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New DirectX Out today

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I'll wait until Windows update tells me it's available.
Windows Update does not update DirectX.Dave
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Another topic: Guys, where does this anxiety towards a new Directx come from? There's no bad thing in such files and they usually don't put out this stuff without testing it.
If that were true my job as a systems administrator would be very easy indeed. My stance is there should be a motivating factor that drives you to make the adjustment, or install a new version. Installing for the sake of installing is not usually a wise decision.

- Aaron

According to the link:The DirectX end-user installation includes the D3DX, HLSL Compiler, XInput, XAudio, and Managed DirectX 1.1 components. Note that the DirectX Runtime (Direct3D, DirectInput, DirectSound) is not part of this package as it is included as part of the Windows operating system, and therefore cannot be installed or uninstalled.

Gerry Howard

Seems like the only aim of this update is to push the Bing toolbar, few people are out of date from what I've read........surprised they didn't try and stuff a Silverlight update down my throat too. :(

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If that were true my job as a systems administrator would be very easy indeed. My stance is there should be a motivating factor that drives you to make the adjustment, or install a new version. Installing for the sake of installing is not usually a wise decision.
Lets don't get political but the main cause for leaks and "open doors" at productive systems are not-up to date installations.But if one gets anxious about updating (in this case, as we saw, this isn't an update of course and even if it was, FSX doesn't care) DirectX, I wonder what he thinks and does if more vital and protective parts are outdated or "should be updated". After every MS bulletin towards new fixes and patches, you can see the whole bad Internet people running towards exactly those mentioned things because they know that some operators are a little lazy in updating and now they have the open doors documented by Microsoft itself together with the knowledge that many people still will have to go for the fixes of them.Unpatched Brwosers, PDF readers, media players and so on expand the "watch for updates" ranges even more.I also think that DirectX is a bad example for being anxious and arguing with some administrative work of any kind. As long as you don't run your FSX on your productive systems (do you?), you can even blow that installation (which will be hard to do with this tiny DirectX update) and loose nothing that can't be repaired.But as I said, this policy is a very personal thing and you can do whatever you think is right. I just jumped on this "I'm an administrator" thing and state my viewpoint there.As FSX will mostly run on non-productive systems, the only downside of not being up to date will be a missing feature, an unsolved flaw or just not existent while the danger of being "too" up to date only arises when using beta stuff and very, very seldom when going for final update versions. So it might be useful to develop a sight on the private aspect of this FSX installation and leave all the business related things out.Otherwise you would live in constant fear of any new version number and if you were a dev on FSX based software, you should have a backup to stay productive all the time.The most problems I see in flight sim forums arise from the fact that people use outdated modules and software (sometimes knowledge which surely affects me too), so if we stay practically oriented here: updates are the way to go, at least the final ones. Just my point of view.

Apparently some haven’t been around very long, DX releases can be like beta releases, and DX has deep hooks, not easy to remove can even be a problem with restore points, and then you wait for weeks or months for a fix.And sometimes they break things; “hey my reflections are gone” was one of them in fact. It is foolish to install every latest driver and API at the second they are released and un-proven unless you have no problem with reformats and reinstalling the OS and all your software, but as you say, do what YOU want.No "Strange fear" here, its that not that much has changed and if you are wise “if ain’t broke don’t fix it” works pretty good in the case of un-tried un-proven (and if you dont know what that means, dont post stupid advice) DirectX, Chipset drivers, Bios and service paks and software upgrades > 3DSmax, Cad etc...etc...

Lets don't get political but the main cause for leaks and "open doors" at productive systems are not-up to date installations.But if one gets anxious about updating (in this case, as we saw, this isn't an update of course and even if it was, FSX doesn't care) DirectX, I wonder what he thinks and does if more vital and protective parts are outdated or "should be updated". After every MS bulletin towards new fixes and patches, you can see the whole bad Internet people running towards exactly those mentioned things because they know that some operators are a little lazy in updating and now they have the open doors documented by Microsoft itself together with the knowledge that many people still will have to go for the fixes of them.Unpatched Brwosers, PDF readers, media players and so on expand the "watch for updates" ranges even more.I also think that DirectX is a bad example for being anxious and arguing with some administrative work of any kind. As long as you don't run your FSX on your productive systems (do you?), you can even blow that installation (which will be hard to do with this tiny DirectX update) and loose nothing that can't be repaired.But as I said, this policy is a very personal thing and you can do whatever you think is right. I just jumped on this "I'm an administrator" thing and state my viewpoint there.As FSX will mostly run on non-productive systems, the only downside of not being up to date will be a missing feature, an unsolved flaw or just not existent while the danger of being "too" up to date only arises when using beta stuff and very, very seldom when going for final update versions. So it might be useful to develop a sight on the private aspect of this FSX installation and leave all the business related things out.Otherwise you would live in constant fear of any new version number and if you were a dev on FSX based software, you should have a backup to stay productive all the time.The most problems I see in flight sim forums arise from the fact that people use outdated modules and software (sometimes knowledge which surely affects me too), so if we stay practically oriented here: updates are the way to go, at least the final ones. Just my point of view.
You aren't really comparing Microsoft security patches with DirectX updates are you? They really aren't even in the same ballpark in my opinion, and if you re-read what I said initially you'll see that I specifically stated that there should be a compelling reason to apply updates. Clearly security implications are at the top of the "compelling reason" list.The mention of my occupation was not intended to serve as justification for not updating, it was merely a comment to refute the blanket statement you made about feeling comfortable in updating merely because someone somewhere has tested the release. Almost everything released gets tested in some fashion which in no way means that it is stable. My occupation has proven to me that every update that has been found to be the root cause of a particular problem has ultimately been tested by someone. This is one of the primary functions of our test lab. To test patches from vendors, including Microsoft, that have already been through their own vendor testing. This doesn't mean it's going to be flawless on my systems. So stating that there should be no trepidation about an update because it has been tested is a dangerous recommendation.Again, if there is a particular issue you are looking to resolve, or specific functionality your are looking to add, the by all means have at it. Otherwise blind faith might not always be the best approach. That much is true in all scenarios be it business or personal.

