They actually are using AI Aardvark and Fruit Stand models, that were reworked by Flight One to be fully FSX and DX10 compliant. See the headlines here http://www.ai-aardvark.com/and here http://www.the-fruit-stand.com/So everything should be top notch. And yes, those AI guys have a wacky sense of humor.

Unfortunately not all of them. there are some ATROCIOUS models and repaints mixed in with the good stuff. I.e. the Canadairs, and some smaller a/c. With horribly coarse textures to boot. I guess they hoped users would focus on the AIA and TFS stuff and overlook the rest. What a shame.

Does it use FSX flightplans (BGLs) as apposed to the FS9 style BGLs carried over from FS9 days?And since it was brought up above, does it include Military flights?

no military, noUT2 uses FPs and routes, two different things. YOu can actually route planes the way you want. BUT: The flightplans are not compatible, and there doesn't seem to be a way to input TTools-style FPs. The implementation is extremely cumbersome. You have to enter every leg with over 30 mouse-clicks (I counted) in a tedious step by step procedure. I haven't found a way to take my TTools - FP files (aircraft+airports+flightplans.txt) and convert them.If they don't offer such an import tool soon, this will be another short-lived AI solution that will not be adopted by the community in sufficient numbers to make it a standard. But I guess they rather sell their own FP updates or something.

My only complaint about UT2 is I never get off the ground :( I'm to busy traveling gate to gate exploring all the realistic AI traffic that's now there!!! $ for $ this is one of the best purchases I've made for FSX[i'm a Happy Camper]

abulaafia,Why do you not simply point out any texture errors in the UT2 support forum where the developers are? Maybe make feature requests there if there is something you are not happy with... maybe we will ablige!Your choice of words and general tone in both forums make it appear you have some agenda, which I do not fully understand.Note that there are situations where textures can appear good on one system, and not right on another.

I know I am well in the minority but I bought it around 5 pm tonight. Installed and ran and got a Could not load "system.core" error.Tried to go on the forum (though on the flight one forums no name or password I"ve used in the past worked). Spent almost 2 hours just trying to get on the support forum-finally got in by setting a new account with the same name and password I've used before-go figure. Then read the faq that if you don't have Microsoft net 3.5 you will have problems. Downloaded net 3.5 installations taking 30 minutes each with a crash on each before completion. Rebooted-the chkdisk thing with a 30 minutes wait-tried again and got net again. Ran it and got all the way to the end-where it seemed to not complete though the complete bar showed 100 %-then got the same system.core error when trying to run it. Done for the night for now.I am for sure this is not flight one's fault or ultimate traffic 2 which looks great-but didn't turn into my idea of a fun night.-which seems to be pretty much anything having to do with windows computers at least in my world for the last 2 years. Mac's are looking better all the time...

That is not a fair asumption. I have read alot of threads of problems you have been having and correct me if I am wrong but from what I understand your copy of Vista you are running is wacked out. If I were you I would go with XP x64 until the next OS is ready and debugged. The time you have spent trying to solve issues would have killed a lesser man so my hat is off to you for your persurverance but I think you need to ditch that OS you are using or at least get a fresh copy. That being said... UT2 forum is littered with install issues which I am one that had issues as well. For once in my life I was glad that I did not heed Nicks advice and RE-Install FSX :( . All I needed was a simple small download/install of simconnect that they now have made a sticky on the forum and all is well. Yes it took 2 days to fix the problem from my first install but I would still be installing/tweeking/defragging ect if I did the fresh install of FSX. I feel that the installer they have should include the more common fixes they are seeing. It kind of made me mad when they say its you FSX install that is bad without quantifying a way to validate that short of UT not being able to install properly. Just my 2 cents worth. I do however now like the product.

JWenham,One problem is that when the product is released, that is when it goes out on a wide audience... hundreds of different systems all at once.We had one of our larger beta groups use UT2. But then you encounter computers that are missing a Windoes service pack, and whose Side by Side (WinSxs) configurations are not 100% correct. And all this does not appear until wider distribution. And of course in our "little" industry we do not have the luxury of releasing titles to millions of beta testers like Microsoft does on their products. If we did, our final release would be almost perfect! :( So now with the FAQ's etc posted, we have it almost all covered now for the minority that do have a problem running UT2. We will make adjustments to make it even more seamless to the end user on the next full build.Glad you are enjoying UT2! It will hopefully only get better as we look at new features to apply.

