Hi everybody ,There is a landing technique video document of PMDG or other pro`s ?i dont know why , i had alot of perfect landings and at the last two weeks all my landing is between -350 to -500 .... i think that is because i dont know why and how i am looking at the horizen at the landing and i think that in the good landing i looked at the PFD .In normal landing i am not on idle throttle until 50 GPWS calling , and on 20 i am starting to flare a bit .BTW 4-5 pitch of angle that is normal with the 737-800 ?And i would like to show you my first landing video ( from now i am telling you , all the bugs with spoilers , thrust reversers , ***Lights*** are because of the Default FS Replay ) :

some one have another tip except of FSRecorder ? that is not so good too ...Grts ,Maor .

Remember: About 500 fpm is the limit. Over 500 fpm will give you a broken landing gear, a blown tire og something else.My landings are in the range 50 - 300 fpm (negative of course).My only tip is to watch your v/s indicator. And make sure the fpm is above 500 fpm. :-)

Patrcik , are you sure **Above** 500fpm ?Thanks .

Great landing!

Between 0 and minus 500 fpm. I remember reading somewhere that optimal vertical landing speed is around -100fpm, if I'm not mistaken?Not giving enough pressure (eg. greased landings) could IRL cause more gear damage, due to sliding?

Yes above 500 fpm. Because -100 are a higher number than -500 eg.And yes the optimal fpm is between -50 and 200 fpm.But at 500 fpm the tires will blow.

-300 would be considered a hard landing. -150 or better would be considered a good landing and under -100 would be considered excellent.Also you can see all the animations of the NGX if you use FS-Recorder instead.

I dispute that under -100 would be deemed an excellent landing.Landing needs to be firm enough to activate the spoilers and auto brakes.Landing in the right spot and not overshooting is the priority.Ever heard of a "Boeing landing"? Characteristically firm.

i think that is because i dont know why and how i am looking at the horizen at the landing and i think that in the good landing i looked at the PFD .

That's the issue. You rely more on your instruments when you should be looking out the window to judge how much to flare your plane.Landing is a technique that is done on feel and practice, not with your eyes glued to an LCD screen.I land rw C172 light aircraft the same way, eyes out about 3/4 down the runway and feeling how the plane responds in response to the ground when I flare.It's harder in FSX because you can't actually feel the movement of the plane, but what you see outside is enough to get all your landings soft without relying on the PFD or the HGS.I actually hardly ever use the HGS in the NGX except in really bad visibility, then the runway outlines are super helpful so I have a reference on where to aim my plane at short final.

Between 0 and minus 500 fpm. I remember reading somewhere that optimal vertical landing speed is around -100fpm, if I'm not mistaken?Not giving enough pressure (eg. greased landings) could IRL cause more gear damage, due to sliding?

It will cause damage to a lot more than just the gear if you land with a very-low vertical speed and as a result start hydroplaning (not possible in FSX, but certainly a danger in real life) or don't trigger the auto-brakes or auto-spoilers. Also to get a 'greaser' you usually have to float down the runway quite a bit, which greatly increases your chances of running out of runway, especially if it's wet.As martin-w has said a landing with a rate above -100 fpm would not be considered excellent. -120 to -240 fpm is roughly the target I've usually seen.

Thank you. So that means my landings were usually correct, as I've always been around -150fpm. Here and there a -300 landing, but those are usually in hard weather :)

I land rw C172 light aircraft the same way, eyes out about 3/4 down the runway and feeling how the plane responds in response to the ground when I flare.

...and this, my friends, is the key. Thanks for posting that, AJ.The key to good landings is looking out the window. Your sight picture will tell you a lot more than the vertical speed indicator. The sight picture will affect your vertical speed, and if you practice enough, you'll find that if you review your landings (via FSRecorder, or use some tool to record the V/S at touch) your V/S at touchdown is actually very good.The window is where all the flying happens. Instruments are there for when it's necessary (and for backing up your sight picture), not for all the time.

The landing technique is basically to flare as late as you can and still touch down soft at around -100. With flaring late I don't mean giving a big sweep backwards on the yoke upon the last moment, but initiate the flare at exactly 25 feet, so that you will flare just above the runway, at around 3 feet or less. Move the throttle to idle at around 15 feet.

Hi MaorJust a thought. Why not try an autoland and note the flare and v/s on landing. That will give you an idea of the ball park figure for v/s etc.

Autolands aren't the most gentle technique. They usually plant the jet on the runway quite firmly.