- Aaron

freebird77, you should better follow your signature saying "Go Flying!!!" before your blame people to "post stupid advice" I think. Much better for your heart it seems since I haven't posted any advice but a personal viewpoint so far.As my perspective of this strange update fear and those "pro" explanations towards it seems to have raised some peoples pulse I better admit to have been off topic while you went even more "off" by getting inappropriate.So please stay as professional as you can and return to normal spheres where people discuss thinks instead of affronting each other. This would make your viewpoints look much more mature in a way. If you think that a final DirectX update could harm your system: feel free to think like that. No damage done on my side.Back to the actual topic: this one update isn't really an update as the files are still from June2010. Another guy explained that even if there were new DirectX files available, Fsx wouldn't take benefit out of it. The first poster gave a heads up on something that he thought was new and all of those mentioned people acted helpful and community oriented while others gave their feedback to develop some findings towards this update.A good example of good community work while the emerging emotions of one guy ruined the average value of this thread. Normal forum reality somehow but surely something to further improve.Enjoy your flights, updated or not. :smile:Impressive performance gain, yankeegolf3. Big%20Grin.gif

freebird77, you should better follow your signature saying "Go Flying!!!" before your blame people to "post stupid advice" I think. Much better for your heart it seems since I haven't posted any advice but a personal viewpoint so far.As my perspective of this strange update fear and those "pro" explanations towards it seems to have raised some peoples pulse I better admit to have been off topic while you went even more "off" by getting inappropriate.So please stay as professional as you can and return to normal spheres where people discuss thinks instead of affronting each other. This would make your viewpoints look much more mature in a way. If you think that a final DirectX update could harm your system: feel free to think like that. No damage done on my side.Back to the actual topic: this one update isn't really an update as the files are still from June2010. Another guy explained that even if there were new DirectX files available, Fsx wouldn't take benefit out of it. The first poster gave a heads up on something that he thought was new and all of those mentioned people acted helpful and community oriented while others gave their feedback to develop some findings towards this update.A good example of good community work while the emerging emotions of one guy ruined the average value of this thread. Normal forum reality somehow but surely something to further improve.Enjoy your flights, updated or not. :smile:Impressive performance gain, yankeegolf3. Big%20Grin.gif
Yeah, sounds like the voice of expereince. Just%20Kidding.gif Sorry, let me be more proffessional, I should have said when someone offers the opinion that there is no fear in grabbing the very latest API update (sounds like advice to me) it is a rather stupid Big%20Grin.gif and unnecessary risk to take when, as mention by others in this thread; that unless you have some unusual problem it is wise to wait for some accumulative feedback that all works ok for the programs that you run or will be running. Its simple good practical advice for all.Live Long and Postless.:(

Very mature behavior indeed and impressive arguments too. Thanks for showing your class on this.

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Thanks Jim, now let's wait for the feedback ;)
... looks like we have feedback *******! WOW, people, cant we all just get along! :(

Jim Wenham

Feedback, indeed.We have some guys (nearly all, including me) thanking you for the heads up on this, some did try the installer and received "already up to date" while others could install and saw no or small changes. One very good input about the nature of the FSX related DirectX files which showed no update since 2007, some explanations about the still June2010 based package and last and least the very professional point of view that people who update regulary are stupid (thanks to freebird77 for this very special insight about your pro-ish viewpoint).So there's quite some amount of data to process in my eyes. :(

Never touch a running system... :(
Not good advice ... a patch or an update could improve your system further.  

I double your words, Tierborn, it could and most final versions actually do. But one has to accept careful approaches of course and as long as nobody calls the other side "stupid", both variants are perfectly acceptable.As both procedures run the risk of causing trouble if they are applied across-the-board, one has to develop a bias to stay flaw-free and feature (and performance)-rich.As you saw, speaking of an anxiety was a mistake and lead to inappropriate wording of one guy who feels very smart when affronting others. Clever, huh?

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