This is scary:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMKGv3KFqKo&feature=player_embeddedLucky for me I was not on the crj, as it must have been one heck of a shock to passengers.Glad there were no injuries.

It's just like the fat lady oozing over both sides from the middle seat in coach. These oversized planes need to pay for two taxiways.It looks like they need some new procedures or markings at JFK. The wingspan is 11 meters wider than a 747. Even with a more normal-sized plane, though, this would have been a bit too close for comfort. Considering how the Comair plane was tossed around, I think "clips" is kind of a mild term for this collision.

My God. The people in the front and rear must have been thrown from their seats like rag dolls. Very violent.The A380 pilot was taxiing way too fast to begin with. Should have been going this speed: http://www.break.com/index/airplane-knocks-over-truck.html

My God. The people in the front and rear must have been thrown from their seats like rag dolls. Very violent.The A380 pilot was taxiing way too fast to begin with. Should have been going this speed: http://www.break.com/index/airplane-knocks-over-truck.html

No, he wasn't too fast. The speed of the A380 in this video is between 20-30kts which is the recommended taxispeed for most Airliners....

No, he wasn't too fast. The speed of the A380 in this video is between 20-30kts which is the recommended taxispeed for most Airliners....

Why don't you watch the video again? The speed was too fast in the vicinity of ground crew and other parked/moving aircraft. It's a common sense sort of thing that comes down to the judgment of the pilot. 20-30 knots is incredibly too fast around other vehicles and I find it hard to believe this comment came from a self proclaimed professional pilot. Maybe on a wide parallel taxiway your 20-30kt rule of thumb is decent, but not in this situation. And guess what the NTSB report is going to say?!...

And guess what the NTSB report is going to say?!...

That controllers shouldn't allow big planes to taxi close to another one that's just started to park.

Why don't you watch the video again? The speed was too fast in the vicinity of ground crew and other parked/moving aircraft. It's a common sense sort of thing that comes down to the judgment of the pilot. 20-30 knots is incredibly too fast around other vehicles and I find it hard to believe this comment came from a self proclaimed professional pilot. Maybe on a wide parallel taxiway your 20-30kt rule of thumb is decent, but not in this situation. And guess what the NTSB report is going to say?!...

I would honestly be surprised if a probable is issued in this accident; most likely we will only see a factual.But I agree with you the A380 appears to be taxiing at an inappropriate speed.

I can just imagine how that must have startled the crew of the CRJ! Brown underware time?My vote for the best comment is this hypothetical cabin announcement by the AF pilot:

Thank you for flying Air France and if any of you guys know of a job opening text me at 888-IM-SCREWED

> I find it hard to believe this comment came from a self proclaimed professional pilot. Maybe on a wide parallel taxiway your 20-30kt rule of thumb is decent, but not in this situation.

Well, I and many others taxi on this very taxiway at 20-30kts because it's a very long straight taxiway. Even at 3kts he would have hit the CRJ.Do you think it would be better to stop at every taxiway especially at JFK and call for a wing walker? Good luck.I can't understand why some self proclaimed GA flight instructors always tend become immediately aggressive or insulting. I sincerely hope that you are talking in a different way to your 'students'

Well, I and many others taxi on this very taxiway at 20-30kts because it's a very long straight taxiway. Even at 3kts he would have hit the CRJ.Do you think it would be better to stop at every taxiway especially at JFK and call for a wing walker? Good luck.I can't understand why some self proclaimed GA flight instructors always tend become immediately aggressive or insulting. I sincerely hope that you are talking in a different way to your 'students'

+1

Well, I and many others taxi on this very taxiway at 20-30kts because it's a very long straight taxiway. Even at 3kts he would have hit the CRJ.Do you think it would be better to stop at every taxiway especially at JFK and call for a wing walker? Good luck.I can't understand why some self proclaimed GA flight instructors always tend become immediately aggressive or insulting. I sincerely hope that you are talking in a different way to your 'students'

I agree with ZachLW: On long taxiways and when in the clear, maintain speed. But when nearing parked aircraft, slowing down would seem the wise/cautious thing to do.BTW the NTSB report will read: "Busy airports shouldn't let summer interns do the valet-parking of aircraft!" :-)Cheers,- jahman.

No, he wasn't too fast. The speed of the A380 in this video is between 20-30kts which is the recommended taxispeed for most Airliners....

Wrong. A quick check of the FAA and a couple of random manuals will shows that none of them are foolish enough these days to recommend an actual speed to taxi at given the potential liability. The closest thing to a recommended taxi speed was the old "brisk walk" speed that was in the old FAA PTS. It looks like even that has been pulled with nothing but statements about safety and avoiding objects in its place. A check of three manuals on my shelf, EMB-145, 767, and 747 show that none of them recommends a taxi speed. The only thing you will find will be a maximum taxi speed. And that was 25kts on the 747. And maximum certainly does not equate to recommended. 30kts? Really? Maybe if you are on your last leg going home to days off, maybe. Recommended? No. On the EMB-145, ground spoilers deploy automatically at wheelspeeds in excess of 25kts. In other words, the plane's logic thinks you're on the runway. One of the things FAA inspectors have tried to bust EMB-145 pilots on was unsafe taxi speed based on watching them taxi by with the spoilers up.

Maybe you shouldn't do a 'quick' check but an in-depth check of your manuals (if they aren't outdated) then you will see that e.g. Boeing recommends 30kts for the 767.Make an educated guess why that might be.....

Well, I and many others taxi on this very taxiway at 20-30kts because it's a very long straight taxiway. Even at 3kts he would have hit the CRJ.Do you think it would be better to stop at every taxiway especially at JFK and call for a wing walker? Good luck.I can't understand why some self proclaimed GA flight instructors always tend become immediately aggressive or insulting. I sincerely hope that you are talking in a different way to your 'students'

And at 20-30kts, if the captain saw that there wasn't enough room to clear the CRJ as it went past his window, would there have been time to stop? At 3kts, if the captain saw that there wasn't enough room to clear the CRJ as it went past his window, there would probably have been a better chance at stopping in time before the planes traded paint. Where did any of the people above called for stopping or calling for a wingwalker at every intersection, bstolle? That's just another one of your silly extrapolations. How about just going slow enough that you can avoid hitting objects that are in the way. Especially if you're driving the biggest plane in the world at night at a busy airport with taxiways barely wide enough for you. I can't understand why some self proclaimed "airline" pilots always become immediately aggressive or insulting. I sincerely hope that you are talking in a different way to your 'crew'

Maybe you shouldn't do a 'quick' check but an in-depth check of your manuals (if they aren't outdated) then you will see that e.g. Boeing recommends 30kts for the 767.Make an educated guess why that might be.....

Because everyone knows the faster vehicle wins the collision.

Well, I and many others taxi on this very taxiway at 20-30kts because it's a very long straight taxiway. Even at 3kts he would have hit the CRJ.Do you think it would be better to stop at every taxiway especially at JFK and call for a wing walker? Good luck.I can't understand why some self proclaimed GA flight instructors always tend become immediately aggressive or insulting. I sincerely hope that you are talking in a different way to your 'students'

When you take the wife shopping do you drive around crowded carparks at 30 mph just because the last speed restriction you encountered said 30 mph max? Common sense, mate...I suspect this will be set down to pilot error but there's surely a case for disciplinary action against whoever suggested the apron layout is suitable for such large aircraft.I see EGLL has a specific ground movement chart for the A380. Is that common or just something the airport management took upon themselves?http://www.nats-uk.ead-it.com/public/index.php%3Foption=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=94&Itemid=143.htmlRegards,D