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User BANNED by AVSIM for saying what so many are thinking

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All users, please be aware,Some of you will have seen a user by the name of "Longyear", who I will state is a personal friend of mine.Longyear has engaged in many discussions and helped other users around here.However, he recently challenged Ron Hamilton's over-running of these forums and has just discovered that he has been BANNED from these forums.Be under no illusion that the message from AVSIM is clear; mess with Ron Hamilton and Eaglesoft and you will be banned.Let's see if this post lasts 5 minutes without further pro-Eaglesoft CENSORSHIP by AVSIM.Once a fine organisation, AVSIM has been sold out.

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Now it's time for all users to be aware of the actual facts, instead of your continued lies.Longyear, Astradan, Power2thePeople, and Nordicskies are all the same person. You are not a "personal friend" of longyear, you ARE longyear, and you ARE a discpicible liar. Your accounts (all of them now) have been banned because you were caught actively using multiple accounts. Do you not realize that AVSIM moderators have access to all of the tools we need to uncover these things? Are you really ignorant enough to think we wouldn't discover who you really are. You are a liar, you have been caught, and you are no longer welcome here at AVSIM under any name.

Jeremy "rightseater" Fletcher

Good grief. Do people really take this flight-simming hobby so seriously that they have to invent multiple identities, just to defend themselves (I mean, each other :( ) in an argument?!?Baffling...and ultimately pretty sad.Ian

Good grief. Do people really take this flight-simming hobby so seriously that they have to invent multiple identities, just to defend themselves (I mean, each other :( ) in an argument?!?Baffling...and ultimately pretty sad.Ian
Reminds me of that little poem from the movie "What About Bob?"Roses are redViolets are blueI'm schizophrenicAnd so am I :( CheersBob ScottColonel, USAF (ret)ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VColorado Springs, CO

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Good grief. Do people really take this flight-simming hobby so seriously that they have to invent multiple identities, just to defend themselves (I mean, each other :( ) in an argument?!?Baffling...and ultimately pretty sad.Ian
It is very sad, baffling and is a part of the flight sim world that becomes apparent when one goes from being a user to a moderator.Just like the mods, be suspicious when members enter a thread with what looks like an agenda, or with unusual malice or rudeness-that is usually the first sign something isn't right. We have experienced this lately in some of the tweak threads, and pretty much with every release of a new flight sim product. As flight sim enthusiasts-when you sense something is wrong in a thread-please use the alert button. We can't be all places at all times.... as far as "messing with Eaglesoft getting one banned" and "censorship" a simple search of threads will show the mods have stepped in when we felt things were off base-on both sides. We really try our best to keep things balanced and unbaised here. However, I apologize to the Eaglesoft guys for the game this person was doing to discredit their products on our forum and wish we had caught this much sooner.I don't think any flight sim add on producer deserves that.Thanks Jeremy for his incredible sleuthing talents and taking care of this while I was with my dog at agility training!

Geofa

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We had the same "problem" 4-5 years ago on a Ford Mustang forum in the Montreal area, an obviously mentally ill individual created 4 aliases and occasionally was reprimanding it's own self :( He was also pretending to own a very rare 2004 Cobra "Limited Shelby Edition" he owned the Cobra, but the SE version never existed but in is mind...Even after being shown the forum virtual door he kept proclaiming his innocence and was hinting conspiracy and suing threats :( Alain from Montreal

Thanks Jeremy for his incredible sleuthing talents and taking care of this while I was with my dog at agility training!
I sure hope that by "dog" you mean Baron, and by "agility training" you mean 8,000 feet.

Jeremy "rightseater" Fletcher

I sure hope that by "dog" you mean Baron, and by "agility training" you mean 8,000 feet.
That will be tomorrow and Monday....today was a dog... :(

Geofa

WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE-the best Flight Sim!

Way to go Jeremy! If everyone who challenged Ron had in fact been banned from this forum, membership would be now down to five people, three moderators, Ron and Ed. No, that would be just four people, as I believe Ed and Ron are also the same person using multiple accounts. "Ed" is Ron's alter ego saying what Ron would really like to say, "Ron" is the contingency account in the event "Ed" (the real uncensored Ron) gets banned. I hope this is investigated with the same diligence that was applied to our dear departed friend(s) Longyear et. al.Big%20Grin.gifRoy Holley

Roy Holley

Do people really take this flight-simming hobby so seriously that they have to invent multiple identities
You have no idea ;)
You have no idea ;)
Uh...*runsawaytocreateaanalternativeidentity* :( :(

I admit it, I have been banned from this forum, for reason that should have me banned. I am aware that AVSIM can tell if I made a new account and I have since cleaned up my act, so second chances are allowed at AVSIM right? Jordan Collins

I admit it, I have been banned from this forum, for reason that should have me banned. I am aware that AVSIM can tell if I made a new account and I have since cleaned up my act, so second chances are allowed at AVSIM right? Jordan Collins
Yes, in fact we are quite generous in that regard, despite what some would have you believe. I'm well aware that you are the former "realatp", however it would be more courteous of you to send us an e-mail and discuss the matter before just creating a new account.

Jeremy "rightseater" Fletcher

Way to go Jeremy! If everyone who challenged Ron had in fact been banned from this forum, membership would be now down to five people, three moderators, Ron and Ed. No, that would be just four people, as I believe Ed and Ron are also the same person using multiple accounts. "Ed" is Ron's alter ego saying what Ron would really like to say, "Ron" is the contingency account in the event "Ed" (the real uncensored Ron) gets banned. I hope this is investigated with the same diligence that was applied to our dear departed friend(s) Longyear et. al.Big%20Grin.gifRoy Holley
That one is hilarious Roy. :( Disclaimer: Ron Hamilton is not now, nor has he ever been a moderator at Avsim or any other FS Forums with the exception of the Eaglesoft Development Group forumsEd, I'm unsure about.... Perhaps he's a Russion KGB guy specialializing in tracking down those who register fictitious forum ID's in order to propogate their nasty little agendas. No wait, that's Jeremy, nope Bill L. masquerading as Geofa. Now I'm confused.. reminds me of the old Abbot and Costello routine "Who's on First?" :(
Abbot and Costello routine "Who's on First?" :(
I was pretty sure it was a 'The three stooges' thing...

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