That is not a fair asumption. I have read alot of threads of problems you have been having and correct me if I am wrong but from what I understand your copy of Vista you are running is wacked out. If I were you I would go with XP x64 until the next OS is ready and debugged. The time you have spent trying to solve issues would have killed a lesser man so my hat is off to you for your persurverance but I think you need to ditch that OS you are using or at least get a fresh copy. That being said... UT2 forum is littered with install issues which I am one that had issues as well. For once in my life I was glad that I did not heed Nicks advice and RE-Install FSX :( . All I needed was a simple small download/install of simconnect that they now have made a sticky on the forum and all is well. Yes it took 2 days to fix the problem from my first install but I would still be installing/tweeking/defragging ect if I did the fresh install of FSX. I feel that the installer they have should include the more common fixes they are seeing. It kind of made me mad when they say its you FSX install that is bad without quantifying a way to validate that short of UT not being able to install properly. Just my 2 cents worth. I do however now like the product.

I didn't make any assumption-I just reported how my evening was going.

That is not a fair asumption. I have read alot of threads of problems you have been having and correct me if I am wrong but from what I understand your copy of Vista you are running is wacked out. If I were you I would go with XP x64 until the next OS is ready and debugged. The time you have spent trying to solve issues would have killed a lesser man so my hat is off to you for your persurverance but I think you need to ditch that OS you are using or at least get a fresh copy. That being said... UT2 forum is littered with install issues which I am one that had issues as well. For once in my life I was glad that I did not heed Nicks advice and RE-Install FSX :( . All I needed was a simple small download/install of simconnect that they now have made a sticky on the forum and all is well. Yes it took 2 days to fix the problem from my first install but I would still be installing/tweeking/defragging ect if I did the fresh install of FSX. I feel that the installer they have should include the more common fixes they are seeing. It kind of made me mad when they say its you FSX install that is bad without quantifying a way to validate that short of UT not being able to install properly. Just my 2 cents worth. I do however now like the product.

Hey jwenhamGeofa was simply letting everyone know he was not having fun with his system. Hes aware of his Vista problems and is planning on getting a new disk from MS that will fix it. Right now he cant even get Vista SP1 installed which is what fixes a great deal of the Vista perf issues and other annoying problems but he was not coming down on UT2 about that.. :(

Hey jwenhamGeofa was simply letting everyone know he was not having fun with his system. Hes aware of his Vista problems and is planning on getting a new disk from MS that will fix it. Right now he cant even get Vista SP1 installed which is what fixes a great deal of the Vista perf issues and other annoying problems but he was not coming down on UT2 about that.. :(

Actually Nick-I am gonna try installing my Vista 64 disk and see if that works...though it will render my elite 2000 avionics panel useless....I just imaged everything so the worst that happens is I can put the whole mess back on :(

Actually Nick-I am gonna try installing my Vista 64 disk and see if that works...though it will render my elite 2000 avionics panel useless....I just imaged everything so the worst that happens is I can put the whole mess back on :(

Yaaaa!Those reinstalls suck but in your case I think it will bring on a much better system for FSXBummer about the avionics panel.. no workarounds available?

Actually Nick-I am gonna try installing my Vista 64 disk and see if that works...though it will render my elite 2000 avionics panel useless....I just imaged everything so the worst that happens is I can put the whole mess back on :(

I haven't followed your saga with Vista but FWIW let me give you my 2 cents worth of experience. I've probably built 20 or so computers in the last few years and have only had windows installation issues twice. Both times I went on long wild goose chases blaming MS and the world, along with crappy addons, bad drivers, and well you get the picture. To make a long story short both issues were my own fault. One was fixed by raising memory voltage and the other by proper (as in what works) memory timings. Both of those computers flat out refused to install windows properly. When I finally got widows installed they both had problems with some games and/or flying FSX.Before you even think about loading windows, whatever flavor, do yourself a favor and be sure that memtest is running clean. I usually run it overnight for at least 10 hours. Had I done this with both of those computers I could have saved myself a lot of trouble and frustation. I always run memtest for at least 2 hours when I build a computer and both of those computers passed no problem. It was only after running overnight that I saw memory errors the following morining. I was under the mistaken assumption that memtest ran clean. After correcting the problem I reloaded windows on them and then double checked using prime and/or orthos that they were actually fault free. If your absolutely sure that memtest is running clean on your computer than my hat is off to you for perservering and good luck!

