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29dec08: Fs9 Md-11 Release Update

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Captains-Just a quick note to give you some updated information on our release expectations for the PMDG MD-11 for FS9...As you all are well aware by now, PMDG does not publish release dates because our experience has been that they are virtually meaningless when it comes to proper software development practices.On 12DEC08 I published an update in which I told you that we were hoping to release before Christmas, but would certainly release before the end of 2008... I probably should have deleted that sentence, in retrospect.We have been struggling to find solutions for some problems that have created havoc with our attempts to get the MD-11 model properly imported to FS9. The fact is that FS9 is a very outdated platform, and it offers very severely limited capabilities when compared to FSX.Tonight we had a short discussion to review where we are, and to compare thoughts of key developers on the team with respect to our release expectations, and we have adjusted our timeline outward once again to include the time between 02JAN to 05JAN.While we have a releasable product on our hands right now- we feel that a few more days of testing and tweaking will make the difference between a very good release and an excellent release.Either way- we are essentially finished- we are just working out some last minute details to make the product meet your expectations.For those who have purchased the COMBO that includes the FSX and FS9 version: Keep an eye on your email. We will be sending download links to all of you before we release the product to the general public. You will get a few hours jump on everyone else. ;-)To all of you who have been waiting patiently (or impatiently!) for the PMDG MD-11 to appear in FS9, the wait is nearly over. We appreciate your patience- and we look forward to delivering an MD-11 simulation that exceeds your expectations!

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Hey there Captain Rsrandazzo and the PMDG team, it's no big deal on my side, besides the 12th DEC seemed like only a few days ago! I think time compression kicked in though as I have enjoyed the winter holiday :( When the work is all said done, I'm positive I'll have a smile from east to west, whilst flying the MD-11. I look forward to kicking off the new year of flightsimming sometime with the fresh and the new. Big thumbs up.

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The fact is that FS9 is a very outdated platform, and it offers very severely limited capabilities when compared to FSX.
I am surprised everyone didn't switch to FSX just because of the MD-11. It's worth it. Well, of course it's easy for me to say because I've been using FSX since the day it was released... Still, it's great you are going through so much trouble to give the FS9-people this great plane. I wonder though if it will be just as good (in all aspects) as the FS9 version... I really think people who stick with FS9 are missing out something special... It IS indeed a very outdated platform...Anyway, I remember reading somewhere the release of the FS9 version would also be the releasedate of the first patch for the FSX version. Did I read this right or not? Not that I am eagerly awaiting a patch, because right now I've found nothing wrong in my MD-11! But I'm just curious. :(

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I am surprised everyone didn't switch to FSX just because of the MD-11. It's worth it. Well, of course it's easy for me to say because I've been using FSX since the day it was released... Still, it's great you are going through so much trouble to give the FS9-people this great plane. I wonder though if it will be just as good (in all aspects) as the FS9 version... I really think people who stick with FS9 are missing out something special... It IS indeed a very outdated platform...Anyway, I remember reading somewhere the release of the FS9 version would also be the releasedate of the first patch for the FSX version. Did I read this right or not? Not that I am eagerly awaiting a patch, because right now I've found nothing wrong in my MD-11! But I'm just curious. :(
Mmmm.... there are things wrong with my MD-11, like the VC antialiasing text bug. i can't read anything unless i use a biiiiig zoom.To the team: We, FSX users can't get the patch sooner?Thanks a lot :)

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:( thank you PMDG for the news, so we can take the holidays without any anxiety and have not to scan the forum every 5 min till the 2 of genuarybye and have a good new year :(

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:( Thanks for the update Robert!As of 2nd of Jan, I will set my "check for new messages" at a 5sec interval :( :( B) Regards,Frank

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Thanks for the update. Please take as long as is necessary. No panic.

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Thank you for the update Robert. I will be patiently waitiing for this wonderful product..

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Dear PMDG teamWhat's about FSX softaware update and advanced tutorial. Please a short update news, too.Thanks and best regardsMarcel

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Captains-Just a quick note to give you some updated information on our release expectations for the PMDG MD-11 for FS9...As you all are well aware by now, PMDG does not publish release dates because our experience has been that they are virtually meaningless when it comes to proper software development practices.On 12DEC08 I published an update in which I told you that we were hoping to release before Christmas, but would certainly release before the end of 2008... I probably should have deleted that sentence, in retrospect.We have been struggling to find solutions for some problems that have created havoc with our attempts to get the MD-11 model properly imported to FS9. The fact is that FS9 is a very outdated platform, and it offers very severely limited capabilities when compared to FSX.Tonight we had a short discussion to review where we are, and to compare thoughts of key developers on the team with respect to our release expectations, and we have adjusted our timeline outward once again to include the time between 02JAN to 05JAN.While we have a releasable product on our hands right now- we feel that a few more days of testing and tweaking will make the difference between a very good release and an excellent release.Either way- we are essentially finished- we are just working out some last minute details to make the product meet your expectations.For those who have purchased the COMBO that includes the FSX and FS9 version: Keep an eye on your email. We will be sending download links to all of you before we release the product to the general public. You will get a few hours jump on everyone else. ;-)To all of you who have been waiting patiently (or impatiently!) for the PMDG MD-11 to appear in FS9, the wait is nearly over. We appreciate your patience- and we look forward to delivering an MD-11 simulation that exceeds your expectations!

