December 2, 201114 yr Hi,I've had the CS 757 for 2 1/2 years now, and as my first payware airliner, a little bias to the bird. IMO, 4.6 is the CS 757 in all of its glory.When I first found out Quality Wings made one, I was shocked, how could a small(er) developer dare challenge the Captain?! I refused to buy it out of stubborness. Anyway, I've begun to start looking at the QW 757 again, and realize it really sounds like a better deal...My question(s) is, how 'lite' is the QW compared to Captain Sim, whats left out? I've heard that QW is better on the frames, and not questioning that, also, for those who have both installed, how do they compare?Thanks for any insight,
December 2, 201114 yr I have both and could fill paragraphs with info on both, but the Readers Digest version is....my CS 757 hasn't left the hanger since I got the QW.Unless you are one that HAS to run every checklist, push every button, throw every switch, the QW will amaze you. The 'lite' part is simply that some systems are already running, no need to mess with them.To get a full idea, go to their website and download the manual, it will tell you all you need to know. Jay
December 2, 201114 yr I own both aswell. I can't exactly tell you to minute detail the differences, but I can tell you this;Ever since purchasing the CS75' I've had a love-hate relationship with here. Even with SP6, the love-hate continues to exist.With the QW75' (I consider myself to be one of the lauch customers having bought it in the first hours after release), there's nothing but love.If I want minute indepth simulated systems, I take my PMDG NGX out of the hangar. If I want a relaxed, but still extremely satisfying flight, I take the QW757.The included soundset alone is worth the money. The level of reality of the howl of the engines spooling up is unmatched by any FS aircraft.Buy it. You won't be dissapointed. Regards, Frank van der Werff
December 2, 201114 yr I have both. CS is not good with frames but slightly more realistic with systems. QW is very FSP friendly, has great sounds and visuals, but needs more systems realism.Level-D is working on a 757, which will probably blow CS and QW in terms of systems.I also just bought the NGX, so I have not gone back to any other aircraft because PMDG has set such a high standard, but that's another story...Luis Linares LUIS LINARES Processor: Intel Core i9 6700K 9900K (5.0 GHz Turbo) Eight Core; CPU Cooling: NXXT Kraken X62 280mm CPU Liquid Cooler; System Memory: 64GB Corsair DDR4 SDRAM @ 3200 MHz, RGB; Graphics Processor: 11GB Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, GDDR6, Primary Drive: 2TB Samsung 850 Pro Solid State Drive (SSD)
December 2, 201114 yr This question has been asked many times and the answer remains the same. The CS757 still has more detailed systems. I for one don't like that the QW757 flips the fuel cut-off switches on engine start for you. I feel that too much has bene taken off my hands, including things that I really want to do myself. Also the FMS is pretty basic, requiring you to hardly fill in anything. It's in this regards that I think the CS757 is better. You simply have more control over the systems. By the way, just to be clear: what's in the QW757 works well, although I have been having issues with the A/T. But, Ernie, the QW757 gauge developer indentified what might be the problem and is working on it.On the other hand, the CS757 VC seems inaccurate to me. It sure is detailed, but it's not accurate. The displays are almost square, while they should be broader. The QW757 manages to do this a lot better, although I'm not sure which of the two ahs the better exterior model. The sounds of the QW757 probably are better however,The QW757 does come with a wide range of models, also featuring retrofit cockpits, which I think is a very nice extension to the product which no other developer offers.In the end, I like the feel of the QW757 a lot more. However, it's the QW757's systems that push me back to the CS757: I simply want more control than the QW757 is giving me. Benjamin van Soldt Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case
December 2, 201114 yr Author I for one don't like that the QW757 flips the fuel cut-off switches on engine start for you. Also the FMS is pretty basic, requiring you to hardly fill in anything. Hi,Regarding the fuel cut-off switches, you can still manually start start ignition, right? And as for the FMS, you still have full LNAV and VNAV simulation, correct?
December 2, 201114 yr Hi,Regarding the fuel cut-off switches, you can still manually start start ignition, right? And as for the FMS, you still have full LNAV and VNAV simulation, correct?You can start the engine start process yourself, yes. For this to happen you do have to set the pack, electrical, hydraulic and ignition switches correctly. Regarding LNAV and VNAV, it seems to me that it's fully simulated. Just don't expect to be able to manually enter in weights and that kind fo stuff.By the way, one huge plus the QW757 is that it saves panel states. The CS757 doesn't do this for all I know. Benjamin van Soldt Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case
December 2, 201114 yr Author You can start the engine start process yourself, yes. For this to happen you do have to set the pack, electrical, hydraulic and ignition switches correctly. Regarding LNAV and VNAV, it seems to me that it's fully simulated. Just don't expect to be able to manually enter in weights and that kind fo stuff.By the way, one huge plus the QW757 is that it saves panel states. The CS757 doesn't do this for all I know.Regarding the weights, I can still put in V-speeds, right? those aren't just one speed that never changes, that would be a bummer if I couldn't...
December 2, 201114 yr I am pleased with having the retro panel. I am still not sure why CS never provided it. The only true issue I have ever had with QW 757s is that whenever I add repaints, something would always cause main landing gear to vanish and for flaps to become fully extended and nose wheel in full turn to one direction. Additionally, I never figured out why the gauges would become disfunctional when creating repaint modifications. Otherwise, I am satisfied with the sound packs for the most part. Keith Guillory
December 3, 201114 yr Regarding the weights, I can still put in V-speeds, right? those aren't just one speed that never changes, that would be a bummer if I couldn't...V speeds are computed depending on your flap setting, weight, etc which is normal. Jay
December 3, 201114 yr Author V speeds are computed depending on your flap setting, weight, etc which is normal.Yeah, I know that, I'm was just saying that I hoped it wasn't a single speed, which you say it isn't, so thank you.
December 3, 201114 yr Yeah, I know that, I'm was just saying that I hoped it wasn't a single speed, which you say it isn't, so thank you.Did you get the manual off their site? It will give you al the info you are looking for. Jay
December 3, 201114 yr Hi,Regarding the fuel cut-off switches, you can still manually start start ignition, right? And as for the FMS, you still have full LNAV and VNAV simulation, correct? LNAV/VNAV works pretty well (but don't know if EVERY detail is simulated here). Only glitch found in VNAV and CI greater than ~15-20 will give You overspeed on climbs at every climb-stage provided by default ATC (next FL clearance 200-300ft below currently cleared level), but You can use FLCH or manually control the speed for a second or two.Fuel can be also provided manually in startup. I do this via FSUIPC lever for props mixture lever: full up, full down and voila. QW will not flip the switch for You. I believe You will be able to do it via keyboard (Ctrl + Shift F4/F1 as far as I know) Bartłomiej Ender
December 3, 201114 yr LNAV/VNAV works pretty well (but don't know if EVERY detail is simulated here). Only glitch found in VNAV and CI greater than ~15-20 will give You overspeed on climbs at every climb-stage provided by default ATC (next FL clearance 200-300ft below currently cleared level), but You can use FLCH or manually control the speed for a second or two.That's exactly the thing I worked on with Ernie, the QW757 gauge programmer. He will provide a fix for it, most probably. ETA not known though. Benjamin van Soldt Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case
December 3, 201114 yr That's exactly the thing I worked on with Ernie, the QW757 gauge programmer. He will provide a fix for it, most probably. ETA not known though.Weird, I use a CI of 80 and never have an overspeed. Jay
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