flightyjoe

yep, just glad to be on the 50 series cards despite the hate they get. To be honest i was happy as larry running my rtx 2070 for 5 years, could of stayed on that for longer but in my line of work met a PC builder who built me the rtx 5060 ti 5800x 32 ram for £850, so seemed crazy to pass that up in current climate. Should keep me goiong for next few years. I will also add that running MSFS 2020 for all these years at 30fps was great, of course 60fps is a big change, but up to that point 30fps was good enough to get me over 900 hours flying.... (ok a lot of that is alsoo in menus but you get my point)

Im still on 2020, ive said in my head that once i get to 1000 hours in steam (currently at time of typing 956 hours), i'll celebrate by purchasing 2024 in a steam sale. Just upgraded from 2070 5 3600 16 ram to 5060 ti 5800x 32 ram so actually playing 2020 at 60fps its like a new game anyway to me, currently just delved right back into it. Whatever happens moving forward, 2020 will always be special as that first moment i purchased it back when i had a 1060 6gb, i was just totally blown away, like nothing i'd ever seen before.... Just could not get over it, i used to fly those first 200 odd hours hionestly breathless at times.... It still hits, and certainly on my new PC its hitting again.... but nothing like that first time all those years ago.... going from Dovetails flightsim and FSX, to 2020 was insane.... and yes, for sure to my eyes over time they did mess with it too much, UK still having scorched grass covering most of it is a big bug bear of mine still to this day....

Devs will have access to these tols moving forward, basically they can finally make game slook ho they intended is the blurb, and having seen many examples i would have to say that isnt just marketing talk for once... The idea that this changed actual modelling or 'artistic vision' of the devs is for the birds. Whether i'd use it at this stage with the preformance drop i doubt it, but sure is interesting seeing all the games on YT. I'd like to see what it could do to FSX.

Not even why this DLSS 5 thing is dividing people, its tech and its absolutly insane, its leaped several generations in graphiocs without a dev doing a single thing... every game i've seen it on is improved in everyway graphically. As a tech head it is utterly absorbing to me, i dont understand why people hate anything AI so much, I willing to hear because i try to put myself in that mind set but just can't...

If your using a PC as a proper hobby all costs tend to be easy to wash away. I got into PC gaming because i was doing track days but had a kid and didn't have the time or see the point in having a 6k track car plus some road toys 3k each. Sold them and got into sim racing 10 years ago or so, started out with gtx 1060 i7 4970 (400 quid), no more track days just sim racing, got a TX thrustmaster wheel etc. Even ran MSFS on that, then 4 years ago got RTX 2070 ryzen 5 3600 (700 quid). Now after xmas i'm getting rtx 5070 ti with some powerful ryzen in it. Still use the first PC, i'm on it now, for modding and work stuff, will give this to my 15 year old for his room and i'll use the RTX 2070 one for me and game solely on the new one... Always being stingy, never caring about anyone else's, that thrustmaster TX wheel, i still have it after 10 years still use every day, not upgrading till it breaks and it won't break! Point being, just do you, it doesn't HAVE to have a 5090 in it to have fun, not at all. I also stopped drinking 12 years ago so i'd imagine what i saved alone on drinking has covered most of it.... also i'm a mortgage payer with kids, so comparing yourself to kids living at home buying 5k builds or retired boomers is silly.... I could go back to the 1060 1st build i have and game on it perfectly fine if i wanted, id still have fun...

I had this few weeks ago, for me it was the dlss hack from cyberpunk, restored to original and can use dx11 again no issues.... worth noting i was rounded on by the usuals here for saying i wanted to at least have a choice to run either dx12 or 11....

It does, and not everyone buying these games likes to sit for 6 hours on auto pilot pretending to be an airline pilot. Most just want good visuals and the fly around having fun.... 2020 does that. Its not hard to own 2024 you just need 60 quid and a steam account..... why do you act like only a select few can own it and your one of them?

Explain to us why you do then, as you are constantly trying to to convince everyone, or yourself, that 2024 is massively different to the your average casual flight simmer...it isn't. I got 2024 few weeks ago and went to what i did with 2020, flying over my house etc well known spots I've visited, and it got boring real quick because most look the same as 2020. I use flight sim about 2 hours over a week now, so really i was silly getting 2024. My mistake and I'll deal with it....

I've been around gaming a long time, first computer was ZX spectrum. I've seen the 'xbox/ps' fanboi rubbish, seen the 'amiga/atari' rubbish, seen loads of 'my racing sim is better than yours' etc etc etc.... but never, until now had i seen this utter drivel aimed at 2 games one of which is a bit newer but essentially the 2024 is the same in so many ways... both are by the same dev FFS.... its utter madness and so so so dull. Both sides seem to be totally blind to the fact they are slagging off the SAME devs each way..... anyway i largely ignore it now as i play neither that much anymore.

