So if I am looking at the map (navigation icons on) and I want to land at Hilo (for example). The ILS says ILS/DME 26 (ITO) 110.7 MHZ 260 Degrees. How do I dial this into the RAV or Maule.You all are really helping and I appreciate that.

Simply put: turn the nav radio to 110.7 (the top right one) and click on the switch button: the frequency will move to the left window and will now be the active one. The VOR 1 gauge (the top right one) will become active if you are close enough. Fly to the east of the airport and then turn into the heading of the airport. If the CDI (the white needle) is to the left, fly to the left; if it is to the right, fly to the right.Again, this is a basic instruction. How far you need to turn left or right depends on your distance of the airport...All ILS's are functional in MS Flight and so are all VORs! I am having a blast this week flying from VOR to VOR, intercepting radials and intersections and flying real world approaches, which can be done exactly as in real life with MS Flight.EDITHere is a very quick picture to make it a bit more clear:P.S. For ILS you will have to use VOR 1 because (in the RV6) only that one has a glide slope needle. For normal VOR use you can use both or one of both, whatever you want.

That was awesome! Next will try VOR2. Just getting a flawless landing at Hilo flying in the dark with clouds is a big step. Thanks Jeroen and others!

Hey Jeroen,In your example above - in the picture - the cdi white needle- hope I am saying this correctly - when it is " slanted"as shown in the picture, does that mean anything? Is the goal to fly a certain direction to where than needle is straight up and down?Thanks,

Yes, that sure does say something! When you set the desired radial or course on the VOR gauge using the OBS knob and you fly with a heading that's in that same direction, the needle shows you where(in relation to the set course or radial) you are and where need to go. So when the needle is right you are at the left of the course you set using the OBS and you should fly in the direction of the needle. What you do or need to do also depends on what the TO FROM indicator shows you: And when I say 'fly right' I don't mean you have to pull the aileron to the right and keep it there because then you will be flying circles You should turn right a little until after some time the needle starts to move. However, if and when the needles starts moving and where you are actually heading depends on your position in relation to the VOR or ILS... So er... read all about it here: http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/basic-nav-general.htm

I rather prefer the instrument setup in the Maule for ILS, but that's just because I prefer the offset-line-style VOR gauge to the swinging-needle-style.

This is the first time I have ever used a flight sim. Also I am not a pilot. I think the game has done a great job of "training" how to fly but then it just throws you into ILS without much explanation on the gauges. I flew around for 30 minutes and was not able to find Maui in fog. Did I miss a step somewhere? Is there a basic explanation on the gauges? I have done several google searches but none are in a term for someone who has never used ILS.

They really should have put a nice tutorial in about all gauges really. I was in the same 'plane' as you - I had no idea how to ILS or what gauge was what. So I landed both ILS challenges VFR.... and got silver on the first ILS and gold on the second ILS the first try. Just to toot my own horn lol. It was INTENSE landing VFR in those missions. On the last one all I could see was a small light in the fog, so I flew towards that. Turned out I almost smacked into the control tower!I used some awesome youtube videos that showed me how to get it done.

So when the needle is right you are at the left of the course you set using the OBS and you should fly in the direction of the needle.

Hey Jeroen,Not sure you totally understood my question. Yes I understand when that cdi needle is to the right, then I need to move my plane's direction more to the right to get that needle centered so I am on the right path to the runway...My question was more about the " angle " of that vertical needle being displayed, ie in your picture the angle of the needle is not straight up and down, it is slanted - if you look at the top of that needle, it is pointed a little somewhat westward, whereas the bottom of that needle, is pointed more somewhat eastward.I noticed this on my cdi when I did that ILS landing challenge in the RV6 as well.My question is - does that tell us anything specifically - ie for instance, should the goal be to not only get that needle centered in the display, but also sraight up and down vertically? Or once it is centered in display then it will in fact be straight up and down vertically?I hope you can understand what I am trying to ask, and may be a really dumb quesion... I am curious if by it being slanted like that, is that telling me something that I need to understand- other than, my correct flight path I should be on is toward my right? Or is it just natural it would be slanted like that when it is not centered?Thanks again - this thread is great for this topic. Using the ILS system combined with auotpilot in FSX has spoiled me and made me somewhat lazy!