I haven't followed your saga with Vista but FWIW let me give you my 2 cents worth of experience. I've probably built 20 or so computers in the last few years and have only had windows installation issues twice. Both times I went on long wild goose chases blaming MS and the world, along with crappy addons, bad drivers, and well you get the picture. To make a long story short both issues were my own fault. One was fixed by raising memory voltage and the other by proper (as in what works) memory timings. Both of those computers flat out refused to install windows properly. When I finally got widows installed they both had problems with some games and/or flying FSX.Before you even think about loading windows, whatever flavor, do yourself a favor and be sure that memtest is running clean. I usually run it overnight for at least 10 hours. Had I done this with both of those computers I could have saved myself a lot of trouble and frustation. I always run memtest for at least 2 hours when I build a computer and both of those computers passed no problem. It was only after running overnight that I saw memory errors the following morining. I was under the mistaken assumption that memtest ran clean. After correcting the problem I reloaded windows on them and then double checked using prime and/or orthos that they were actually fault free. If your absolutely sure that memtest is running clean on your computer than my hat is off to you for perservering and good luck!

Yep-I've done memtest-also have talked to MS techs. I think this problem (windows not updating) is somewhat widespread. Nick, I don't know why but elite says they just are not going to do the driver thing for 64 bit.

Hey jwenhamGeofa was simply letting everyone know he was not having fun with his system. Hes aware of his Vista problems and is planning on getting a new disk from MS that will fix it. Right now he cant even get Vista SP1 installed which is what fixes a great deal of the Vista perf issues and other annoying problems but he was not coming down on UT2 about that.. :(

I know, I didnt really mean any personal attacks by my statement just more or less wondering why he has not switched out his OS yet with all the problems he is having, but I see he is finally going to do it and hopfully he can start having fun again at this hobby.Geofa, I didnt mean any harm in my statement, I was just talking out of my arse. :( Nick, I thought you were too busy for this forum stuff, please go and finish Europe for cryin out load and dont come out of your room till its done! :( :(BTW, I just came home from an airshow my son and I went to and I want a real plane now more than ever!

I know, I didnt really mean any personal attacks by my statement just more or less wondering why he has not switched out his OS yet with all the problems he is having, but I see he is finally going to do it and hopfully he can start having fun again at this hobby.Geofa, I didnt mean any harm in my statement, I was just talking out of my arse. :( Nick, I thought you were too busy for this forum stuff, please go and finish Europe for cryin out load and dont come out of your room till its done! :( :(BTW, I just came home from an airshow my son and I went to and I want a real plane now more than ever!

No harm at all. The truth of the matter is the reason I haven't moved to another os is I don't have many problems-except when it raises its ugly head about once every 8 months. Since I only use this computer to sim-and it takes me a long week to reinstall everything for fsx alone-as long as fsx/xplane run I don't feel the urge to break everything and lose much again and again. Ultimate traffic is the first problem other than the 3 fsx activation issues I have run into that is a problem (and I seem to have stumbled onto a quick fix for the fsx activation problem). UT may push to me to the edge, but like nasty jobs like taxes, and taking out the garbage I will put it off as long as I can as long as I can get out of it what I need.

IIUC the 64 bit driver problem is due to MS requiring 64 bit drivers to go though WHQL testing and signing before they will install. That costs $$. The reason for WHQL I think is advertised as "improved user experience" but in reality is mandated by movie studios, so a driver can't get into the unencrypted data stream for media.scott s..

Nick, I thought you were too busy for this forum stuff, please go and finish Europe for cryin out load and dont come out of your room till its done!

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