Oh, and a question about the Mustang - I'm guessing it doesn't have an FMS, it just uses the GPS?Perhaps better to wait for the Eaglesoft Citation for something more in depth?

The F1 Mustang is an excellent rendition of the real G1000 equipped aircraft! With Navigraph updates and realistic WAAS operation it's difficult to see where anyone could go wrong.The Mustang is not quite a VLJ but does sort of fit that category.The Eaglesoft Citation X Extreme 2.0 is FMC equipped and fills the Medium Jet category very well.With Navigraph updates she does what she's built to do. Different categories for different purposes. :( It's hard for us to see how an RXP Gauge fits in the category of "Best Payware Aircraft"?? :(

"It's hard for us to see how an RXP Gauge fits in the category of "Best Payware Aircraft"?? :( "I guess you have a point. I didn't mean to offend anybody, but I was actually considering the Mustang when I bought that guage and though it is not an aircraft it enhances enjoyment of multiple aircraft. If I did not already own the Eaglesoft CJ1 I probably would have bought the Mustang. The rendition of the Mustang is top notch, but there just weren't enough differences from the actual airplane called the CJ1 to put it over the top. Yes I know the rendition from Eaglesoft is dated by comparison, but at the end of the day the CJ1 can do just about any virtual mission the Mustang can.I have seen several threads where someone is looking for a payware plane to invest in and something like Track IR which is an enjoyment multiplier for numerous aircraft is suggested instead.However, for the sake of peace I will retract my previous reccomendation and say IMO the combination of the RealAir Duke integrated by its dev with the Reality XP 430 GPS is what I consider the finest payware aircraft in my hangar.Donald

The F1 Mustang is an excellent rendition of the real G1000 equipped aircraft! With Navigraph updates and realistic WAAS operation it's difficult to see where anyone could go wrong.The Mustang is not quite a VLJ but does sort of fit that category.The Eaglesoft Citation X Extreme 2.0 is FMC equipped and fills the Medium Jet category very well.With Navigraph updates she does what she's built to do. Different categories for different purposes. :( It's hard for us to see how an RXP Gauge fits in the category of "Best Payware Aircraft"?? :(

Is this Eaglesoft Citation X Extreme 2.0 the rewrite we were looking for FSX? Always liked the original.jja

The F1 Mustang is an excellent rendition of the real G1000 equipped aircraft! With Navigraph updates and realistic WAAS operation it's difficult to see where anyone could go wrong.The Mustang is not quite a VLJ but does sort of fit that category.The Eaglesoft Citation X Extreme 2.0 is FMC equipped and fills the Medium Jet category very well.With Navigraph updates she does what she's built to do. Different categories for different purposes. :( It's hard for us to see how an RXP Gauge fits in the category of "Best Payware Aircraft"?? B)

Is this Eaglesoft Citation X Extreme 2.0 the rewrite we were looking for FSX? Always liked the original.jja

Is this Eaglesoft Citation X Extreme 2.0 the rewrite we were looking for FSX? Always liked the original.jja

If by rewrite you mean a complete top to bottom rebuild for FSX/SP2/DX10 Preview then the answer is yes! :(

"It's hard for us to see how an RXP Gauge fits in the category of "Best Payware Aircraft"?? :( "I guess you have a point. I didn't mean to offend anybody, but I was actually considering the Mustang when I bought that guage and though it is not an aircraft it enhances enjoyment of multiple aircraft. If I did not already own the Eaglesoft CJ1 I probably would have bought the Mustang. The rendition of the Mustang is top notch, but there just weren't enough differences from the actual airplane called the CJ1 to put it over the top. Yes I know the rendition from Eaglesoft is dated by comparison, but at the end of the day the CJ1 can do just about any virtual mission the Mustang can.I have seen several threads where someone is looking for a payware plane to invest in and something like Track IR which is an enjoyment multiplier for numerous aircraft is suggested instead.However, for the sake of peace I will retract my previous reccomendation and say IMO the combination of the RealAir Duke integrated by its dev with the Reality XP 430 GPS is what I consider the finest payware aircraft in my hangar.Donald

Don, there is no offense intended. Most all of us acknowledge that users often integrate those gauges into projects that will accept them.Just seemed off topic that's all.. :(

I quickly got tired of the simplicity of the default aircraft after I got the hang of FSX. I then bought a few panels from Friendly Panels to get more information in the glass of the 737 and the CRJ and the L45. But then I found the wonderful world of payware aircraft with fully simulated air,hydrolics, power, and of course FMS.I only fly payware now, except for the occasional LearJet flight.My favorite is the Level D 767-300 ER, followed very very very closely to the PMDG 747-400x, follwed by the flight 1 Super 80 Pro.All these planes have very good VCs, and are fully simulated, from Flight Management, IRS, fuel systems, bleed air, pressure and climate control, hydrolics, VNav, LNav, SIDs, STARs, non-pres. approach, autoland. Once you start flying these planes, you will find the default and Project OpenSky planes to be too basic. The PMDG 747 is extremly detailed, and the more I fly it the more I love it. Such a wonderful challenge.And I cannot wait for the PMDG 737 NGX.Scott Kalin

My favorite is the Level D 767-300 ER, followed very very very closely to the PMDG 747-400x, follwed by the flight 1 Super 80 Pro.And I cannot wait for the PMDG 737 NGX.Scott Kalin

I already have all 3, and I too await the 737 with great anticipation. Oh dear, I might be an addict :(Can anyone tell me if the MD-11 offers anything different to the 747? I'm afraid they might be a bit too similar (both big fms driven heavies).