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Dear PMDG TEAMMany thanks for your greatful and professional management to want to release a so exceptionnal addon as everytime . ( Different as others where we never go more ) . thanks for news.We can wait again ( even if with our passion we are like kids !!! so impatient but it is also funny and shows how we appreciate your products ) it will more pleasure when we will get it and we wish all the best for the fs9 version and next others ones . Happy new year coming wishing you a great succes in all your products . regardsPatrick

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PMDG: Thank you for the Update! And thank you for your hard work !Observation:I am a bit confused about the comments: "FS9 is out-dated" I don't understand since when, or where, or even how could it be out-dated.The Flight simming-world has two types of simmers: (1) The Enthusiasts, and (2) The Serious-Pro SimmersAs a Serious-Pro Simmer it's almost impossible for me to see FS9 as "outdated." Besides my own computer, I tried FS10 (with NO professional add-ons)-- in a US gaint electronics store, where they built a $6,000 computer with all the latest harwdware, updates, tweaks and technology...And as you've read on my otherr posts-- FS10 no where comes close to FS9 in performance ! Period !Like 99.9% of Serious-Pro Simmers, I have invested tons of dollars in profesional add-ons for FS9; making flying almot a climax on every flight, with breath-taking scencery and superperb-professional airliner add-ons. Programmable, almost true-to-life airliners such as, PSS, Wilco, Level D, and PMDG add-ons proof that FS9 is as real as it gets... yet! Sure, from "marketing" point-of-view, FS10 is the latest in flight simulation; but, from a serious-pro-simmer point-of-view, FS10 is simply USELESS-- or almost. This time Microsoft seemed to have tried very hard to make the Flight Simulation Community, very unhappy! What's there to, then? Nothing much but to wait and see what FS11 will bring. Has Microsoft learnt a lesson, we'll see... If not, "Those who do not learn by their previous mistakes are/will be condemned to repeat them !!!However, if Microsoft comes up with a useable-- and widely acceptable-- FS11, will FS10 be "outdated" or '"obsolete?" -- Absolutely !!! Unless Intel and AMD (and ATI and Nvidia) stop playing the marketing game of " every quarter we've come up with the latest and best technology" by increasing a notch, graduallly, on something they already knew 10 years ago !!!Thanks,John Gonzalez

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"FS9 is out-dated"To cut things short, technically, it means that the feature FS9 provides compared with FSX is out of date. For software developer, the FSX can offer them Bumpmaps, gauge backlighting 3DSound Cones and so on while FS9 not, they justified "out of date" by features not by user number.

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Thank you for the update, I can now stop looking at the forums everyday until January. With the MD-11 down I just gotta wait for the A380 and then its on to wait for FS11 since I'm bypassing FSX. BTW, does PMDG take debit cards or just credit?Alex

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Thanks Robert,I'm looking forward to the new MD-11 to add to my other PMDG Products. I would rather wait a little longer to have a product that works as close to the real one as possible than to get the product too quickly and not work correctly. I'm glad to hear that your team is working dilegently to work out all the problems. I hope it's frame rate friendly. Ken.

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I am so happy that PMDG and some of the other professional developers have not abandon us few poor FS9 users. I am not switching for so many reason to FSX (VISTA). During this financial crisis time in the world what sells rules (its call keeping a job) There is STILL a market for FS9 products regardless if it is outdated. Carl P

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Johnny. I couldn't have said it with any more enthusiasm. Like you. I have too much time and money invested in add-ons for FS9 to kick it to the curb for a sim that is a dog at best on my computer.

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To all of you who have been waiting patiently (or impatiently!) for the PMDG MD-11 to appear in FS9, the wait is nearly over.
I belong to the second category of waiters ;) Anyway, I appreciate your decision to postpone release as long as you can improve it. we don't buy a release date but a plane.Probably you missed some Christmas/New years orders. Your decision to release when fully ready is then the third proof I have of your honest professionnalism. (the two proofs i already have are my 747-400 and 737NG)Whatever is the current position of your MD-11 for FS9, it is already cleared to land on my HD ;DHappy new year to all

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Thank you for the update =) At the begning I was very impatient but now over waiting a long time i get more patient and thats good ... thank you anyway =)Happy new year :(

