YOU accuse me of something, and of being a type of person, without knowing what Randazzo did to me, Sir. He accused me by stating I was not who I said I was amongst other things in front of all to see, and you think I am scummy. So where was your warning, or the then admin, to Randazzo then, Sir?My money remark was entirely based on an article Avsim did on Randazzo that someone sent me (hyperlinked web-page). I did not write the article, someone at Avsim did.This is a forum where no one can question a developer at any level. A developer can do no wrong by what I have observed here. Therefore I will no longer post in this forum, to everyone's delight here I am sure, because if anyone questions a developer it is like committing an unpardonable sin. It was proven to me from another party.brando

YOU are unbelievably arrogant and your remark about extra money is one of the most stupid thing I've read in this forum.I don't know and care for whom you are trying to "help bolster his sales" but let me tell you that you are not using the best method.Saying that your friend is a "very honest and ethical developer, unlike Randazzo" is a scummy personal attack and won't be tolerated here.First and last warning Sir.

YOU accuse me of something, and of being a type of person, without knowing what Randazzo did to me, Sir. He accused me by stating I was not who I said I was amongst other things in front of all to see, and you think I am scummy. So where was your warning, or the then admin, to Randazzo then, Sir?My money remark was entirely based on an article Avsim did on Randazzo that someone sent me (hyperlinked web-page). I did not write the article, someone at Avsim did.This is a forum where no one can question a developer at any level. A developer can do no wrong by what I have observed here. Therefore I will no longer post in this forum, to everyone's delight here I am sure, because if anyone questions a developer it is like committing an unpardonable sin. It was proven to me from another party.brando

Ok Brando-here is your quote:"Firstly, I thought that a previous post from someone at an add-on company stated that economics apply to the flight-sim community in an earlier post in this string?Secondly, I would e-mail PMDG but Randazzo is unbelievably arrogant and has stated that 80 percent of their "clients" are European, so what would the point be? Given Randazzo's life outside of flight-simming according to an article done on him by Avsim, I don't think he needs any extra money from flight-simming.Thirdly, I am helping another add-on company...therefore I know the averaged financial structure of an add-on company. If operated properly, positive net revenues can begin to come in fairly quickly in comparison to a product's R&D to eventually a point where every sale is at about 80 - 85 percent profit."Notice the part in red.We have no problem with a developer being questioned by simmers here -it happens here all the time despite what you claim.We do have a problem with a developer or someone working for a developer spreading malice towards fellow developers. It looks like you have made it rather black and white that this is the situation in your case via the red text above and your rude comments. It isn't only the mods that have taken notice in this thread....and lastly-we don't do rudeness here.Seems like you have covered every contingency here.

unlike Randazzo from what I have been told by other posts in different forums such as thisWhat part of the above underlined words are you not reading?brando

That's great, but I'd rather hear you reply to post #76.

Childish of me? Absolutely!Just thought I'd see how Randazzo would like it.brandoWe do have a problem with a developer or someone working for a developer spreading malice towards fellow developers. It looks like you have made it rather black and white that this is the situation in your case via the red text above and your rude comments. It isn't only the mods that have taken notice in this thread....and lastly-we don't do rudeness here.Seems like you have covered every contingency here.

unlike Randazzo from what I have been told by other posts in different forums such as thisWhat part of the above underlined words are you not reading?brando

Check out this underlined word..............goodbye. I don't tolerate an attitude towards anyone,especially not a fellow mod that dedicates so much time to making this forum welcoming for all.

That's great, but I'd rather hear you reply to post #76.

Its important to point out that he never did answer that. Instead went on a rude rant in 100 different pointless directions just to avoid answering and to cover what he said earlier. But that's the beauty of forums (especially the AVSIM one) its all there for everyone to see and read.............

Check out this underlined word..............goodbye.

Sig worthy? :(

Yup, this turned into a poorly-informed rant objecting to PMDG personnel, EADS, the EEC, China, Avsim's policies and its moderators, but apparently with no objection to being rude, or misrepresenting oneself or one's actions.What is more, if it were indeed true that 'no one can question a developer on any level - a developer can do no wrong here', as was one of the OPs complaints, then that assertion has just been blown right out of the water with the banning of the OP, who by his own admission was surreptitiously doing stuff on behalf of a developer. QED.Al

PMDG always complains about the lack of sales of their FS9 products. They state that this lack of sales is the reason for not continuing the development of FS9 products. But then they raise the prices of their FS9 products??? :( Huh?? That this is stupid learns every economic student in his first year at university. I think PMDG has to do some basic studies in business policy. They produce great stuff though!Wolfgang

PMDG always complains about the lack of sales of their FS9 products. They state that this lack of sales is the reason for not continuing the development of FS9 products. But then they raise the prices of their FS9 products??? :( Huh?? That this is stupid learns every economic student in his first year at university. I think PMDG has to do some basic studies in business policy. They produce great stuff though!Wolfgang

Have you and others considered the fact that PMDG as the builder and vendor gets to set their price and decide which version they wish to build for?It is rather odd for consumers to act as if they sit on the board and can pressure vendors into building and pricing to their preference.If consumers wish that right then they should organize a group and build what they wish and set their own prices... :(

Have you and others considered the fact that PMDG as the builder and vendor gets to set their price and decide which version they wish to build for?It is rather odd for consumers to act as if they sit on the board and can pressure vendors into building and pricing to their preference.If consumers wish that right then they should organize a group and build what they wish and set their own prices... :(

Vendors do get to set their prices and platforms however they see fit, cause after all, it is their products. However, we as the consumer have the right to an opinion as to wether we feel everything is "kosher" or not. A few years ago i did not have a single issue with PMDG, what really turned me away was the euro-USD bit. Is it because they have went fsx exclusively? ABSOLUTELY NOT. I just personally feel that things arn't inline over there anymore.P.S Again i want to say that They do make wonderful aircraft though.P.S.S Sometimes it is funny how a thread will evolve in the way this one did.

