Why does one pay a monthly fee for something to tweak when they have a almost free one already?

Why does one pay a monthly fee for something to tweak when they have a almost free one already?

Simple.The monthly fee version = stableThe almost free one = unstable

unable to get paid for it.

A very sad but a realistic realization.. :(

Thank heavens for some sane words. Guys suck it and see, and at $10 a month, I simply give up on two cups of coffee. If it goes nowhere then I am comforted in a perverse way knowing that I have wasted a lot more money on low quality add-ons for MS - and some of them have come from major developers (Neither they nor there products will be named but I am ready to). I am going with the flow and enjoying the development of P3D as it happens, If after that it falls into a heap, or becomes a highly specialised commercial application, then I move to something else. As yet I most certainly haven't moved from FSX, the investment is too great and my setup too good. But it is clunky and the internal workings have no way of ever being updated except through P3D.As a result, even though I am already retired, I don't have enough time in the day to use all the flightsims, Shipsims and Railsims that I have. Tom I suspect will be re-hired on contract the day after he retires..

Hmmm...Pay $10 a month for being a P3D "Beta Tester"?You all know that this is actually all that you are?Simmers are nice people, but utterly naive...

No, not naive, just people with eyes wide open who assess a situation and make a choice that suits there interests and their pockets. After all I have no idea what you spend your discretionary funds on so I can't judge whether you are completely sophisticated in the choices that you make. For me it is my choice to spend up to $120, and if it falls in a heap, my expenditure has been manageable, enjoyable and no great loss. My choice - rational for me.

Hmmm...Pay $10 a month for being a P3D "Beta Tester"?You all know that this is actually all that you are?Simmers are nice people, but utterly naive...

$10 = Pocket change...

$10 = Pocket change...

Perhaps for you it is. Over 6 yrs thats $720.00 That does not represent a majority when you have 8 mouths to feed. Thats alot of food on the table, book rentals, tanks of gas, utility bills paid, college tutition.........For a 1%, pocket change!

Edited February 10, 201214 yr by Barnstormer1

Agree quite much. For me 7€ is not pocket change too. It's not much, that I'll agree, but it's 7€ too much for testing... the fact is that P3D is currently in the development stage, with bugs. Not only the ones caused externally, but also internally.

Friends we all have to make choices. Mine is this. I will pay the $10 a month for one year only, or until v2.0 comes out. Then I will assess the situation again, and decide whether I buy a longer time period, or buy it outright.At various times of our lives we have different commitments and priorities. I honour that. So it is entirely up to you to do what you think best in your own circumstances. Word Not Allowed is correct, P3D has many bugs including the crash on exit and the automatic restart which I find increasingly irritating - therefore I will bide my time. But this is all my programme and suits me, you must do as you thnk best.Also my FSX is running superbly, on its own HDD and with full seasonality and overall better scenery UTX, GEX and FTX, I continue to fly FSX for hard core simming tasks and great countryside. P3D allows me to go back to the early days of FSX and test and experiment - help keeps the brain alive.Now freemium FLIGHT is on the way. It all seems wrong to me, but I am willing to bet with MS canny marketing it might just surprise us, but the mini-transactions make me think I may be spending more per month than I do on P3D.Barnstormer, you are on a tight budget so forget P3D, enjoy what you have and in a crowded house, enjoy your escape into FSX. And Word Not Allowed I wish I could afford a rig like yours. Way beyond my pocket.

So let's try this:FSX is our simulator of choice because we have sweated for 5 years to make it work. From day one it was a huge but under-developed step-up. And believe me, Mr MS it is we consumers who have hung in, and spent thousands of dollars each, to keep your product alive. While a few brilliant computer types in various forums did the hard yards to allow us to set up our computers and games adequatelyNew hardware has been the key for this CPU bound game, and brilliant add-on designers have now created highly sophisticated scenery and aircraft that run as independently as possible from the base FSX engine, but in the end are still reliant on this 32bit, barely threaded, memory intensive game with the same inherent limitations we have faced from the release of the first and last SP. I would, and I hope will go up to the Ivybridge chips when they are affordable but for the time being FSX runs pretty well for me, but believe me there are very few sliders all the way to the right.Is it possible to persuade MS to incorporate the P3D upgrades to the basic code into the FSX product - and leave out unnnecessary bits (to simmers) like bathymetry. Yes it would cost, but it would mean that MS/LM could continue to sell FSX at full price while marketing FLIGHT as a simple game-playing option to the less committed but some of whom would be expected to migrate to the new shiny smooth running blaster of a sim, naturall the product would be for entertainment, and LM would continue with improving their commercial simulation - free of the constraints of a boisterous and noisy flight simulation community. And free of the EULA threats and warnings running around the community at the moment. ###### and fanatics for particular products could now stop being bush lawyers and peace would reign, at least for a few days.Win-win, too easy! That'll be the reason for it being too hard.

Whatever, it´s your money..But I guarantee that you´ll be discarded by LM when they don´t need your +25 years Sim user knowledge anymore, and then the much debated EULA will be enforced to the letter!

Hi,The flight sim community has been abandoned/discarded (as you say) time and time again, just like what Microsoft did to us when they abandoned an incomplete / bug filled FSX, and yet again with MS flight. I will ride the P3D wave just as long as I can, just as I rode the FS franchise since the days of Bruce Artwick. I am under no delusions that I'll have P3D forever (or any other flight sim platform), I know full well that this sim could be here today and gone tomorrow. Then again, I may be the one to dump P3D if and/or when my needs change. Until then, $10.00 a month is more than reasonable given my financial situation and P3D's ability to give me hours of studder free enjoyment.For those that are unable to spend $10.00 a month on P3D, there are other platform options available to you.

Whatever, it´s your money..But I guarantee that you´ll be discarded by LM when they don´t need your +25 years Sim user knowledge anymore, and then the much debated EULA will be enforced to the letter!

Edited February 11, 201214 yr by Mike_CFII_MEL

Mike: +1Like you have been spending money on flight sims since the Artwig original. Plus Jane's Fighting aircraft (what a great sim) and many others. Then with all the MS variants through to FSX. I count the prior versions as money well-spent but money gone. In each case I gave all of my bought add-ons and the root game to others and felt great for having done so. Money wasted? Money well-spent? Who cares.I will buy FLIGHT as well and give it a run. Who knows? It may have more potential than I think at the moment. If it doesn't so that was my choice! And if the doomsayers are right and P3D bombs out, then so be it. My risk again.If MS and LM could come to a commercial arrangement to have a merge into an entertainment product then they would have a huge winner - and somewhere for the percentage who get hooked on FLIGHTand flight simming to move to, and we addicts to stay with - rather than have them and us shift to another platform. Both publishers and developers could get a small but steady cash-flow from this source for ever, or as long as it kept being updated. Web-delivery of course shoves half of the distrubition costs onto the user so that's smart too.

Let me add, the killer has really been the updates to the basic Windows operating system. How many times have you dredged through the sales tables at Games stores, discover a cheap title then find it is so old that it runs on a legacy system few of us have. Old OS are no longer supported back beyond XP - and think how many of these we have paid for and 'wasted'. Simming requires the most efficient compatible OS that exists. (Why did I waste money on Vista, stupid me?)