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Navdata out of date

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So have real life pilots ever seen this message and if so, what then?John

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Pilots probably get it all the time. I'd assume Next time it's in for maintenance the engineers would install the new database

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PMDG FMC NavData out of date message fix HERE

HELLO,mine says navdata out of date from LSZH, i am pretty new to this how can i update? and does this mean i cant fly from LSZH untill i do?.thanksjames.

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james west.

You can fly with out-of-date navdata as long as you wish. That is just notification, ignore it. I think irl, they have multiple airacs installed, and they can quickly select new one.

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The real 737NG FMC gives that message when the database is expired - it's not some plot to make you buy the updates... cmon guys.
It's a legal requirement in real-life to fly IFR with up-to-date navdata only, hence the FMC warning. I remember a story about a small, now defunct ultra-low cost airline here in Europe which for cost reasons decided to ignore AIRAC cycles. Controllers were reported to go hog-wild over this airline because their pilots weren't able to fly the procedures they were given due to the outdated material they had at hands.The pilots themselves allegedly begged the controllers to finally bring a charge against the airline. That was a really dangerous thing for the pretty dense air traffic over Europe.

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hello i delete the navdata out of date message and go to load the flight plan LSZH-LSGG and it says invalid entry? james

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james west.

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Haha straight in the deep end then eh :)
Thanks to AOA....I have no problems with that. Been flying the NGX since release without errors. Not that I understand everything the plane has to offer, but I can program the FMC and fly the plane from location to location. Deeper knowledge of this plane will come, when the video training finally gets released.
hello i delete the navdata out of date message and go to load the flight plan LSZH-LSGG and it says invalid entry? james
Did you spell the filename correctly? Also did you put the filename in the right field in the CDU?

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hello i delete the navdata out of date message and go to load the flight plan LSZH-LSGG and it says invalid entry? james
hi just a question did you put lszh in your origin airport and lsgg in the destination press the execute key it shouldnt give you a invalid entry, when you load your flight plan in the co route part dont put the dash in between the lszh and lsgg, should be like this lszhlsgg depending on the route planner you are using

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Peter kelberg

It's not allowed to operate "commecially" with a NAVDATA BASE out of data, but most operaters have two navdata bases intalled in the FMC so that they only load a new nadata base one time in two months. On the Real A/C the IDENT page of the FMC shows two navdata base's there is a ACTIVE and INACTIVE navdata base. It's also a handy tool when there is played around in the FMC pre-flight pages like entering a flight plan, just swop the nadata base's and all page are cleared. But that is not simulate on the NGX.

Mark Scheerman

 

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I also experience the same thing - FMC telling me the database is out of date. I was wondering how the NGX 'knows' about it... hehehe... (I have Navigraph database 1108)

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For those who are on 1108 and don't want to update etc. Go to FSX root\PMDG\NavData. Open FMC_Ident.txt. Replace entire contents with this:

[ident]NavData=AIRAC-1108OpProgram=JUL28DEC31/11CoData=EAG-1108

That will last till end of 2011. On Jan 1st 2012 you will get the message again. I haven't tested this but it should work. You're tricking the FMC into thinking that December 31st 2011 is when that navigraph expires. It might work. Try it out and see. Backup first in case it doesnt.

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PMDG FMC NavData out of date message fix HERE

hello i tried again and it loaded into the co route,thats what i done before but from a different runway and it would not work?,thanks for your help..james.

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ORBX x8.HORIZON SCEENERY.UK2000 AIRPORTS x4.plus MEGA AIRPORT (heathrow).IRISx4.TSS Sounds x5.Oovee sound x1

C H PRODUCTS.(YOKE). MICROSOFT SIDWINDER PRO.

FSX ACCELERATION AND 2004.also REX 2.0 + overdrive for FSX.EZDOK 1.17. ENB plus MOGWAISOFT-SHADE MEGASCEENERY X3

 

james west.

Folks you asked for an authentic replica and that is what you got. PMDG gave you the real deal. I have some other high fidelity sims and they all do the same thing with the FMC. It is just as the real aircraft, the engineers or pilots have to install updated navdata monthly or the FMC is going to give them the message; NAVDATA BASE out of date.

Joe Porter

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For those who are on 1108 and don't want to update etc. Go to FSX root\PMDG\NavData. Open FMC_Ident.txt. Replace entire contents with this:
[ident]NavData=AIRAC-1108OpProgram=JUL28DEC31/11CoData=EAG-1108

That will last till end of 2011. On Jan 1st 2012 you will get the message again. I haven't tested this but it should work. You're tricking the FMC into thinking that December 31st 2011 is when that navigraph expires. It might work. Try it out and see. Backup first in case it doesnt.

Nice tweak! I WILL definitely try this...

Roy Joven T. Benzonan

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Add-ons: Radar Contact V4, Activesky Evolution, FDC Live Cockpit

Flight Planning: FSBuild2, Navigraph nDAC3

Aircrafts: PMDG NGX/747-8i, LDS 767, CS C130

 

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Folks you asked for an authentic replica and that is what you got. PMDG gave you the real deal. I have some other high fidelity sims and they all do the same thing with the FMC. It is just as the real aircraft, the engineers or pilots have to install updated navdata monthly or the FMC is going to give them the message; NAVDATA BASE out of date.
Except in real life, the pilots don't have to pay for updates. Thank you for the tip, NGX. I'll give that a try.

Chris Hicks

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