brando:i believe you have made your choice about PMDG's 737.--

If one wants to use the free market example across different product lines...Then why is it, in the real world of aviation sales, an aircraft made in 2005 costs significantly less than a 2009 aircraft of the exact same type with almost identical times and cycles?brando

Because that's how the market values them.

I don't know the current status of the download version of the PMDG 736-737 NG. Because of their download policies I elected to get the CD versions from Aerosoft for both products for a few more dollars.What bothered me is that the 736/7 did not have a fully featured panel at the time so to get that you had had to acquire the 738/9 product to complete the feature set for the 736/737. TCAS was not implemented in the 736/7 for one but was added with the 738/9.Although Aerosoft's 738/9 CD can stand alone it still can be used to update the CD 736/7 version. This was about three/four years ago.

scoob:Have you guys at Feelthere increased the prices on your older products?Furthermore, why anyone would increase prices in this economy of a buyer's market is beyond my comprehension.brando

brando:i believe you have made your choice about PMDG's 737.--

Johan,What other software manufacturers have increased prices on software that has NOT been upgraded in 5 or 6 years? How much is FS9 or FSX now? Is it more than when they were released? What would everyone's reaction be if FSX cost $100 tomorrow?PMDG pricing correlating with inflation...Really?brando

Hahaha.. this is called inflation sir.My Dutch guilders were also more than halved in value when the damn euro came.Now everything is expensive here, and due to inflation more dan quadroupled.If you can imagine all the money created out of thin air, everything must be getting more expensive.Your salary goes up also, ergo, money is less value, so price goes up.I hope you dont be serious when you stated that ?

Bingo!

On software?? Would you pay $100 for Windows 3.11?

Bingo! Finally some common sense. Sorry I did not respond to your post here.brando

On software?? Would you pay $100 for Windows 3.11?

You don't understand how the market works.A developer sets a price for his product. Potential buyers decide whether or not to buy at that price. As long a enough buyers are prepared to pay that price and the developer is happy with the revenue it develops then there is no need to change the price. If the developer thinks it can increase its revenue by increasing the price then that's it should do.It really is as simple as that - it's nothing to do with age or any other irrelevant matters. It is simply a matter of demand.The reason Window 3.1 isn't sold at $100 is because buyers just don't don't want it - not because its old. The reason any developer's products are sold at their current prices is because enough people are prepared to buy at those prices to give the developer an acceptable revenue.

--------------------------What other software manufacturers have increased prices on software that has NOT been upgraded in 5 or 6 years? How much is FS9 or FSX now? Is it more than when they were released? brando

Change "software manufacturer" to "automobile manufacturer". A Model T Ford car (used) will command 5 to 10 times its original new price 90 years ago.And in fact, the highest price will be for a product that is exactly same as new. "Upgrading" will lower the value.Demand or lack of it, always sets the price. (I expect my present ancient 'puter with FS9 still running will be worth a lot of money in about 50 years time! Grandchildren please note.)Alex Reid

You know what I like...guys like Shez, and John Loney, and M1DG, and FFRS, and Milton Shupe, and Billy Rutherford, and Erick Cantu, and John Hinson, and Mike Stone, and Opa, and Greg Pepper, and Tom Gibson, and Christian Dupriez, and Pascal Proust, and Glen Fout, and Sidney Schwartz, and Seev Kahn, and Holger Sandmann, and Jon Patch, and Bill Womack, and Steve Ziegler, and Bill Leaming, and MAIW, and HTAI, and WOAI, and Lars Hoyer, and Lawrie Roache, and VOZ, and Winfied Orthmann, and Lee Swordy, and John Stinstrom, and Bill Melichar, and DBWSim, and you should add some other names to this list please...Mark

Johan,What other software manufacturers have increased prices on software that has NOT been upgraded in 5 or 6 years? How much is FS9 or FSX now? Is it more than when they were released? What would everyone's reaction be if FSX cost $100 tomorrow?

