March 10, 201214 yr I have everything installed and configured as suggested in the config. manager, but I have no idea what to do next.Previous FS2crews with the Start Centre, with the guide that came with them about how to use it were relatively straight forward but I have scoured the paperwork for a tutorial or guide for this one without success, so I have no clue what to do next.I am a bit frustrated as I have been looking forward to this.Am I missing the patently obvious and need a sharp talking to ( I think I have RTFM ) or can someone give me a clue?thanks,John
March 10, 201214 yr Commercial Member Hi John,Don't worry, I have RTFM moments all the time. I'm actually the worst when it comes to reading manuals.All you need to do is this:1. Go to the Manual. The link is in the Config Manager (that's the NGX Config Manager, not the old Start Centers).2. Select Button Control version.,3. Click the Button that says "Quick Start Guide".The button control version is very, very easy to use. Once you've setup your buttons, it's pretty straight forward as everything you need is written in text right on the FS2Crew panel.Cheers, B. York FS2Crew Web Site / FS2Crew Facebook Page / FS2Crew Discord
March 10, 201214 yr I have purchased all FS2Crew products for PMDG and I think this is the easiest one! There is no need for a tutorial! I took a look at the online manuals and captain's flow. But when you start the fs2crew panel from cold and dark everything goes smooth. Actually the panel says what to do next! Stratos Moschos
March 10, 201214 yr Thanks to you both for you reassurances but I still am none the wiser.I don't know when to press the main or secondary button, for example, or how to get the timer to appear in the right hand window.The Fs2Crew panel is just sitting on my screen and I haven't a clue what to do with its two windows and the two buttons.( The rest is pretty self explanatory)(I am a retired graduate engineer and teacher of engineering/technology so you will understand how frustrating this is, I seem to be having a complete mental block if it supposed to be as simple to follow as you say.)
March 10, 201214 yr I agree, there's not much information about when to press what button. A little quick tutorial, at least to get some kind of order of procedures would go a long way. At the moment I'm losing interest in this software fast.
March 10, 201214 yr Commercial Member Here's a very quick run down.The heart of the simulation is the "flows".Print out the flows section in the manual...They're central.1. Next, open the CFG panel.2. Press "Run PF events".3. Around Plus 10 minutes, run the Pre-Flight checklist by pressing the Main Button.4. At plus 0 minutes, run the Before Start Procedure.4. Then run the Before Start Checklist.It might seem strange at first, but just give it time. Once you know what you're doing it's quite easy.And if you have any specific questions, just ask here in the forum.Best, B. York FS2Crew Web Site / FS2Crew Facebook Page / FS2Crew Discord
March 10, 201214 yr Thanks Bryan,I already had printed out the flows, and will also print out anything else if it will help!I'll have a go at what you suggest.I think the problem is that some people are totally familiar with what is going on and how it all works, and others (me) are completely un-familiar with the way it is all integrated and it is like looking at a runic language with very little to help you transate it, but once the code is cracked it will all fit together seamlessly.I am at the early stage of trying to crack it but will persevere and let you know if I get no-where!Edit: The instruction to run the PF events is crucial, when it says it is not really required I gave it a miss but that is what makes things begin to happen.If you don't run the PF events, as is suggested as a possibility, how to you get things going? John
March 10, 201214 yr Thanks Bryan,I already had printed out the flows, and will also print out anything else if it will help!I'll have a go at what you suggest.I think the problem is that some people are totally familiar with what is going on and how it all works, and others (me) are completely un-familiar with the way it is all integrated and it is like looking at a runic language with very little to help you transate it, but once the code is cracked it will all fit together seamlessly.I am at the early stage of trying to crack it but will persevere and let you know if I get no-where!JohnTrust me, you'll look back at this and have a good laugh and wonder "well why didnt i just do that,..it isnt that hard" :( Damien WeekesCaptain 737NG / A319/20/21
March 10, 201214 yr Commercial Member Thanks Bryan,I already had printed out the flows, and will also print out anything else if it will help!I'll have a go at what you suggest.I think the problem is that some people are totally familiar with what is going on and how it all works, and others (me) are completely un-familiar with the way it is all integrated and it is like looking at a runic language with very little to help you transate it, but once the code is cracked it will all fit together seamlessly.I am at the early stage of trying to crack it but will persevere and let you know if I get no-where!Edit: The instruction to run the PF events is crucial, when it says it is not really required I gave it a miss but that is what makes things begin to happen.If you don't run the PF events, as is suggested as a possibility, how to you get things going?JohnHi John,Correct, running pre-flight events is to optional.Some people are pressed for time and they just want to take off and go.To do that, you would, for example.Load the NGX so the engines are running.Set up the aircraft as desired.Open the FS2Crew Main Panel.Use the arrows or the SK (Skip Button) to skip to "Takeoff" mode as display in the Main Panel.Then press the Main Button.The Capt will say "Takeoff", and, boom, you're set to go.Just hit the Main Button when desired.. you can see what comes next in the Main Panel.Such as Gear Up... Heading Select... etc.Best, B. York FS2Crew Web Site / FS2Crew Facebook Page / FS2Crew Discord