How defensive you are over dx12(beta) in MSFS...... like its your mum and not some non human thing in a computer game implemented as a beta, still, and badly IMO... forced to use it by total incompetence from ASOBO. I purchased a phenomenal game all those years ago, got 900 hours out of it, mostly of pure wonderment and joy.... and progressively its got worse, to the point now where I'm going to uninstall it.... I've had a blast... And maybe, i might grad 2024 in a sale.... maybe...

Sorry didn't realise it was your Mum. Look mate it would be nice to have the option and not having dx11 crash my game....too much to ask?

I have found it only runs in dx12, if not it crashes, i updated to latest driver and it worked for a day or two, then last night it crashed again. I am just glad i had 900 odd hours in 2020 prior to this mess and that i never went near 2024. I may just uninstall 2020 and be done with it.

But I'm guessing it hasn't got (BETA) written after it like 2020 in the options... I don't have 2024 but I'm hoping the got it working better. Main thing, i can now continue with 2020 when i get the itch to fly.

Update on this from me, updated to latest driver as of today and now can load up using DX11, all back to normal, happy again. And DX12 is word not allowed IMO, your experience may vary, but a no from me...

Just found this on the main forum, so basically i updated to 580.88, so i believe that is why i now crash if using dx11.... great. "FYI, If you want to use the latest Nvidia drivers starting from version 580.88, DX12 must be selected in MSFS 2020 settings. With drivers newer than 577.00, there will be CTDs if MSFS is running in DX11 - even without the Nvidia app. If you use driver version 577.00 or older and want to play DX11 in MSFS 2020, the Nvidia app should not be installed.

Well regardless, i always used DX11 now it crashes, use DX12 it loads but noticed it doesn't run aswell and uses much more RAM, quite how suddenly i can't use DX11 beggars belief. You yourself said you had to use dx12 to get it to not crash, but i don't want to run dx12. I've done 894 hours on steam and wanted to get to 1000 for my OCD and then I'd happily wave good bye to 2020..... I'll give it a week see if there is a fix and then uninstall and forget about it. I checked and i am still on windows 10, so something somewhere means that dx11 for me crashes 2020 now, its stupid, messed about changing drivers and its some mess up in latest windows update or MSFS itself.

So DX12 was neve an option before as i was on windows 10 still, seems i can now run win 11 so used dx12 and now can fly. Bit annoyed as seems I'm possibly on win 11 without knowing, i was going to wait it out..oh well.... at least I'm flying again so can stop re installing drivers. I assume im on windows 11 how do i find out?

This must be what i'm getting then since this morning, loading a flight and then crashes saying GPU over heating which it isn't obviously i'm thinking recent windows update now.

So just got a new LG 32 inch LED TV as my PC has been moved again to a smaller room at home. Set it up, looks ok, went to load up MSFS and it crashed. Saying GPU too hot etc, load of rubbish as its not. So anyway check over settings and in NV control panel the 'image scaling' i use (NIS) So i can run MSFS at false 4k res and DLSS wont stay on before i used to check GPU instead of display and it would grey out some settings and i'd get NIS overlay and image scaling options per game... So for some reason somehow MSFS is i assume picking up that its missing that so can't get into the game, i have changed screen size etc in options and deleted user file.... very strange, any idea why i can't use image scaling on this TV? is it a LG thing? I will when a get a chance try a different TV SEE IF IT COMES BACK.

The burnt landscape of the UK was the first thing that started to put me off 2020, even came on here and had the usual 'your making it up because you are a troll' type behaviour. I wasn't, its there, one really really hot summer and bing sent up the drones to take picture's.. great idea. It just feels so wrong to be flying over a golden UK at any time of year. Also when i got MSFS all those years ago, i was running a GTX 1060 6GB and i7 4090, in fact I'm writing this on that same computer as its my desktop one now... anyway i was running medium graphics and it was spell binding, then i had the RTX 2070 and could up the graphics and again was blown away. Now I'm on an RTX 4070 and i just can't get that same feeling back.... i wish i was starting out anew, i also am pretty sure that it went backwards over the years. This final update, i just don't think i can be arsed now. MSFS 2024 just isn't leaps and bounds better, but i might uninstall 2020 and maybe few months get 2024 and try to hopefully feel like its all new again... I am predominantly a sim racer and MSFS changed my gaming world, a truly mind blowing piece of software which maybe lost its way a bit...

I'm a flightsim casual, although i got addicted to MSFS 2020, done about 900 steam hours on it, had a wonderful time but as i play less and less i'm thinking of uninstalling it from steam, now with other games i do this a lot and just need to reinstall if i wanted to play again, question is with MSFS 2020 would the process mean installing ALL the updates all over again? I just want to free up some SSD space for a bit but don't want to have to download heaps of stuff all over... so is uninstalling effectively a bad idea if i wanted to use it again in say a month?

The guy just said he uses XP12 as well as MSFS 24 and he enjoys both, give him a break.

Yep UK, different loading screen, no market place now, so yea the 2024 effect meets 2020....

I had a small update and now in the world map the frames drop as you zoom in, which never happened before ever....