As for spirit flyer in the post above this one......let's all have a guess as to what type of aircraft he is likely to fly?1. Tupolev TU-1542. Cessna 152

Tough question........... :(

That's what many 'smart' FS9 simmers are waiting on.

Hi Dillon. So with that remark are you saying that for those of us who have already switched platforms are 'dumb'? Frankly, I'm not sure where being smart or dumb comes into the picture. I prefer FSX in its current state on my current system, although I still have FS9 on my system but never use it, but I dont feel like switching platforms and enjoying what I have now was a dumb thing to do. We should all just enjoy what ever version we have.

Until then like what was said before if you have to compromise things like AI and scenery options leaving FSX looking no better than FS9 now is not the time to switch.

From my own experience AI doesn't seem to be that much of a factor anymore in either sim as far as hurting FPS with many better AI models that are out these days. As far as compromising scenery options, I think that it doesn't make as much of a visual difference as many would think and doesn't make it look like FS9. I can lower the Scenery Complexity slider to Dense, from Exteremly Dense and Very Dense, and I still have as many or more scenery objects than I do in the same area in FS9, plus I still have what I like better in higher res ground textures.Truthfully, my sim hasn't taken a lot of tweaks to get it to where it is now, although I did have it set up by a 3rd party and the only thing I have had to adjust were the light scalars, sound volumes and nominal things like that. It will be hard to say if any new CPU's in the future are really going to make FSX run any better than what the i7's do now. If I had fraps and the time and inclination to make videos, I think a lot of people would be stunned to see how well FSX looks and runs on my older dual core that only cost me $1800 2 years ago to put together.Frankly, I never understand why in these type of threads that end up being FS9 vs. FSX preference, why so many that use/prefer FS9 have doubts that many of us can run FSX well in an 'airliner' or 'IFR' environment? I dont have to compromise settings to make it look like or the same as FS9 when flying airliners, although some may.

Seriously, who the h@ll cares, fly what you want and enjoy it, after all the only reason we are all simming is for enjoyment so whatever gives you that enjoyment, more power to you!!! But to say that you had your system configured by a 3rd party (surely FS-GS) which probably took Hours and $$ and then in the same sentence to say all you had to adjust was volume etc... is a HUGE contradiction. Either you didn't have to do anything or you had it 3rd party configured but it can't be both... ;) Either way I could care less as long as you are happy but at least call it like it is...-P

Truthfully, my sim hasn't taken a lot of tweaks to get it to where it is now, although I did have it set up by a 3rd party ..........

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Seriously, who the h@ll cares, fly what you want and enjoy it, after all the only reason we are all simming is for enjoyment so whatever gives you that enjoyment, more power to you!!! But to say that you had your system configured by a 3rd party (surely FS-GS) which probably took Hours and $$ and then in the same sentence to say all you had to adjust was volume etc... is a HUGE contradiction. Either you didn't have to do anything or you had it 3rd party configured but it can't be both... ;) Either way I could care less as long as you are happy but at least call it like it is...-P

Ok that may not have sounded right when I said I didn't need to tweak but have it set up by a 3rd party. What I meant by saying that I didn't need to do any tweaks except the few little things and that I had a 3rd party set it up, was that I didn't need to do any of the research or trial and error of tweaking myself. Sitting in front of my computer following instuctions being given verbally isn't in my mind actually tweaking, its just following instructions. To me tweaking is reading ideas in the fourms, then trying them using trial and error. Frankly, my cfg is pretty stock.Yes, I had to physically be at the computer while the 3rd party was setting everything up, but that was a lot easier than trying a lot of tweaks on my own and going around in circles. My one time 3rd party setup took about 6 hours total, but imho 6 hours spent over the last 2 years is nothing compared to the time that must be spent by a lot of users I see posting in the FSX forum who are constantly trying new tweaks.But like I have said and others here have said, WHO really cares, we should each just enjoy what we have and let others enjoy their choice as well.

...................What I meant by saying that I didn't need to do any tweaks except the few little things and that I had a 3rd party set it up, was that I didn't need to do any of the research or trial and error of tweaking myself. Sitting in front of my computer following instuctions being given verbally isn't in my mind actually tweaking, its just following instructions. To me tweaking is reading ideas in the fourms, then trying them using trial and error. Frankly, my cfg is pretty stock with the only changes being light scalars and I am using the stock shaders.Yes, I had to physically be at the computer while the 3rd party was setting everything up, but that was a lot easier than trying a lot of tweaks on my own and going around in circles. My one time 3rd party setup took about 6 hours total, but imho 6 hours spent over the last 2 years is nothing compared to the time that must be spent by a lot of users I see posting in the FSX forum who are constantly trying new tweaks.

6 hours!!!!!!!! to install FSX................How many tweaks did this mysterious 3rd party do?I am sorry but this all sounds contradictory & sort of hypocritical to me - saying that you didn't use any tweaks and then that you had a 3rd party tweak around with your FSX for 6 hours.................Most of us use tweaks in FS9 and FSX - no shame in that.

6 hours!!!!!!!! to install FSX................How many tweaks did this mysterious 3rd party do?I am sorry but this all sounds wired (& sort of hypocritical) to me - saying that you didn't use any tweaks and then that you had a 3rd party tweak around with your FSX for 6 hours.................