I already have all 3, and I too await the 737 with great anticipation. Oh dear, I might be an addict :(Can anyone tell me if the MD-11 offers anything different to the 747? I'm afraid they might be a bit too similar (both big fms driven heavies).

Yes, it is awesome and much better on fps than the 747-400. You'll love it.

I already have all 3, and I too await the 737 with great anticipation. Oh dear, I might be an addict :( Can anyone tell me if the MD-11 offers anything different to the 747? I'm afraid they might be a bit too similar (both big fms driven heavies).

I do not yet have the MD-11. It costs so much money so I will have to wait a little longer, but I think it would be fantastic to try to fly a huge heavy like that with only three engines. "A completley different kind of flying...all together"

The Mustang is a transitional jet with single pilot operations. Speed is a relative thing, the faster you go, the more you want to go faster. The Mustang is not technically a VLJ, but serves the audience well and seems to be one of the very few smaller jets that made it to market and delivered all that it promised and on time. Our Mustang jet was built in official partnership with Cessna and is very feature rich. Is it for everyone? Maybe not, but it sure is a well rounded product. Also, our G1000 serves up current Navigraph data, (by subscription) WAAS approaches that do indeed perform vertical functions and we periodically offer new WAAS / and non Navigraph specific database information at no cost. (that might have to change in the future) So our G1000 can remain almost 100% current if you so choose.Jim Rhoads

"and we periodically offer new WAAS / and non Navigraph specific database information at no cost. (that might have to change in the future)"Jim,What type of WAAS / non Navigraph database information is this that may be fee based in the future?

What type of WAAS / non Navigraph database information is this that may be fee based in the future?

The WAAS approaches are not in the Navigraph data, they are a separate download (currently free) from the Mustang forum.

Tom,Thank you for the reply.I guess I have a misunderstanding about WAAS approaches and the database.You said:The WAAS approaches are not in the Navigraph data, they are a separate download (currently free) from the Mustang forum.That is what I am wondering about. How are WAAS approaches different?And do they have published approach plates?*******************************************I thought RNAV/GPS/WAAS approach plates/procedures (FAA-USA) were the same?For example, KLAS RNAV (GPS) RWY 1R.This is currently used in the Level-D and I assume, the Mustang.Is this a WAAS approach (see screenshot)?It has waypoints, altitudes and a missed approach.RNAV(GPS), ILS etc. type approaches are already in Navigraph (standard) database for other aircraft and is already included in the Navigraph subscription cost. I do not know if all USA airports are included and that may be a difference.

I also miss my old classic GMAX 747-200 for FS9 - is there anything similar for FSX?

Speaking about classic liners, there is Boeing 727 from Captain Sim and Boeing 377 Stratocruiser from A2A (witch Accusim expansion pack that introduces realistic engine management).

On a NOS chart I believe it will state if a WAAS approach is useable via the approach chart.

vonmar:That KLAS approach is a WAAS approach...look at the RNAV (GPS) RWY 1R plate's upper left corner; you'll see the WAAS designation in the box just under the city, state label.WAAS is a LPV approach, which is "Localizer Performance with Vertical Guidance "; not all RNAV approaches are WAAS/LPV-enabled

Ed and Rudi,You guys are correct.In this example, KLAS RNAV(GPS) RWY 1R screenshot, I was looking in the lower left corner below the word CATEGORY.LPV/LNAV/VNAV.I was pointing out that RNAV(GPS)/WAAS, ILS etc. type approaches are already in Navigraph (standard) database for other aircraft. And the USA-FAA approach charts already contain the waypoints, altitudes etc. for the WAAS approaches.And the RNAV/WAAS approach data, as in this example, is already included in the Navigraph subscription cost.So, in a previous post, that is why I was asking about the Citations' WAAS approaches being a "separate download".**** From previous posts ***Jim had mentioned:"and we periodically offer new WAAS / and non Navigraph specific database information at no cost. (that might have to change in the future)"so I asked Jim:What type of WAAS / non Navigraph database information is this that may be fee based in the future? And Tom replied:The WAAS approaches are not in the Navigraph data, they are a separate download (currently free) from the Mustang forum.*****Like this KLAS WAAS approach is already in Level-D and citation ... from Navigraph.So I was trying to figure out what was in the separate downlod from Citation all about?