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CaptainsLike for many of you, FS9 is the platform of choice for me due to performance and add-ons installed but I guess some folks here are taking the "FS9 is outdated" statement a bit too personal.Let's face it - FS9 is outdated in terms of todays standards - the sim is now 5+ years old.I can only imagine the extra effort PMDG puts in to provide us with a worldclass add-on for a dual FSX/FS9 platform. I fly the MD11 now for 2+ months and I am still amazed of how far PMDG raised the bar with this bird. All that Capt. Rob is trying to tell us is that it is technically very challenging for the crew to provide the same level of realism in FS9 - they went the extra mile for us and we will get a fantastic add-on for FS9.In addition, the recent poll FSX vs. FS9 in the forum I'm sure was for a good reason - the result of the poll is clear and PMDG being a commercial company would be - sorry - drop dead stupid if they abandon FS9 support in the near future.This will not happen.I wanted to skip the FSX era completely but the MD11 changed that as I knew I could not sit out the FS9 release and instead of posting here about release date every second day I installed "the enemy" and gave it a try.My rig gives me 21000 in 3DMark06 plus my CPU is a QX9650 oc'd to 3.6 GHZ - still FSX was a big challenge.But the PMDG MD11 is very much optimized for performance offering a few nice options to tune FPS.In the meantime I have invested enough time and tweaked FSX to my liking - the 11 is now very well flyable, plus as a side effect I learned a lot about my system during the past 2 months and how to improve performance even further.More and more add-ons are being released - and let's face it - most of them look better in FSX than in FS9 due to the superior graphics engine (f.e. compare the FS Dreamteam Scenery in FSX vs. FS9...)The last frontier is the weather, Hifisim just raised the bar with ASA which has huge potential and after a patch or two this will be the breakthrough we were all hoping for.So in short - FSX deserves a chance - it's really all about the time you are willing to invest to bring it to life. The real issue is not the sim itself but our lack of user patience to tune it plus being too much in love with the FPS counter.Cheers to PMDG and all MD11 skippers, looking forward to try the bird in FS9.ThanksJoerg

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CaptainsLike for many of you, FS9 is the platform of choice for me due to performance and add-ons installed but I guess some folks here are taking the "FS9 is outdated" statement a bit too personal.Let's face it - FS9 is outdated in terms of todays standards - the sim is now 5+ years old.I can only imagine the extra effort PMDG puts in to provide us with a worldclass add-on for a dual FSX/FS9 platform. I fly the MD11 now for 2+ months and I am still amazed of how far PMDG raised the bar with this bird. All that Capt. Rob is trying to tell us is that it is technically very challenging for the crew to provide the same level of realism in FS9 - they went the extra mile for us and we will get a fantastic add-on for FS9.In addition, the recent poll FSX vs. FS9 in the forum I'm sure was for a good reason - the result of the poll is clear and PMDG being a commercial company would be - sorry - drop dead stupid if they abandon FS9 support in the near future.This will not happen.I wanted to skip the FSX era completely but the MD11 changed that as I knew I could not sit out the FS9 release and instead of posting here about release date every second day I installed "the enemy" and gave it a try.My rig gives me 21000 in 3DMark06 plus my CPU is a QX9650 oc'd to 3.6 GHZ - still FSX was a big challenge.But the PMDG MD11 is very much optimized for performance offering a few nice options to tune FPS.In the meantime I have invested enough time and tweaked FSX to my liking - the 11 is now very well flyable, plus as a side effect I learned a lot about my system during the past 2 months and how to improve performance even further.More and more add-ons are being released - and let's face it - most of them look better in FSX than in FS9 due to the superior graphics engine (f.e. compare the FS Dreamteam Scenery in FSX vs. FS9...)The last frontier is the weather, Hifisim just raised the bar with ASA which has huge potential and after a patch or two this will be the breakthrough we were all hoping for.So in short - FSX deserves a chance - it's really all about the time you are willing to invest to bring it to life. The real issue is not the sim itself but our lack of user patience to tune it plus being too much in love with the FPS counter.Cheers to PMDG and all MD11 skippers, looking forward to try the bird in FS9.ThanksJoerg
I have nothing ageist FSX, it is a valid point many simmers have spent hundreds of dollars in addons only to start over again, oh and you need a new computer too. That is a major leap for many, with that said, if I had the money to do so yeah I would do it, but with the major investment in hardware and to totally start over buying addons for an entirely different simulator. I am glad PMDG had the foresight and were willing to put the effort into catering to the FS9 captains and there are still many of us. I don't see jumping totally to FSX until computer hardware comes down in price, of corse by then then there will be a new sim that requires a NASA computer to run it, so it is a constant arms race. I will wiat till FS 12 to upgrade again.Michael P.

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The fact is that FS9 is a very outdated platform, and it offers very severely limited capabilities when compared to FSX.
Hi!... Well call it outdated but fs9 is giving better frame rates,and for me that means an overall better gaming experience.Fsx may look better but it sure doesn't perform better.I'm more interested in performance than looks.Thank you for developing both versions,can't wait to get my hands on your MD-11!David

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