggest Rome Fiumicino (LIRF) or Ciampino (LIRA), Palermo (LICJ), Olbia (LIEO), Milan Linate (LIML), Naples (LIRN), Florence (LIRQ), Bologna (LIPE), Reggio Calabria (LICR, nice procedure on IGS13), Genova (LIMJ) A.

OT: for some reason when I read this sentence I heard it in my mind with the voice of Peter Sellers. And I started to laugh 😅. \OT

The HOSTS file is under my control as administrator of the machine. The day Microsoft tells me that I cannot decide about my PC network connections, I will say goodbye to Windows and never turn back. All my other computers are Linux already. Just one left. There's a limit to everything. Otoh of course if you disable updates you may expect something funny to happen, and in that case it would be quite silly to blame the game publisher for something you did! A.