LOL, 6 hours sounds like a lot, but thats including a lot of of reboots, changes to the operating system, nHancer, the security/virus scanned (NOD32), the defrag program, Ultimate Terrain, and REX or FEX. It's not that 6 hours was spent in the cfg or mip mapping AI textures. Basically it started with a fresh install of Windows, FSX w/SP's installed, sceneries and aircraft installed, virus scanner, and nHancer. Then the fellow at FS-GS goes to work adjusting all of these things including setting up Ulitmate Terrain and REX. During the whole process the computer needs to be rebooted a bunch of times. The only thing I needed to adjust to my liking were volumes, ATC voices, light scalers, etc.It's not weird at all, Avsim did a review a while back on this mysterious 3rd party http://www.avsim.com/pages/0306/FSGS/fsgs.htmUsually the only people who disparage it are ones who haven't used it, pretty much everyone I have seen post here on Avsim or another FS sites regarding using their service has had nothing but good things to say about it. As far as all the stuff they did on my system I couldn't say because it was too much to remember completely and even if I did remember I would have to respect thier wishes not to post the contents of it.Maybe its one of the reasons I can run FSX well in an "airliner" environement? Hard to say though, because I never tried FSX prior to my initial install.

Don't know about these people ( http://www.avsim.com/pages/0306/FSGS/fsgs.htm ) - not really interested in other people setting up my sim and/or PC.I am happy for you that they got your system and FSX to run well.But you have to admit that at-least some tweaking with your FSX did take place.Its not accurate to say that you just use FSX with no tweaks and all runs 25-30fps with 100% AI while flying in a complex airliner.

Don't know about these people ( http://www.avsim.com/pages/0306/FSGS/fsgs.htm ) - not really interested in other people setting up my sim and/or PC.I am happy for you that they got your system and FSX to run well.

Thanks. I probably wouldn't have wanted anyone fiddling with my PC either, but after all the good remarks I read about them I decided to give it a try, especially since the Avsim reviewer gave them a good review. They dont charge you until after they compete the service and if your not happy you dont pay.I look at them kind of in the same regards as an auto mechanic. If the engine in my car blows, I could probably get the info, tools and parts to fix it myself, but I would rather leave it to someone who specializes in that type of work who can fix it properly and quickly the first time around. FS-GS is kind of the same in that regards, that is all they do is set up flight sims and test addons. I could probably have done a lot of research and a lot of trial and error, but for my money I would rather spend time flying than trying different things.

But you have to admit that at-least some tweaking with your FSX did take place.Its not accurate to say that you just use FSX with no tweaks and all runs 25-30fps with 100% AI while flying in a complex airliner.

I dont think it was so much tweaking as it was getting a good base set up for the OS, then getting the best settings for NOD and nHancer. I think since my rig is FSX only use and I started with a fresh install of the OS and everything else, that maybe one reason I got off to a good start. The only real tweaking was the time I spent mip mapping all my AI. I could post my fsx.cfg and you would see that the settings, aside from the Trusted section are all pretty much normal settings via the sliders in FSX.Not accurate you say? You have a welcome invitation to house if your ever in town and you WILL see 25+ FPS first hand while I am flying a complex airliner with 100% AI. FSX isn't as tough on FPS as you may think, but then this argument could go back and fourh all day and since everyone set up is SO vastly different in the combinations of hardware, software and addons, that it's no wonder one person gets great performance while the fellow next door is struggling.Anyways, this thread was started by a fellow who converted FSX and is happy flying airliners in it, so once again I say to him that I am happy for him and enjoy your new sim.

It's actually quite good that we have these discussions from time to time, to see where things are at.I recall when FSX was first released, how earnest were the posts of those who embraced the new sim.Adamant, too, about how they'd never go "back".I bought my first multicore machine on the strength of that earnestness, and was fortunate enough to be delighted with the FS9 experience that then opened up for me. :( I guess when there are only 2 or 3 posts a month in an FS9 forum like this one, it will be time to go have a look where all the simmers have gone to... My prediction is around 2013, and the branding might be Aerosoft.

For the summer season, I had planned to buy a brand new system and switch to FSX.Now I am lost. I am not sure where to go...My system is 3years old but pretty stable and optimized. I am afraid that switching to 7-64bits will be a hassle and FS9 will not really benefit from it. And FSX....can someone guide me?PS: I am focused on ATC flying (RCv4 with LeonardoSH for example) and AI Traffic...ThanksGhiom

how did you convert flytampa senery into FSX?how did mike make flytampa senery work in FSX?

how did you convert flytampa senery into FSX?how did mike make flytampa senery work in FSX?

Assuming your asking the oringinal poster, I am still waiting for a response as well.I even sent Mike T a PM asking the same thing in case he didn't see our questions, but he hasn't responded to my message yet.

For the summer season, I had planned to buy a brand new system and switch to FSX.Now I am lost. I am not sure where to go...My system is 3years old but pretty stable and optimized. I am afraid that switching to 7-64bits will be a hassle and FS9 will not really benefit from it. And FSX....can someone guide me?PS: I am focused on ATC flying (RCv4 with LeonardoSH for example) and AI Traffic...ThanksGhiom

I'd wait a little while longer and buy a machine. The longer you wait the more powerful PC's will be and the easier FSX will be to setup. If FS9 is stable and running well on your current rig there's little reason to switch now.

I'd wait a little while longer and buy a machine. The longer you wait the more powerful PC's will be and the easier FSX will be to setup. If FS9 is stable and running well on your current rig there's little reason to switch now.

Agreed!IMO, FSX really offers nothing more than FS9 for folks who are into the heavy metal...especially with regards to add-ons like the Maddog which are merely ported over to FSX and don't over true FSX models. Again, just my opinion.