April 17, 201115 yr so far after loading i did not get even to 40 fps, so im positive i did somthing wrong.No, you just need to overclock yours. There are various overclocking guides for SB cpu's, like this one:http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/overclocking/39184-p67-sandy-bridge-overclocking-guide-beginners.html | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
April 17, 201115 yr Author Greetings Bro. Mike,While you are still playing around you may want to consider use of a Raid Controller Card on your current system. Software Raid is actually less efficient than hardware Raid because the software must now control the Raid as well as run the program. This is why a controller card is recommended http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816116110 You will need a battery backup or UPS if you go this route.Highly recommend the OS not be on Raid. Too much going on there with page file and stuff and the way Raid works making it very ineffcient, best on a single drive.Congratulations on the new rig and pleased it is working well for you.Greetings Bro. GaryGreat find. I was pretty disappointed to see the Windows drive score still at 5.9 so I'll give this a try...it should speed things up a bit. I've got a 1500 Watt Battery backup connected to this rig so it should be good to go.
April 17, 201115 yr Hi Mike,Before you load up FSX why not contribute to the FSX database by downloading and reading through the procedures for running FSXMark11 Benchtest (link in my signature)? We could really use your help! Then when you download FSX, before any addons, you could run the test as specified. The community is really beginning to gain some solid performance information that is objectively based.Kind regards,Stephen, I most certainly will. The database is one of the things that helped me to make a decision on doing this upgrade.
April 17, 201115 yr Thanks for the reply , are you saying that i have to overclocked the chip, and 3.4 is not enough, wow. never thought id have to do that for this chip i thought was powerful enough as it is.Well i guess im in the overclocking busness now with FSX.I will give it a try and thanks..............................................................Robert
April 17, 201115 yr Greetings Bro. GaryGreat find. I was pretty disappointed to see the Windows drive score still at 5.9 so I'll give this a try...it should speed things up a bit. I've got a 1500 Watt Battery backup connected to this rig so it should be good to go.Mike I still only get 5.9 on W7, I think you need SSD's to get pat that. I think I even heard the SSD guys (perhaps somebody could confirm) having a hard time getting over 5.9. However with the exception of access time two 2nd-generation Vraps on FSX on that Controller card will beat most SSD's on the market on transfer rates. Regards,Gary Andersen HAF932 Advanced, ASUS Z690-P D4, i5-12600k @4.9,NH-C14S, 2x8GB DDR4 3600, RM850x PSU,Sata DVD, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB storage, W10-Pro on Intel 750 AIC 800GB PCI-Express,MSI RTX3070 LHR 8GB, AW2720HF, VS238, Card Reader, SMT750 UPS.
April 18, 201115 yr Well...finally, one good turn deserves another. After almost 5 years of FSX beating up on every processor released by both Intel and AMD, I can confirm that the magical i7 2600k slaps FSX around like a Catholic school boy. But before you read any further, its takes a bigger beast to tame the big FSX beast so in essence the mythical all sliders right is indeed "throwing money at the problem".Well, it must be so, cuz my lowly X9650 machine makes the sim almost perfect, at least to the point an upgrade still is not critical in any way. It's always smooth, excellent IQ and texture update rate, etc. The limited power means the severest of conditions will translate into low enough frame rate to become troublesome, but this is as I say, for example PMDG 747 flying into JFK in weather, and then it's only a little iffy with frames as low at 18 at the very worst case, but it's at least not a stuttering 18. The rest of the time is pretty much locked at the external limiters rate of 30 despite whatever aircraft and FTX scenery I throw at it, and qualifies as liquid smooth. So it's highly, highly believable that this mega beast you own should very easily cover any weaknesses in this machine. The raw processing must be in the neighborhood of at least double eh? I run my CPU around 3.88Ghz, mem at 1625.Let us know if you can bring it down with any combination of addons. I do keep autogen at DENSE, however every other parameter is set hard right, including all weather settings. Oops, traffic is down at 10 or so. Load that baby up with all the addons, traffic at 100%, etc, and BLOOM of course, and let's see how she does. That might tempt me into an upgrade, if it can handle all of that and not skip a beat. Sure as heck should if it's truly a doubling of thruput over my rig. I often fly with BLOOM on and maintain frames on the ground at 25 or more, then locked at 30 when up in the air.Noel Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
April 18, 201115 yr Bloom is horrible, I've never used it.But I run RealAir Duke, FSDreamteam JFK, very dense autogen @ LOD 8.5 (edited in the cfg), weather with multiple layers (FEX textures 1024 because they look more realistic than 4096), 8xSQ AA, 16x AF all at 1920x1080 res. 30 fps locked.If I add 50% default AI traffic I get about 28. Only when I add cars does the fps really plummit lol. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
April 18, 201115 yr Build recently a SB2600K with 8Gb ram and the new MSI GTX580 Lightning and have all the heavy stuff installed en used Bojotes .cfg tweaks and never come under 30 fps even when flying online on VATSIM and in 3D Vision.I'll put in the external FPS limiter and inside FSX unlimited and forget the long loved Nhancer but use Nvidia Inspector now (When you have Nvidia ofcourse)OC gives me only a few fps extra and don't need it anymore so yes, SB 2600K and a proper GPU is doing the FSX job right now... The only show stoppers are still Bloom and Ground shadows but can live without them.Tweaking times are over now and time to go flying and forget the fps issues when you have the money to rebuild your hardware (SB is very cheap by the way)Happy landings...
