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So I noticed a few days ago that Heli-Traffic 2009 had released an update that made it FS9 compatible. I immediately went for it and had a few problems with my initial install and could not get it up and running. I found the Heli-Traffic support forum and found others experiencing similar problems but also found a very responsive support team in the forums. After a couple of days of trying and a couple of beta builds they got everything up and running this morning and all I can say is TOO COOL!I just chased A Bell JetRanger down the NJ Turnpike at 100 MPH for like 20 miles :) What a great new level of realism within FS9 to see AI choppers in the air with you as well. The rotor animation in the air was awesome to watch as well, all in all very well done.I just thought I would pop in and give this a big thumbs up. Was it perfect, no, I had some real issues getting it up and running but the support was excellent, they resolved the issue and the end result was certainly worth the wait so when you take all those factors into account, I would recommend this for anyone who wants to see some choppers in their FS9 skies...Cheers,-Paul

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WOW - that IS good news!! Thanks for the heads up - :( I am sure many of us who were blown away by the demo video but were dissapointed the see it was only for FSX will want to revisit the site. http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=helitraffic
My Pleasure! I know I was extremely dissapointed when I first heard it was FSX only so this was a real pleasant surprise...After the support the Heli-Traffic team provided me getting through my initial issues I felt I owed it to them to try and spread the word. My next goal is to find some more choppers I can use as AI ;).Enjoy,-Paul

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Sweet! Looking at the forum, it seems a few user are having problems, but I'll keep an eye on it and make the purchase when all the bugs are ironed out. Thanks!

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Just a little bump for a few questions As I understand this programe uses installed helicopters as Ai Well I only have three helos installed , the two default ones and Jordan Moores 412 .Now as much as I love that heli , I really dont like the idea of 20 or 30 of them buzzing around destroying my FPS .So my questions are ... What are the options regarding AI helicopters ?What is the frame rate hit , if any ?I really like the idea of ai helcopter traffic , but when you consider what WOAI and others gives us for free , is it worth the

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It's a flight1 product that you can try for 30 days and get your money back if you dont like it. You wont be disappointed though this latest version is very good on frame rates as it only displays the models if they are within 10 miles of the user. The Heli AI has a quantity slider just like default AI do, so it is very scalable.

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You can use all of your helos or just one or download more and use those + our own etc. the option to use which is in HT 2009.I don't have any issues in FSX with HT 2009 and with me being a "helo freak " - I can watch them land and take off :( I have the default helos along with chinooks, Shawnees, Hughes_29C, SCA Bell 430- and if I don't think they look right at I don't use them - there are quite a few options in HT 2009 and I think it will be upgraded more.They do look a little "robotic" when landing but given FSX limitations I think its a great addon - for me and I hope others.I'm using it in FSX and FS9 - works OK in both. :(

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Wow, this sounds good. The lack of helicopters has always bothered me a bit. Always gave me the feeling I'm the only one around... Also, MyTraffic did have helicopters, but they acted exactly like aircraft. When they were in the air this wasn't a problem, but during landing, and takeoff, they'd behave like airplanes. That wasn't just silly, it was completely laughable.I'll give this a look, espacially because it's so darn cheap.

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Military AI Works (MAIW) has a few packages that has AI helicopters. They take off and land like real helicopters.North Carolina ANG (AH-64 Apache)Simmons Army Airfield (CH-47 Chinook and AH-64 Apache)RAF Reascue SeakingCarribean Defense Force Sikorsky S-76Now I don't know if Heli Traffic has these helicopters or not, but if it dosen't then you can add a few more copters to your AI traffic.

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Military AI Works (MAIW) has a few packages that has AI helicopters. They take off and land like real helicopters.North Carolina ANG (AH-64 Apache)Simmons Army Airfield (CH-47 Chinook and AH-64 Apache)RAF Reascue SeakingCarribean Defense Force Sikorsky S-76Now I don't know if Heli Traffic has these helicopters or not, but if it dosen't then you can add a few more copters to your AI traffic.
To say that the fine MAIW choppers (I have them all) take off and land like real helicopters is a bit misleading in my opinion. They do simulate the take off rather well but still land (with an almost immediate stop) like an airplane.The choppers in the Heli-Traffic package take off and land at Heli-pads ony (not runways) and hover upon take off and landing so the effect is much more pleasing to the eye. Not perfect mind you, but much more realistic in my opinion.I just got my copy last night - no issues at all installing it - and am tickled to death with it. :( :( :( Just my two cents worth.

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I've had the program for two weeks and am having a ball with it!No problems on the install.I've made many "flight plans" for my EMS helos.The only "problem" (acknowledged and to be fixed in next update) is thathelos with retractable gear leave the gear up on the ground. It's still a great add on!Joe

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I saw this yesterday and was interested as well. My big question with it is how much chopper traffic shows up by default? I see you can obviously build your own routes, but do lots of medium sized airports have traffic? Or do you have to set up everything yourself? Do many airports have helipads by default?The other question is of course performance, but as was said, it appears to be highly configurable. I might just pick it up anyway. I'd love to add some chopper traffic to the Niagara Falls area at a minimum.