March 10, 201214 yr I am sure you are correct Damien, but I am still confused by the button usage, when to press which, some of the flows items on the print out do not match what is actually spoken and just general confusion.If it were possible an idiot's guide to step by step use of this particular Fs2Crew would be a real asset.As that awful host of Who wants to be a Millionaire says "the questions only seem easy if you know the answers", if you don't know the answers then they are impossible.I am kind of in the latter situation but I must congratulate Bryan on his program and ingenuity, great stuff and will be good value once I get the hang of it.Any problem is probably due to me and I just need a bit more assistance with what may seem basic to those familiar with this way of doing things, but I am not, so it is very difficult to get into. Hi John,Correct, running pre-flight events is to optional.Some people are pressed for time and they just want to take off and go.To do that, you would, for example.Load the NGX so the engines are running.Set up the aircraft as desired.Open the FS2Crew Main Panel.Use the arrows or the SK (Skip Button) to skip to "Takeoff" mode as display in the Main Panel.Then press the Main Button.The Capt will say "Takeoff", and, boom, you're set to go.Just hit the Main Button when desired.. you can see what comes next in the Main Panel.Such as Gear Up... Heading Select... etc.Best,Bryan,That is very helpful, but I could never have worked out that way of doing it on my own, hence you can see my problem!It is pretty obvious when it is explained to you, but without explanation one is lost, or I am at least.John
March 11, 201214 yr Bryan:I tend to agree with John on this, I am totally lost as to what I'm supposed to be doing. Have gone thru the online documentation but my first impression is that it is geared to customers who have been using previous FS2Crew versions. Maybe it's an oversight on your part and I truely want to help spread the word on what I'm sure is a fantastic program to enhance the PMDG 737NGX but as a novice I can't explain to anyone if this utility is good, bad or ugly. If you are hoping to attract new customers I think a short tutorial would be in order or maybe one of your more experienced users could possibly put a video together in YouTube to help out.In a nutshell, I bring up the main panel and select cfg,( BTW, using the button version ) followed by selecting "Run PF", and that's where the confusion comes in. The FO starts his flows, but what I am supposed to be doing during that time, should I be flipping switches or wait until he is done, and what buttons should I be pressing on the FS2Crew main panel....as a retired old fart I feel like an idiot with this program. Hope you can understand a newbe dilemma here, but if you can find in your heart to please put together a short tutorial to help some of us out it would be a feather in your cap.Bob DemarestBirmingham, Al. Bob Demarest Knoxville, Tennessee
March 11, 201214 yr Bryan:I tend to agree with John on this, I am totally lost as to what I'm supposed to be doing. Have gone thru the online documentation but my first impression is that it is geared to customers who have been using previous FS2Crew versions. Maybe it's an oversight on your part and I truely want to help spread the word on what I'm sure is a fantastic program to enhance the PMDG 737NGX but as a novice I can't explain to anyone if this utility is good, bad or ugly. If you are hoping to attract new customers I think a short tutorial would be in order or maybe one of your more experienced users could possibly put a video together in YouTube to help out.In a nutshell, I bring up the main panel and select cfg,( BTW, using the button version ) followed by selecting "Run PF", and that's where the confusion comes in. The FO starts his flows, but what I am supposed to be doing during that time, should I be flipping switches or wait until he is done, and what buttons should I be pressing on the FS2Crew main panel....as a retired old fart I feel like an idiot with this program. Hope you can understand a newbe dilemma here, but if you can find in your heart to please put together a short tutorial to help some of us out it would be a feather in your cap.Bob DemarestBirmingham, Al.Hi Bob,In the manual there's an entire section under flows that outline everything you're supposed to do step by step after clicking the RUN PF" button. There's even one detailing everything the F/O does.Check the flows section and it'll tell you everything you should be doing after clicking "RUN PF" Damien WeekesCaptain 737NG / A319/20/21
March 11, 201214 yr Hi Bryan:Thanks for the quick response. I have printed out the flows for both Captain and First Officer and as mentioned earlier have pressed the "Run PF" on the cfg panel. I can switch around the aircraft panels to watch the First Officer doing his thing but should I be doing the Captains flows at the same time or should I be waiting until some specific event before I start my flows.ThanksBob DemarestBirmingham, Al. Bob Demarest Knoxville, Tennessee
March 11, 201214 yr Hi Bryan:Thanks for the quick response. I have printed out the flows for both Captain and First Officer and as mentioned earlier have pressed the "Run PF" on the cfg panel. I can switch around the aircraft panels to watch the First Officer doing his thing but should I be doing the Captains flows at the same time or should I be waiting until some specific event before I start my flows.ThanksBob DemarestBirmingham, Al.You should be doing your flows at the same time, wait until the F/O starts the APU first though, you're the captain !! the captain's flows are all yours Damien WeekesCaptain 737NG / A319/20/21
March 13, 201214 yr Bryan:I tend to agree with John on this, I am totally lost as to what I'm supposed to be doing. Have gone thru the online documentation but my first impression is that it is geared to customers who have been using previous FS2Crew versions. Maybe it's an oversight on your part and I truely want to help spread the word on what I'm sure is a fantastic program to enhance the PMDG 737NGX but as a novice I can't explain to anyone if this utility is good, bad or ugly. If you are hoping to attract new customers I think a short tutorial would be in order or maybe one of your more experienced users could possibly put a video together in YouTube to help out.In a nutshell, I bring up the main panel and select cfg,( BTW, using the button version ) followed by selecting "Run PF", and that's where the confusion comes in. The FO starts his flows, but what I am supposed to be doing during that time, should I be flipping switches or wait until he is done, and what buttons should I be pressing on the FS2Crew main panel....as a retired old fart I feel like an idiot with this program. Hope you can understand a newbe dilemma here, but if you can find in your heart to please put together a short tutorial to help some of us out it would be a feather in your cap.Bob DemarestBirmingham, Al.Bob, I can't stop laughing :( but I feel the same way. I have been flying NGX for a long time and know the flows but now with this FO I am just screwed. I am on the same page with you. Little tutorial would be handy, at list it will put us on the right track.Thanks. I9-13900K | ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming LGA 1700 | MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 24GB | CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE LCD Liquid Cooler | CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM 64GB (2X36) 5200MHx DDR5 | Thermaltake GF3 1650W 80+ Gold PSU | Samsung QN90C Neo QLED TV 50”
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