Its not about how you set it up! I dont agree.I purchased NGX and ran it on Vista 32 bit with very few problems except the occasional out of memory when using ORBX or the like.I decided to upgrade being a fanatic to Windows 7 64 bit wanting the system to utilize the extra RAM. Thats when the nonsense started and it would CTD every time. I tried for 7 days to get it to work after reinstaling FSX and NGX no less than 10 times. I used different hard drives,deleted DLLS etc etc following everybodies great advice. Everything I tried did not work. All the other PMDG products ran fine except NGX. This means that NGX is very particular and fussy and it cant just be a set up issue but something more intricate. The 7th day I decided after much frustration to give up after nights of trying until the early hours, something happened. I had formated my hard drives,even reinstalled Windows 7 to no avail .I decided to load a shooter game to kill people out of pure frustration as I wanted to fly what I had already tasted.I loaded DEUS EX which uses STEAM CLIENT to activate it and store on a type of cloud system. I loaded steam and activated the shooter but decided to try NGX as a last ditch effort when it started WORKING!Why? was it because of the steam activation or download ? I dont know ,but it worked straight after that. So its not a simple answer but some little intricate setting which will get the NGX to work in some cases.I believe you must scan the forums as there are great people out there willing to assist in every way. I also sent a ticket and Ryan and PMDG sent a link for you to interact with them on a live basis to help you. So I believe in the team at PMDG that they want this product to be the best add on ever to grace the sim community, and its almost there.They do stand by their product and if a person asks for assistance it comes thick and fast as there are many PC boffins out there. It runs like a dream 99% of the time with the odd freeze, but very minimaly for me. I dont experience any OOM,s with 64 bit and no CTD'S. My framerates average over 45 under heavy pressure and all sliders are max.If you persist with assistance it will work!

Its not about how you set it up! I dont agree.I purchased NGX and ran it on Vista 32 bit with very few problems except the occasional out of memory when using ORBX or the like. I decided to upgrade being a fanatic to Windows 7 64 bit wanting the system to utilize the extra RAM. Thats when the nonsense started and it would CTD every time. I tried for 5 days to get it to work after reinstaling FSX and NGX no less than 10 times. I used different hard drives,deleted DLLS etc etc following everybodies great advice. Everything I tried did not work. All the other PMDG products ran fien except NGX. This means that NGX is very particular and fussy and it cant just be a computer issue. The day I decided after much frustration to give up after nights of trying until the early hours something happened. I had formated my hard drives,

Did you disable uac and virus software while installing, put fsx somehwere other than program files (x86) and run all the installers as admin?

No, absolutely nothing. I originaly loaded on drive E then F then G ,then C and so on. I have 3 internal hard drives and one external. On Vista I had it on the external drive. I purchased a new drive which had a fresh install of Windows 7 put on and removed Vista completely. I cleaned and formated all. So it was exactly like a brand new PC.

This is why they are realising a service pack, I`m sure it will all be sorted......but there has been a lot of problems with CTD`s

HiDoes anyone know when SP1 will be published friends? Now I'm tired of struggling with problems.

Does anyone know when SP1 will be published friends?

No

I decided to load a shooter game to kill people out of pure frustration as I wanted to fly what I had already tasted. I loaded DEUS EX which uses STEAM CLIENT to activate it and store on a type of cloud system. I loaded steam and activated the shooter but decided to try NGX as a last ditch effort when it started WORKING! Why? was it because of the steam activation or download ? I dont know ,but it worked straight after that. So its not a simple answer but some little intricate setting which will get the NGX to work in some cases.

Interesting -- I wonder what DEUS EX installed on your computer that "helped" the 737NGX to run better. Both are meant to make sure you have DirectX 9.0c installed, so it's probably not Direct XMaybe a particular version of a C++ Runtime Library.- I know I had to manually uninstall, and then re-install some C++ runtime libraries, to get the 737NG to run in a stable manner on my system.

That is the second report I've seen on the forums that installing Steam caused FSX to behave properly when flying the NGX. There's some incidental install/update happening with it, maybe a C++ runtime, maybe something to do with dx9, I dunno. Worth looking into as a workaround at any rate. Maybe installing Steam can be used as an inadvertent fix for some people.

That's interesting. I'm one of lucky ones with almost no issues and yes, I have Steam installed. I wonder.........?

Well this is interesting to read , i also join the club of no CTD or any problems at all since release date and yes i also had steam on my main PC .....

haven't had any issues. Love this plane. All I fly anymore. :)

That is the second report I've seen on the forums that installing Steam caused FSX to behave properly when flying the NGX. There's some incidental install/update happening with it, maybe a C++ runtime, maybe something to do with dx9, I dunno. Worth looking into as a workaround at any rate. Maybe installing Steam can be used as an inadvertent fix for some people.

Since it does not look I'll be installing SP1 tonight, , I took the time to install STEAM, and monitor EXACTLY WHAT IT INSTALLED. (ProcMon) Unfortunatly, it did not install anything that would seem to affect FSX,No Direct X updates, no C++ libraries, no .NET stuff. I am one of the lucky ones who is NOT having any Runtime issues with FSX or the 737, so maybe STEAM did not need to install anything. However, the STEAM installer also did not CHECK anything that would be associated with FSX, so maybe the theory that installing STEAM will fix FSX, is just wishfull thinking, and concidence.

I don't have steam, and i have no problems with the NGX.

I got steam as well with no problems at all

The only STEAM I have is what comes off the CPU