April 19, 201115 yr Well...finally, one good turn deserves another. After almost 5 years of FSX beating up on every processor released by both Intel and AMD, I can confirm that the magical i7 2600k slaps FSX around like a Catholic school boy. But before you read any further, its takes a bigger beast to tame the big FSX beast so in essence the mythical all sliders right is indeed "throwing money at the problem".The specs.i7 2600k @ 4.8Ghz (easy 24x7 Overclock) (Initial testing is stable at 5.1Ghz for a FSX only overclock - havent tested FSX at this speed yet)8 GB Corsair Vengence DDR3-1600 (8-8-8-24-1T @ ~1800Mhz OC)ATI OEM HD6990 (Stock speed)Asrock Fatal1ty P67 Rev.3 MoboCosair H70 Liquid cooling (Temps 29 degrees idle and ~50 degrees at 5.1Ghz under full load)Creative Fatal1ty sound card2x 1TB WD Black in RAID 0 @ 6GB(Operating System)2x WD Raptor 300Gb in RAID 0 @ 6GB(FSX Dedicated Drive)Tagan BZ 1100 Watt PSUThermaltake Level 10 GT Case. (2x 120mm fans sucking air in and top 120mm fan blowing air out. Radiator mounted in case with radiator fans sucking outside air in)The ResultOn a clean install, all sliders right, no FSX.cfg tweaks @ default Friday Island and real world weather in the trike = ~110 - 150 fpsSame scenario @ Seattle ~90 - 110 fpsThese initial tests show at least a 40 - 100 FPS increase over my old Core2 QX9650 running at 4.1Ghz. What this means is that there is HUGE overhead available for addons. As I start adding the heavy stuff even if I lost 50% frame rates with addons (which I doubt that would be the case) FSX would still be no less than 50-60 FPS everywhere in the world with all sliders right. Forget holy grail...Intel has delivered the Nirvana of performance with the 2600k and delivered it at an extremely modest price. For 600 less than the 980X you get the same performance and in some cases even better performance. This translates into a sexy FSX flying machine (emphasis on flying and not tweaking!) So yeah, for the price of a decent suit, you can give FSX its comeuppance. That said, what's it worth to never have to come back to the forums to try to find ways to tweak another 2 fps out of your system...and just fly? Priceless?Just built almost the same exact rig for FSX and couldnt be more pleased. You need to get dual cards and crossfire x them and add a couple SSD's to really unleash the beast lol.My rigi7 2600k @ 4.8Ghz 8 GB G.Skill X DDR3-1600 7-8-7-24-2T2x Sapphire Radeon HD6950 2GB (Shadders flashed to 6970) Crossfire XGigabyte GA-P67A-UD7-B3 rev 1Cosair H70 Liquid cooling (Modded with shrouds)2x 1TB Samsung F3 Raid 0 Intel P67 Controller2x 64GB C300 SSD's @ 6GB SATA 3 Intel P67 ControllerUltra X 1050 PSUCooler Master HAF 932 caseWindows Experience 7.9 in all categories.Pagefile, prefetch and superfetch shut off. IE_Cache and temp directories moved to the HDD's. OS on the SSD's Smooth as silk. Scored 903 on the benchmark for the SSD's R/W. Out of town at the moment...dying to get home to run the FSX Benchmark. Freeware developer Pompeii, Italy and Mount Vesuvius (pompeii_italy.zip) and A380 Flight plans (ai_a380_flightplans_redux.zip).
April 19, 201115 yr In my impatience I got the Fatal1ty P67 after reading the reviews - its my first non-ASUS system in 10 years so I may just plop it in when it comes back and benchmark it against the Asrock...the winner gets to stay and the loser gets a trip to ebay.I think Asus is the parent company of ASRock so technically I'd still consider it an Asus. Co-founder of Asus has a major role with ASRock. :Big Grin: I have reservations about getting anything other than Asus. The quality and warranties are great. I considered getting the board you have but ASRock's warranty is not as good as the 5 years with my Asus and I read several places that said you deal with the retailer not ASRock for service. Chuck Biggins
April 19, 201115 yr Bloom is horrible, I've never used it.But I run RealAir Duke, FSDreamteam JFK, very dense autogen @ LOD 8.5 (edited in the cfg), weather with multiple layers (FEX textures 1024 because they look more realistic than 4096), 8xSQ AA, 16x AF all at 1920x1080 res. 30 fps locked.If I add 50% default AI traffic I get about 28. Only when I add cars does the fps really plummit lol.What a different opinion we have on Bloom. I find it's strikingly beautiful to look at, just a bit hard on processing demand. I'd def use it always if my machine could handle it. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
April 20, 201115 yr What a different opinion we have on Bloom. I find it's strikingly beautiful to look at, just a bit hard on processing demand. I'd def use it always if my machine could handle it.I just find it horribly unrealistic, that's all. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
April 22, 201115 yr Mike: Stephen: Hi good posts: I jumped on the bandwagon with the 2600K yesterday, and am in the process of overclocking (who'd of thunk it?) Tell me - are you guys running Turbo and Speedstepping enabled? How do you get it to run at a solid frequency - like 4.5 gig. OR - it doesn't matter?? i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
April 24, 201115 yr Mike: Stephen: Hi good posts: I jumped on the bandwagon with the 2600K yesterday, and am in the process of overclocking (who'd of thunk it?) Tell me - are you guys running Turbo and Speedstepping enabled? How do you get it to run at a solid frequency - like 4.5 gig. OR - it doesn't matter??"Bump" - Anyone? I have figured the solid 4.5 gig part, but are you guys running it with SS and Turbo, or locking at 4.x/5.x?Thanks. i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
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