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Like others, I'm waitting for the installation bugs to be worked out. What is the version number that you just installed so that I might wait until the NEXT version comes out. Thnaks, jerrycwo4

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I saw this yesterday and was interested as well. My big question with it is how much chopper traffic shows up by default? I see you can obviously build your own routes, but do lots of medium sized airports have traffic? Or do you have to set up everything yourself? Do many airports have helipads by default?The other question is of course performance, but as was said, it appears to be highly configurable. I might just pick it up anyway. I'd love to add some chopper traffic to the Niagara Falls area at a minimum.
As it only uses Helipads (not runways) you can easily add helipads to any airport that does not currently have them.There is an independent "slider" (just as in the sim) which controls how much Heli traffic you will see and you can easily create your own schedules too.I have both FSX and FS2004 on my computer (the Heli program works in both) but so far I have only tested it in FS2004 - having a ball !! Just toooooo cool.Remember they (Flight1) have a money back gaurantee so you have nothing to loose by trying it.

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Like others, I'm waitting for the installation bugs to be worked out. What is the version number that you just installed so that I might wait until the NEXT version comes out. Thnaks, jerrycwo4
The version I downloaded and installed last night was 1.01.Absolutly NO install issues for me. Installed it to both FS2004 and FSX.

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Just bought this. Initially the program would not get past the FS9 splash screen, but I installed the beta patch from their forums, and now everything works great. There's nice random traffic by default which is nice. I have to set up some custom flights. It seems kind of hit or miss as to which airports have helipads, but there's nice general traffic overall.

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One question: Anybody know what are good, freeware AI passenger helicopters? I'm not really interested in military helicopters.Also, I was wondering if it's possible to configure the program so, that only specific helicopters fly a certain route? For example, if I have helicopters from the Israeli defence force, that they don't start flying around in Holland.

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One question: Anybody know what are good, freeware AI passenger helicopters? I'm not really interested in military helicopters.Also, I was wondering if it's possible to configure the program so, that only specific helicopters fly a certain route? For example, if I have helicopters from the Israeli defence force, that they don't start flying around in Holland.
Can't think of any offhand but try HoverControl - that site is dedicated to all things Chopper related:http://hovercontrol.com/Also the program comes with very complete doumentation (HeliTraffic2009.pdf) - It takes a bit of reading and experimenting to set up your own flight plans but once you get the hang of it they work like a charm.

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I had the idea last night to start browsing through the old fs98 and newer freeware helicopters. If they work in FS9, they should make great AI choppers. The great freeware models out now seemed a little too detailed for AI use, so these older models with less bells and whistles should be better performance wise.

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That's very true, but I doubt if these ancient models will work in FS9. If you do manage to get them working, could you please tell us which models you used, and what you did?

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I've got the Traffic 2005 from Just Flight in FS9, which includes helicopters. They are mostly unobtrusive and are a nice addition. They have their own little AFCADs at major airports (like Heathrow near T4), but the downside is that they take off and land like "real" aircraft. I tend not to pay them much attention as I am more into the heavies, but can anyone who has tried it compare it to this HeliTraffic.On a mildly related note, the default FSX choppers are not quite as vicious and vindictive as those in FS9, but that is just my view after some brief experiences. It really brings me back to reality in a depressing way, as I land a 747 at Kai Tak and then get thrown about in some heli hopping over to CLK. I am probably wrong and would appreciate the wisdom of those who know better.

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I've got the Traffic 2005 from Just Flight in FS9, which includes helicopters. They are mostly unobtrusive and are a nice addition. They have their own little AFCADs at major airports (like Heathrow near T4), but the downside is that they take off and land like "real" aircraft. I tend not to pay them much attention as I am more into the heavies, but can anyone who has tried it compare it to this HeliTraffic.On a mildly related note, the default FSX choppers are not quite as vicious and vindictive as those in FS9, but that is just my view after some brief experiences. It really brings me back to reality in a depressing way, as I land a 747 at Kai Tak and then get thrown about in some heli hopping over to CLK. I am probably wrong and would appreciate the wisdom of those who know better.
Heli Traffic 2009 is a totally NEW approach to using Choppers in FS2004 and FSX.All you need to do is watch the demo video at the Flight1 site to see what I mean.http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=helitraffic

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Heli Traffic 2009 is a totally NEW approach to using Choppers in FS2004 and FSX.All you need to do is watch the demo video at the Flight1 site to see what I mean.http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=helitraffic
Thanks for the link, I really do see what you mean. Although they seem a bit robotronic I am jealous of how they can guide them as if on rails :( make me look like a suicidal drunk

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That's very true, but I doubt if these ancient models will work in FS9. If you do manage to get them working, could you please tell us which models you used, and what you did?
Yes, you're right. Most of these wouldn't work. Some of them loaded but gave a message about "potential problems". Same with many 2000 models. I honestly can't remember the details in the changes of the aircraft formats from version to version. I'll keep looking and let everyone know if I find any good AI models. I'll keep at it and if I find anything I will post here. I'm going to start going through the 2002 models and see if there are any suitable ones.

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"I have both FSX and FS2004 on my computer "Opa, I do NOT own a copy of FSX. As such I still do not know the MAIN reason that a person would put up with what I hear is such bad performance of it even with today's 4.0 plus GHz CPU and high tech video cards. I recenty heard that one of the atvantages of FSX over FS2004 was that the forground part of the scenery (land) is much sharper and / or clearer. Like most people I'm fairly happy with how my FS2004 looks, BUT I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO MAKE IT BETTER. In your opinion what are the best features that FSX has over FS2004 and am I making a MISTAKE by not even trying FSX as I have a new very powerful rig? jerrycwo4

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