Hey Jeroen,Not sure you totally understood my question. Yes I understand when that cdi needle is to the right, then I need to move my plane's direction more to the right to get that needle centered so I am on the right path to the runway...My question was more about the " angle " of that vertical needle being displayed, ie in your picture the angle of the needle is not straight up and down, it is slanted - if you look at the top of that needle, it is pointed a little somewhat westward, whereas the bottom of that needle, is pointed more somewhat eastward.I noticed this on my cdi when I did that ILS landing challenge in the RV6 as well.My question is - does that tell us anything specifically - ie for instance, should the goal be to not only get that needle centered in the display, but also sraight up and down vertically? Or once it is centered in display then it will in fact be straight up and down vertically?I hope you can understand what I am trying to ask, and may be a really dumb quesion... I am curious if by it being slanted like that, is that telling me something that I need to understand- other than, my correct flight path I should be on is toward my right? Or is it just natural it would be slanted like that when it is not centered?Thanks again - this thread is great for this topic. Using the ILS system combined with auotpilot in FSX has spoiled me and made me somewhat lazy!

First of all, I thought I was replying to a post of AZsoccer, haha, and I only see just now that it was you who asked this... My bad. If I had knows I wouldn't have posted all that basic stuff again... :wink:But er... I don't really know what you mean, haha... I think it's about the VOR 1 needle behaving different then the VOR 2 needle...? It's what AzureWX posted: "offset-line-style VOR gauge to the swinging-needle-style". You have to kinds of needles, the VOR 1 gauge in the RV6 has a CDI that swing from the top, so the top is fixed and the bottom swings left and right, and the VOR 2 gauge in the RV6one has a CDI that moves left and right completely. But they should be read in the same way. (BTW The top of the VOR 1 CDI is actually right underneath that little yellow triangle: the top of the needle itself is painted black so it seems the 'white top' also swings a bit but it doesn't. If you know what I mean... )The angle of the needle (VOR 1) or how far the needle is deflected (VOR 2) does tell you something, though: as you can see there are dots in the middle of the gauges, in a horizontal line. Each dot stands for 2 degrees, so if the needle is above a dot you can see how far out you are and when the needle is fully deflected you know you are more then 10 degrees of course.

The angle of the needle (VOR 1) or how far the needle is deflected (VOR 2) does tell you something, though: as you can see there are dots in the middle of the gauges, in a horizontal line. Each dot stands for 2 degrees, so if the needle is above a dot you can see how far out you are and when the needle is fully deflected you know you are more then 10 degrees of course.

I think that helps me understand better now, thanks!

How do you set "navigation icons on" on MAP? I can't find anything on this in the handbook.Brian

Click on Free Flight on the map, then click on Legend. There's a check box above the nav icon section. Check that and they're shown on the map.Hook

Check that and they're shown on the map.

You may finfd that you need to zoom in a bit to see them after following these instructions.

Hey Guys,I did finally see the elusive checkbox.ThanksBrian

After reading this thread, I am still a bit confused on VOR2 needle. If its either far left or right, does that mean I need to turn towards it (similar to VOR1needle) or do I need to do something different. I understand, for the most part, how the VOR1 needle works and using VOR and ILS but I am still confused about the VOR2 needle. How does the Nav2 radios come into play? When I tried the rv landing challenge 5, i just strictly use the VOR1 and nav1. (it also helped another flyer was about to take off on that particular runway) I am an enthusiast like AZsoccer but no real flight time or anything and would love to learn much more.

After reading this thread, I am still a bit confused on VOR2 needle. If its either far left or right, does that mean I need to turn towards it (similar to VOR1needle) or do I need to do something different. I understand, for the most part, how the VOR1 needle works and using VOR and ILS but I am still confused about the VOR2 needle. How does the Nav2 radios come into play? When I tried the rv landing challenge 5, i just strictly use the VOR1 and nav1. (it also helped another flyer was about to take off on that particular runway) I am an enthusiast like AZsoccer but no real flight time or anything and would love to learn much more.

 

VOR 2 is simply an extra VOR you can use. The differences between the two VOR-gauges in the RV-6A is the different kind of CDI (VOR 1 has a swinging-from-the-top needle and VOR 1 had a needle that goes left and right entirely). If you like a specific kind of needle more, just use that one. When it comes to navigation with VOR it doesn't matter at ALL if you use VOR1 or VOR2. You can choose either or use both at the same time. A lot of planes only have one VOR: it's just handy to have two!

 

There is ONE other difference between the VOR1 and VOR2 in the RV-6A: the VOR1 gauge also has a glideslope indicator. So when you want to land using an ILS you should use the VOR1 gauge.