Skip to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

The AVSIM Community

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

What's with the ER, BBJ,…?

Featured Replies

Hi guys, hadn't PMDG told that other 737 variants will be released like an -ER or the BBJ. I wonder whether is still in developement cause I haven't heared anything about that for quite a time now. Has someone more information about this?!

Best regards, Steffen

vrs_supporter_zpsiwiqesbo.png

Fight time: NGX 737-700: 37,0h; -800: 47,2h

  • Replies 33
  • Views 8.8k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Commercial Member

I have not read the posting regarding this lately, but I think these are to follow soon after the SDK is released.

KROSWYND    a.k.a KILO_WHISKEY
Majestic Software Development/Support
Banner_MJC8.png

Sys 1:  AMD 7950X3D, NOCTUA D15S, Gigabyte Elite B650, MSI 4090, 64Gb Ram, Corsair 850 Power Supply, 2x2TB M.2 Samsung 980s, 1x4TB WDD M.2, 6xNoctua 120mm case fans, LG C2 55" OLED running at 120Hz for the monitor, Win11. Sys 2:  i7 8700k, MSI GAMING MBoard, 32Gigs RAM, MSI 4070Ti & EVGA 1080Ti. Hardware:  Brunner CLS-E-NG Yoke, Fulcrum One yoke, TM TPR Rudder Pedals, Yoko TQ6+ NEO, StreamDeck, Tobii Eye Tracker, Virpil VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base with a TM grip
SIMULATORS: MSFS2020/XP12/P3D v5.4 & v6:  YouTube Videos

I hope so! Can't wait for the BBJ!

Meh.What's the difference between the BBJ "package" (or so to speak) and a repaint for the -800?

Edited by linux731

i7-6700K @ 4.5 GHz, 16 GB DDR4-2400 MHz, GTX 1070 8GB

Meh.What's the difference between the BBJ "package" (or so to speak) and a repaint for the -800?
There are 3 BBJ variants, each based on a normal 737 with several modifications. The biggest of these is the aux tanks in the baggage hold, giving a lot more range. For example, I've seen a BBJ2 (-800) do KLAS-EGSS. Also the interior is completed by a different company to the owner's specifications, and they are quite luxurious inside. Also, things like HUGS and EFB were available on the BBJ before it was available on airline 737s due to FAA certification differences for airline equipment.BBJ1: 737-700 body (with -800's wings) BBJ2: 737-800 (with only 1 pair of overwing exits)BBJ3: 737-900 (I have never actually seen one, but they exist)Boeing also offers the 747-8 and 777 in VIP configurations through the BBJ division, but these are not called BBJs..

Steve Caffey

These are the ones I am waiting for. Hopefully soon!

Ken Ehlers
F70

Boeing777_Banner_Pilot.jpg

Meh.What's the difference between the BBJ "package" (or so to speak) and a repaint for the -800?
Much increased range which accounts for more fuel tanks and hence a different fuel management system. Just to name one.

Dave P. Woycek

I hope BBJ / ER package will be released with SDK or SP1C like already announced once before.Gr,Senad

They will be released when they are ready and the will be ready when they are ready.

rs.png Vladimir Levkov / Владимир Левков

Two miles of road can take you two miles.Two miles of runway can take you anywhere in the world

  • Author

All right, thanks guys. I'm looking forward to the -ER variants for a bit of cross country flights.

Best regards, Steffen

vrs_supporter_zpsiwiqesbo.png

Fight time: NGX 737-700: 37,0h; -800: 47,2h

Reading is difficult...

(Please note: If I fail to cover any specific topic that is of interest to you in this update- it means there is no new information since the last time I mentioned that topic... :( )

Lukas "TIN TIN -=9th Shrek=-" Mathijsen

There are 3 BBJ variants, each based on a normal 737 with several modifications. The biggest of these is the aux tanks in the baggage hold, giving a lot more range. For example, I've seen a BBJ2 (-800) do KLAS-EGSS. Also the interior is completed by a different company to the owner's specifications, and they are quite luxurious inside. Also, things like HUGS and EFB were available on the BBJ before it was available on airline 737s due to FAA certification differences for airline equipment.BBJ1: 737-700 body (with -800's wings) BBJ2: 737-800 (with only 1 pair of overwing exits)BBJ3: 737-900 (I have never actually seen one, but they exist)Boeing also offers the 747-8 and 777 in VIP configurations through the BBJ division, but these are not called BBJs..
I don't see how the interior matters in FSX...

i7-6700K @ 4.5 GHz, 16 GB DDR4-2400 MHz, GTX 1070 8GB

  • Author
I don't see how the interior matters in FSX...
But I think the different weights will matter.

Best regards, Steffen

vrs_supporter_zpsiwiqesbo.png

Fight time: NGX 737-700: 37,0h; -800: 47,2h

The interior won't matter in FSX. But weights will. The BBJ1 (and 737-700ER) has a max takeoff weight of 171,000 lbs. Also, BBJs weigh a lot more, empty, than normal 737s. I know of a couple BBJs (BBJ1s / -700 airframe) that weigh around 102,500 lbs without payload and fuel. Compare that to a normal 737-700 OEW of 84,000 to 89,000 lbs and MTOW of 154,500 lbs.(Truth be told... except for MTOW and Max Fuel, all the weights can be simulated in the current 737-700 by just loading the thing to achieve a desired ZFW. For example, if my "simulated" BBJ weighs 102,500 lbs and I'm pretending to carry a full load of 18 pax at 200 lbs each, I'd try for a ZFW in the FMC of 106,100 lbs. ...and I'd use whatever pax counts and cargo figures I'd need to get there... I don't care that PMDG's load configuration page in the FMC says 58 pax, as long as I get a ZFW of 106,100 lbs.)-Tony

Edited by Lseatflyr

Tony Fiore

Create an account or sign in to comment

Account

Navigation

Search

Search

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.