Frankly, the notion of this entire thread is based on something of a bogus premise with regard to the price of PMDG's older products going up. According to PMDG's website, their FS9 737NG 600/700 is priced at 44.95 (Dollars), which equates to exactly 30.64 in Pounds Sterling. Now I can certainly remember paying considerably more than that for a boxed version of that PMDG FS9 737-600/700 at PC World the UK when it first came out. I cannot quote the exact price I paid for it then, but I vaguely recall it being around 37 quid. One thing I do remember well enough though, is that it was certainly the most expensive add-on aircraft I had bought for FS at that time.I'm not especially disposed to bother working out what index-linking a price tag of approximately 37 quid over the past five years would put that price up to, but whatever it is, it would be a damn site more than the present 30.64 quid price tag, and there is no way thirty quid is the most expensive FS add-on you'd get these days.Coincidentally, I was in that very same PC World store today, buying a new optical mouse, and I chanced to look at some of the FS add-on aircraft which were on sale there. There wasn't one of them that was less than 30 quid, and most of those would still struggle to match the fidelity of the systems that are simulated in the FS9 PMDG 737. So it seems to me that the price has in fact gone down in real terms.Al

Frankly, the notion of this entire thread is based on something of a bogus premise with regard to the price of PMDG's older products going up. According to PMDG's website, their FS9 737NG 600/700 is priced at 44.95 (Dollars), which equates to exactly 30.64 in Pounds Sterling. Now I can certainly remember paying considerably more than that for a boxed version of that PMDG FS9 737-600/700 at PC World the UK when it first came out. I cannot quote the exact price I paid for it then, but I vaguely recall it being around 37 quid. One thing I do remember well enough though, is that it was certainly the most expensive add-on aircraft I had bought for FS at that time.I'm not especially disposed to bother working out what index-linking a price tag of approximately 37 quid over the past five years would put that price up to, but whatever it is, it would be a damn site more than the present 30.64 quid price tag, and there is no way thirty quid is the most expensive FS add-on you'd get these days.Coincidentally, I was in that very same PC World store today, buying a new optical mouse, and I chanced to look at some of the FS add-on aircraft which were on sale there. There wasn't one of them that was less than 30 quid, and most of those would still struggle to match the fidelity of the systems that are simulated in the FS9 PMDG 737. So it seems to me that the price has in fact gone down in real terms.Al

You are absolutely right. with all this back and forth in this thread, the original purpose of this thread was in regards to PMDG pricing, And I cant honestly say that the price for the 737 went up as I cannot remember how much I actually paid for this product, It was way too long ago to remember.Having said that my views on PMDG still remain the same unfortunetly.

Frankly, the notion of this entire thread is based on something of a bogus premise with regard to the price of PMDG's older products going up. According to PMDG's website, their FS9 737NG 600/700 is priced at 44.95 (Dollars), which equates to exactly 30.64 in Pounds Sterling. Now I can certainly remember paying considerably more than that for a boxed version of that PMDG FS9 737-600/700 at PC World the UK when it first came out. I cannot quote the exact price I paid for it then, but I vaguely recall it being around 37 quid. One thing I do remember well enough though, is that it was certainly the most expensive add-on aircraft I had bought for FS at that time.I'm not especially disposed to bother working out what index-linking a price tag of approximately 37 quid over the past five years would put that price up to, but whatever it is, it would be a damn site more than the present 30.64 quid price tag, and there is no way thirty quid is the most expensive FS add-on you'd get these days.Coincidentally, I was in that very same PC World store today, buying a new optical mouse, and I chanced to look at some of the FS add-on aircraft which were on sale there. There wasn't one of them that was less than 30 quid, and most of those would still struggle to match the fidelity of the systems that are simulated in the FS9 PMDG 737. So it seems to me that the price has in fact gone down in real terms.Al

Not to mention the PMDG MD-11. Both the FS9 and FSX models cost $53.8 bucks right now, and if I converted that into my local currency it costs Rp. 538.000,00!

"I'm not especially disposed to bother working out what index-linking a price tag of approximately 37 quid over the past five years would put that price up to, but whatever it is, it would be a damn site more than the present 30.64 quid price tag, and there is no way thirty quid is the most expensive FS add-on you'd get these days."At 4% annual inflation it's 46.71GBP or, this morning, 68.68USDMore than I'd want to pay.And, without looking, I imagine it's a lot more than the current retail price... but I can't decide if it's better value than a real one.D