All those newly released manuals - do they have any information about how the PMDG 737 is operated? I mean i guess there much be something that differs from the real thing since you control it with a mouse. So is this manual included in the released ones - or are they just copies of the real ones?

All those newly released manuals - do they have any information about how the PMDG 737 is operated? I mean i guess there much be something that differs from the real thing since you control it with a mouse. So is this manual included in the released ones - or are they just copies of the real ones?

In fact, they have actually every information about how the 737 is operated. I don't have those printed ones but as far as I understand it the "big" ones everyone is talking about these days are "just" copies of the real ones. So indeed this should be what you need most of the time since from what we've heard we can expect 99.9% of the features of the real plane to be operable in the sim, minus CBs and probably a few other minor things that have extremly little or no meaning at all as far as desktop simulation goes (and WXR, haha, forgot to mention lol ).Nevertheless, you seem to be asking for a manual explaining more general things like installation, operation of the mouse, and simulation settings. I haven't heard of it but I am convinced there will be documentation on that as well, but obviously it is not included with the printed editions because maybe there will be changes in the simulation until release so this info might not yet be finalized. As I said, for the actual operation of the plane you'd most certainly only need the docs that have been released a few days ago. Anyways, isn't it a great fact alone that you will be able to simply stick to the real manuals to operate this add-on? You can start to study the important things right now, with the release still some time ahead, and the things you ask for will be negligible, I'm sure you will master them within a short time, like usage of the mouse etc. :(

Think he's asking if the stuff in the manuals can actually be applied to the simulation? Do the manuals have an application, such as, will I ever actually need the "Fuel imbalance" page in the QRH? Will the sim ever randomly give me one etc? Handling etc.

As someone who has the MD-11X manuals yes they explain how to use the aircraft in the simulator, but they do not explain how to install it.. That installer will have all the instructions for proper installation of the aircraft. Yes you will also need all of the pages in the QRH if it is like the MD-11X as only failures that will happen in the sim are listed in the QRH. Tomorrow when I get my Cheif Pilot's Set for the NGX I will be putting up a side by side comparison of them to the MD-11X paper manuals. I will not give any critical information though. It will mainly be a how they look, feel, quality, and amount of sheer information compared to what has been previously offered. In the MD-11X though there was no useless information. It was all custom tailored to the PMDG MD-11 from the real MD-11 publications. So I would expect the same in this. The fact that they redid the entire way they do aircraft very possibly means they really did build a 100% 737NG for FSX.

These are real life flight manuals, they don't describe stuff specific to the sim. Those manuals that describe the sim-specific things will come with the NGX itself.

I think RSR has already answered these questions in some detail. [Edit:...aaaand now Ryan has, too.]

Edited December 9, 201015 yr by EMB120

These are real life flight manuals, they don't describe stuff specific to the sim. Those manuals that describe the sim-specific things will come with the NGX itself.

Doesn't do anything but cost a lot and give you a good ego boost for a while if they have no use in flight simulator. What's the use in reading about how to handle the aircraft in an engine out event if the NGX doesn't require it as it's not modelled or the FSX dynamics are not up to it...he was asking if they had application I think. The way he worded it sounds like he could have also said "Well surely as this is just flight sim and not sitting in the real aircraft flying it, it would be difficult to use the real manuals all the time? it must be a good simulation if the real manuals have a direct translation into flight sim"But we know it should be, so I think that pretty much answers the question I thought he was asking, You can operate the aircraft as per the REAL manual as PMDG are pure awesome.

From the MD-11X they do a really good job. I have had everything from hydraulic fluid over heating, to hydraulic fluid leaking out. Engines out, fuel imbalances, engine fires, IRS failures, had a MPD (the screens) go bad. I lost electrics one time and had to deploy the RAT to gain basic functionality back. Is all I can think of off the top of my head. A lot of the other failures were not immediate emergencies, and "land as soon as practical" type things.. Is why I was saying the QRH for NGX looks about twice as thick as the QRH for the MD-11X. So to me that means they crammed in that much more stuff into the NGX.

As far as I had understood and the team or others will correct me if I'm wrong. Those sold are the beoings one because everything should be in the sim, as much as minor things as said, Weather Radar because no data is correctly put inside of FSX that can help providing a proper and real weahter radar, mainly about precipitations as I understood, and obviously some systems like the Circuit Brakers panel, though it wmight be nice, I'm not sure they are involved in a lot of procedures and probably used mainly by maintenance. As for the QRH again from what I had understood every failure can occur in the sim, and would occur randomly (even if I think there might be an options to avoid them) and the stats they are using are from boeing so you can expect many type of failures that would probably go from very minor ones to heavy ones. And actually all the data will be provided with the downloadable aircraft, only things they are not sure is weather or not these document will be printable or not.@Roadburner426: That's the kind of things I'm also interested in the sim, could you please tell me the settings you're using for the MD11, I just really start to use it recently now that I can take really advantage of the VC, and I'm not sure of what values to use so that they are enough but not too much :) (maybe in PM as it is a bit off topic ;)) thanks ;)

Are you talking about using the failure module for the MD-11X, and the settings I use for it? I usually set it to random failures with 10 as my low number, but no more than a maximum of 30.. Usually things do not escalate to far out of control, but there is quite a bit of variability in there. Like I said I was shocked the one time that I got the HYD TEMP HI caution, as I didn't realize that was modeled. The MD-11's logic automatically shut the pump down which then turned it into a X SYS PRESS LOW. After a few unsucessful attempts at utitilizing that pump I guess there is a heat exchanger or something in the hyd system that must cool the fluid? I wound up crossing it over with the #2 system though, and everything was fine after that.. Is why I am curious to see NGX's failure system as RSR said it has been completely revamped. Depending on the final outcome of that things could get very interesting instead of the normal failure modules we have with the 744/MD-11X. If you other concerns though feel free to PM me. Always good to share knowledge between fellow MD drivers.

So, question... The manuals we can purchase in the Captain's and Chief Pilot's set are the real deal and the ones that come with the NGX are the tuned down versions of the real ones? Sorry if I sound ignorant but I thought that the paper manuals were to be identical to the PDF ones.

and the ones that come with the NGX are the tuned down versions of the real ones

you are making it up as no one here said anything suggesting this.

you are making it up as no one here said anything suggesting this.

Michael, I'm going off of what Ryan said. "These are real life flight manuals, they don't describe stuff specific to the sim. Those manuals that describe the sim-specific things will come with the NGX itself. " So they're either different or the ones that come with the sim will have MORE sim-specific content.

No, there will be additional sim-specific manuals. Is it so hard to understand that? I am often puzzled how simplest words on these forums can be twisted and their meaning corrupted.

No, there will be additional sim-specific manuals. Is it so hard to understand that? I am often puzzled how simplest words on these forums can be twisted and their meaning corrupted.

Its funny you mention that because I am often puzzled as to how the simplest of words in these forums can evoke such mean spirited replies. Get off your internet soapbox. The tone of your posts are always ill mannered. Get over yourself.