Lol, got your point captain, but maybe after a certain period, lets say 50 years, it might has that value..PMDG products may go up a bit faster.Anyhow, inflation is the issue.. if PMDG wants the same revenue, then they has to rais the price of it.If they see it dont sell anymore, it goes in the bargain bin, and the price will be lowerd or kept the same.Its all market, and how THEY see it fit.Johan

Furthermore, why anyone would increase prices in this economy of a buyer's market is beyond my comprehension.

is it a 'buyers market' for a 737NG at the fidelity of PMDG's?'buyers market' means one can demand and get a company/person to match a price of another person/company. FS addons don't really fall into that model as there are too few developers and vendors. why don't you try and get a 'matching price'? email PMDG and state the price you are willing to pay.--

Actually, it might be something more of a buyer's market when that I-Fly 737 shows up, since that will then mean there are three FS9 NGs available, and the PMDG one will be the oldest of the bunch, which might go some way to explaining the pricing change; like the Ariane FSX 737NG as the PMDG one nears release, the approach of the I-Fly FS9 NG means the timer is ticking down on the older PMDG NG as far as potential sales go, since PMDG are probably not going to do anything more at that product.Al

Firstly, I thought that a previous post from someone at an add-on company stated that economics apply to the flight-sim community in an earlier post in this string?Secondly, I would e-mail PMDG but Randazzo is unbelievably arrogant and has stated that 80 percent of their "clients" are European, so what would the point be? Given Randazzo's life outside of flight-simming according to an article done on him by Avsim, I don't think he needs any extra money from flight-simming.Thirdly, I am helping another add-on company...therefore I know the averaged financial structure of an add-on company. If operated properly, positive net revenues can begin to come in fairly quickly in comparison to a product's R&D to eventually a point where every sale is at about 80 - 85 percent profit.brando

is it a 'buyers market' for a 737NG at the fidelity of PMDG's?'buyers market' means one can demand and get a company/person to match a price of another person/company. FS addons don't really fall into that model as there are too few developers and vendors. why don't you try and get a 'matching price'? email PMDG and state the price you are willing to pay.--

You know what I like...guys like Shez, and John Loney, and M1DG, and FFRS, and Milton Shupe, and Billy Rutherford, and Erick Cantu, and John Hinson, and Mike Stone, and Opa, and Greg Pepper, and Tom Gibson, and Christian Dupriez, and Pascal Proust, and Glen Fout, and Sidney Schwartz, and Seev Kahn, and Holger Sandmann, and Jon Patch, and Bill Womack, and Steve Ziegler, and Bill Leaming, and MAIW, and HTAI, and WOAI, and Lars Hoyer, and Lawrie Roache, and VOZ, and Winfied Orthmann, and Lee Swordy, and John Stinstrom, and Bill Melichar, and DBWSim, and you should add some other names to this list please...Mark

Didn't Holger Sandmann charge for Misty Fjords or was that my imagination? I agree, there are many freeware developers that make decent products, but how many of them are of the caliber of a PMDG plane? I have a couple of CalClassic and Milton Shupes aircraft and are a dream to fly especially by hand, but honestly, they do

Johan,What other software manufacturers have increased prices on software that has NOT been upgraded in 5 or 6 years? How much is FS9 or FSX now? Is it more than when they were released? What would everyone's reaction be if FSX cost $100 tomorrow?

The price is whatever the market will bear. How long a piece of software has been out has nothing to do with it. Go look up the price of Nascar Racing 2003. It is still in great demand, even at the cost you will find.Your comparison to FSX at $100 has no real validity since you are leaving out other mitigating factors. If you do not want to pay the price that PMDG is asking for, go purchase the other high quality payware 737NG series. Oh wait..... :(Having no competition allows for a pretty open pricing scheme.

I find it fascinating that certain developers think that the flight-sim add-on market is in a class all its' very own whereby if anyone dares to question pricing, it is as if they are questioning someone's religion.Your sly little remark on other high quality 737NG products is interesting. Why? Well, a day is coming where there will be a new add-on company that will launch out of the simulated blue sky whereby Boeing, Air Force, and experimental aircraft will be available at a level of quality beyond what PMDG puts out there. The price? Freeware. ETA: 18 months.The comparison of Nascar is interesting...However let's talk airplanes here. What do you think the cost is of a 2003 B738 versus a 2008 B738 is with TT and Cycles being almost the same?brando

The price is whatever the market will bear. How long a piece of software has been out has nothing to do with it. Go look up the price of Nascar Racing 2003. It is still in great demand, even at the cost you will find.Your comparison to FSX at $100 has no real validity since you are leaving out other mitigating factors. If you do not want to pay the price that PMDG is asking for, go purchase the other high quality payware 737NG series. Oh wait..... :( Having no competition allows for a pretty open pricing scheme.

Again, Is feelThere increasing prices on its older software?brando

is it a 'buyers market' for a 737NG at the fidelity of PMDG's?'buyers market' means one can demand and get a company/person to match a price of another person/company. FS addons don't really fall into that model as there are too few developers and vendors. why don't you try and get a 'matching price'? email PMDG and state the price you are willing to pay.--